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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:46:00 -
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Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:48:00 -
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Not as good as Amarr Logi. |
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LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:49:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:] u die under 2 sec with mili gear with aimbot doesnt matter lol |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:49:00 -
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Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro. |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
76
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:52:00 -
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I was able to get about 1100 ehp on my amlogi, but I would move about as fast as a heavy. |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:54:00 -
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logis need 1 less high and 1 less low
Then it needs a role bonus *a 3rd bonus* 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:56:00 -
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Another poster child for why logis need to be re-worked. |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:58:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Another poster child for why logis need to be re-worked.
Trust me, my cal logi will wreck any assault suit you have.
When Logis are better at assaulting, than Assaults? Trolololol GG CCP
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1998
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:59:00 -
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Slow as a heavy with no sidearm. It would not be that powerful, and it certainly wouldn't be overpowered. |
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Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
605
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Posted - 2013.09.04 19:59:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:] Better off with regulators. Why slow it down? |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:] Better off with regulators. Why slow it down?
Dat dual tank bra
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:03:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:logis need 1 less high and 1 less low
Then it needs a role bonus *a 3rd bonus* 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types.
I'll just leave this here ...
CCP Remnant wrote:A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3 |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:05:00 -
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Please leave logic and tangible proof away from the thread. Plzthnxk |
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:06:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:]
seems like a slow logy with no equipment and regen. |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:07:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Slow as a heavy with no sidearm. It would not be that powerful, and it certainly wouldn't be overpowered. Um... there is a reason heavy suits get no equipment slots... |
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LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:07:00 -
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From what I have seen Gallente or Amarr logistics are better. Gallente gets 750+ armor add to that 300~ shields |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:08:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:logis need 1 less high and 1 less low
Then it needs a role bonus *a 3rd bonus* 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types.
I'll just leave this here ... CCP Remnant wrote:A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3
They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus.
Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? |
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:08:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:] seems like a slow logy with no equipment and regen.
It is an assault trapped in a logis body.
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:09:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:I was able to get about 1100 ehp on my amlogi, but I would move about as fast as a heavy.
Without a Forge Gun or HMG. Please, Logis of the world, dual tank. |
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IRON PATRIOT 1
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:13:00 -
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[quote=LCB Holdings]From what I have seen Gallente or Amarr logistics are better. Gallente gets 750+ armor add to that 300~ shields[/quote
Yes they are |
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Vin Mora
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:19:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:logis need 1 less high and 1 less low
Then it needs a role bonus *a 3rd bonus* 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types.
I'll just leave this here ... CCP Remnant wrote:A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3 Remnant was talking about giving a bonus to a specific piece of equipment.
What Needless means is like the (currently working) Galentee Logi bonus.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:27:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus.
Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? The point is if a suit it have extra equipment slots there should be a drawback or scouts and heavies should get +1 equipment slots since they are optional on logis right now... True they could probably just put the fitting requirements bonus across all logis ... but taking away a high and a low would be too much ... maybe taking away a low from the shield tanked suits so they can't fit cpu/pg mods and plates ... and a high from the armor tanks so they can't stack extenders ... that wouldn't be too bad ... but taking one of each from all of them would badly ruin them.
Better option would be JUST the equipment fitting bonus with a relavent reduction to cpu/pg so if you don't fit equipment you STILL can't dual tank full of proto plates and extenders with maybe a cpu or pg module to make it fit with a duvolle. You'd still only get proto of your main tank (armour or shield) coupled with maybe a couple enhanced and a basic of your alternate (shield or armour). |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.09.05 00:59:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus.
Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? The point is if a suit it have extra equipment slots there should be a drawback or scouts and heavies should get +1 equipment slots since they are optional on logis right now... True they could probably just put the fitting requirements bonus across all logis ... but taking away a high and a low would be too much ... maybe taking away a low from the shield tanked suits so they can't fit cpu/pg mods and plates ... and a high from the armor tanks so they can't stack extenders ... that wouldn't be too bad ... but taking one of each from all of them would badly ruin them. Better option would be JUST the equipment fitting bonus with a relavent reduction to cpu/pg so if you don't fit equipment you STILL can't dual tank full of proto plates and extenders with maybe a cpu or pg module to make it fit with a duvolle. You'd still only get proto of your main tank (armour or shield) coupled with maybe a couple enhanced and a basic of your alternate (shield or armour).
I say we agree they need just ONE less high or low slot but a 3rd bonus ? and maybe less pg/cpu but I don't want to take the normal CCP approach. I lke changing 1 or 2 things and seeing how it goes before nerfing logi cpu and pg.
They have so many slots...
Th e scout proto gets no equipment and only 5 slots... |
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:03:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro.
You do with 5 Complex shield extenders and your shield skills maxed out. |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:25:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro. You do with 5 Complex shield extenders and your shield skills maxed out. I believe he's referring to an earlier comment about Amarr logis |
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:48:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:I say we agree they need just ONE less high or low slot but a 3rd bonus ? and maybe less pg/cpu but I don't want to take the normal CCP approach. I lke changing 1 or 2 things and seeing how it goes before nerfing logi cpu and pg.
They have so many slots...
Th e scout proto gets no equipment and only 5 slots... The reduced fitting costs for equipment and the reduced cpu/pg go hand in hand ... for 3 racials anyway, it's already factored into the Gallente Logi ... otherwise you're just giving us more cpu/pg to fit highs n lows with, it'd need rebalancing if we got reduced fitting costs for equipment.
I didnt really mean three bonuses, but it'd be nice to keep the armour repair as well as getting effects on equipment aswell like repair tool range or hive nanite quantities etc. but that might just be me being greedy ![Pirate](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_pirate.png)
However if they're now less assault fit-able I don't really see the problem giving them soom good benefits to being logis. |
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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.05 12:49:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle.
Dual tank ftw or wtf.
>:]
Both in current state of rifle weaponry, ftw, when ttk is returned tk values similar to 1.3 wtf? |
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Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:31:00 -
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Slayer logis will spend more fitting to get the same tank, speed, and regen as an assault. Also 3/4 have no sidearm. |
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Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:35:00 -
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So... A logi that can't logi has a brick tank?
I'm not seeing the point here. |
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calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.05 13:53:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro.
I have 575/624 plus duvolle if you wish to go that way. That is 5 complex shield extenders with 1 complex armor and 3 advance armor. You are slow as a heavy but in theory it could be a better build than a heavy. |
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