DUST Search - Cal Logi 588 Shields & 436 Armor

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

crazy space 1 wrote:

They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus.

Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? The point is if a suit it have extra equipment slots there should be a drawback or scouts and heavies should get +1 equipment slots since they are optional on logis right now...

True they could probably just put the fitting requirements bonus across all logis ... but taking away a high and a low would be too much ... maybe taking away a low from the shield tanked suits so they can't fit cpu/pg mods and plates ... and a high from the armor tanks so they can't stack extenders ... that wouldn't be too bad ... but taking one of each from all of them would badly ruin them.

Better option would be JUST the equipment fitting bonus with a relavent reduction to cpu/pg so if you don't fit equipment you STILL can't dual tank full of proto plates and extenders with maybe a cpu or pg module to make it fit with a duvolle. You'd still only get proto of your main tank (armour or shield) coupled with maybe a couple enhanced and a basic of your alternate (shield or armour).

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Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:46:00 - [1] - Quote Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:]
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 223	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:48:00 - [2] - Quote Not as good as Amarr Logi.
LoveNewlooy Black Phoenix Mercenaries 72	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:49:00 - [3] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] u die under 2 sec with mili gear with aimbot doesnt matter lol
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:49:00 - [4] - Quote Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 76	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:52:00 - [5] - Quote I was able to get about 1100 ehp on my amlogi, but I would move about as fast as a heavy.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1630	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:54:00 - [6] - Quote logis need 1 less high and 1 less low Then it needs a role bonus a 3rd bonus 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 335	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:56:00 - [7] - Quote Another poster child for why logis need to be re-worked.
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:58:00 - [8] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Another poster child for why logis need to be re-worked. Trust me, my cal logi will wreck any assault suit you have. When Logis are better at assaulting, than Assaults? Trolololol GG CCP
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1998	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:59:00 - [9] - Quote Slow as a heavy with no sidearm. It would not be that powerful, and it certainly wouldn't be overpowered.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 605	Posted - 2013.09.04 19:59:00 - [10] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] Better off with regulators. Why slow it down?

Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:01:00 - [11] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] Better off with regulators. Why slow it down? Dat dual tank bra
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 405	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:03:00 - [12] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: logis need 1 less high and 1 less low Then it needs a role bonus a 3rd bonus 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types. I'll just leave this here ... CCP Remnant wrote: A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:05:00 - [13] - Quote Please leave logic and tangible proof away from the thread. Plzthnxk
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 131	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:06:00 - [14] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] seems like a slow logy with no equipment and regen.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1631	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:07:00 - [15] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Slow as a heavy with no sidearm. It would not be that powerful, and it certainly wouldn't be overpowered. Um... there is a reason heavy suits get no equipment slots...
LCB Holdings Expert Intervention Caldari State 15	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:07:00 - [16] - Quote From what I have seen Gallente or Amarr logistics are better. Gallente gets 750+ armor add to that 300~ shields
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1631	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:08:00 - [17] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: logis need 1 less high and 1 less low Then it needs a role bonus a 3rd bonus 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types. I'll just leave this here ... CCP Remnant wrote: A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3 They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus. Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not?
Kira Lannister Ancient Exiles 1137	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:08:00 - [18] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] seems like a slow logy with no equipment and regen. It is an assault trapped in a logis body.
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 566	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:09:00 - [19] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: I was able to get about 1100 ehp on my amlogi, but I would move about as fast as a heavy. Without a Forge Gun or HMG. Please, Logis of the world, dual tank.
IRON PATRIOT 1 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 41	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:13:00 - [20] - Quote [quote=LCB Holdings]From what I have seen Gallente or Amarr logistics are better. Gallente gets 750+ armor add to that 300~ shields[/quote Yes they are

Vin Mora Sanguis Defense Syndicate 115	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:19:00 - [21] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: logis need 1 less high and 1 less low Then it needs a role bonus a 3rd bonus 50% less pg and cpu when fitting equipment of all types. I'll just leave this here ... CCP Remnant wrote: A technical issue is currently preventing us from authoring suit bonuses that alter equipment functionality. When this is solved weGÇÖll be giving Logistics suits the bonuses they need to make their role truly shine. Bonuses to the range and effectiveness of repair tools; to nanohive capacity and resupply rate and the like. These are the sorts of things that will make logistics players the invaluable squad support they ought to be. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/logistics-dropsuit-changes-in-uprising-1.3 Remnant was talking about giving a bonus to a specific piece of equipment. What Needless means is like the (currently working) Galentee Logi bonus.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 406	Posted - 2013.09.04 20:27:00 - [22] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus. Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? The point is if a suit it have extra equipment slots there should be a drawback or scouts and heavies should get +1 equipment slots since they are optional on logis right now... True they could probably just put the fitting requirements bonus across all logis ... but taking away a high and a low would be too much ... maybe taking away a low from the shield tanked suits so they can't fit cpu/pg mods and plates ... and a high from the armor tanks so they can't stack extenders ... that wouldn't be too bad ... but taking one of each from all of them would badly ruin them. Better option would be JUST the equipment fitting bonus with a relavent reduction to cpu/pg so if you don't fit equipment you STILL can't dual tank full of proto plates and extenders with maybe a cpu or pg module to make it fit with a duvolle. You'd still only get proto of your main tank (armour or shield) coupled with maybe a couple enhanced and a basic of your alternate (shield or armour).
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1664	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:59:00 - [23] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: They need one of those bonuses IN ADDITION to the fitting bonus. Also they can allready give them the fitting bonus the gallenete logi gets a fitting bonus does it not? The point is if a suit it have extra equipment slots there should be a drawback or scouts and heavies should get +1 equipment slots since they are optional on logis right now... True they could probably just put the fitting requirements bonus across all logis ... but taking away a high and a low would be too much ... maybe taking away a low from the shield tanked suits so they can't fit cpu/pg mods and plates ... and a high from the armor tanks so they can't stack extenders ... that wouldn't be too bad ... but taking one of each from all of them would badly ruin them. Better option would be JUST the equipment fitting bonus with a relavent reduction to cpu/pg so if you don't fit equipment you STILL can't dual tank full of proto plates and extenders with maybe a cpu or pg module to make it fit with a duvolle. You'd still only get proto of your main tank (armour or shield) coupled with maybe a couple enhanced and a basic of your alternate (shield or armour). I say we agree they need just ONE less high or low slot but a 3rd bonus ? and maybe less pg/cpu but I don't want to take the normal CCP approach. I lke changing 1 or 2 things and seeing how it goes before nerfing logi cpu and pg. They have so many slots... Th e scout proto gets no equipment and only 5 slots...
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 461	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:03:00 - [24] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro. You do with 5 Complex shield extenders and your shield skills maxed out.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1137	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:25:00 - [25] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Kira Lannister wrote: Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro. You do with 5 Complex shield extenders and your shield skills maxed out. I believe he's referring to an earlier comment about Amarr logis
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 416	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:48:00 - [26] - Quote crazy space 1 wrote: I say we agree they need just ONE less high or low slot but a 3rd bonus ? and maybe less pg/cpu but I don't want to take the normal CCP approach. I lke changing 1 or 2 things and seeing how it goes before nerfing logi cpu and pg. They have so many slots... Th e scout proto gets no equipment and only 5 slots... The reduced fitting costs for equipment and the reduced cpu/pg go hand in hand ... for 3 racials anyway, it's already factored into the Gallente Logi ... otherwise you're just giving us more cpu/pg to fit highs n lows with, it'd need rebalancing if we got reduced fitting costs for equipment. I didnt really mean three bonuses, but it'd be nice to keep the armour repair as well as getting effects on equipment aswell like repair tool range or hive nanite quantities etc. but that might just be me being greedy However if they're now less assault fit-able I don't really see the problem giving them soom good benefits to being logis.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 180	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:49:00 - [27] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] Both in current state of rifle weaponry, ftw, when ttk is returned tk values similar to 1.3 wtf?
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1420	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:31:00 - [28] - Quote Slayer logis will spend more fitting to get the same tank, speed, and regen as an assault. Also 3/4 have no sidearm.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3155	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:35:00 - [29] - Quote So... A logi that can't logi has a brick tank? I'm not seeing the point here.
calvin b Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 482	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:53:00 - [30] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Lol I have one but you ain't getting no 588 shields bro. I have 575/624 plus duvolle if you wish to go that way. That is 5 complex shield extenders with 1 complex armor and 3 advance armor. You are slow as a heavy but in theory it could be a better build than a heavy.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3683	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:40:00 - [31] - Quote I can see two options: 1. Don't let logis do everything else as well as Logi-ing. -No change to slots. -Reduce PG and CPU significantly. -Make the Logi suit bonus a massive reduction to the PG/CPU costs of all equipment. This results in Logis who can EITHER fit a decent tank and be a sort-of Assault suit but not quite there on speed and HP, or only marginally less powerful suits with a full complement of equipment. 2. Don't force players to compromise by under-utilising slots or fitting below their tier -Remove a slot or two from each Logi suit. -Reduce PG and CPU by an appropriate amount depending on the slot(s) removed. This results in easier suits to fit, but forces the Logi suit into a Logi role, instead of allowing it to be more flexible.
RedZer0 MK1 Opus Arcana 36	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:09:00 - [32] - Quote I made the same suggestion about the Logi role bonus a couple months ago. Reduction in CPU/pg just makes sense https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1126240#post1126240
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 49	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:15:00 - [33] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: Slayer logis will spend more fitting to get the same tank, speed, and regen as an assault. Also 3/4 have no sidearm. Really but logi are better assualts they say
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 226	Posted - 2013.09.06 02:35:00 - [34] - Quote Tek Hound wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Slayer logis will spend more fitting to get the same tank, speed, and regen as an assault. Also 3/4 have no sidearm. Really but logi are better assualts they say Almost as good as the Assault Class.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1706	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:09:00 - [35] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: crazy space 1 wrote: I say we agree they need just ONE less high or low slot but a 3rd bonus ? and maybe less pg/cpu but I don't want to take the normal CCP approach. I lke changing 1 or 2 things and seeing how it goes before nerfing logi cpu and pg. They have so many slots... Th e scout proto gets no equipment and only 5 slots... The reduced fitting costs for equipment and the reduced cpu/pg go hand in hand ... for 3 racials anyway, it's already factored into the Gallente Logi ... otherwise you're just giving us more cpu/pg to fit highs n lows with, it'd need rebalancing if we got reduced fitting costs for equipment. I didnt really mean three bonuses, but it'd be nice to keep the armour repair as well as getting effects on equipment aswell like repair tool range or hive nanite quantities etc. but that might just be me being greedy However if they're now less assault fit-able I don't really see the problem giving them soom good benefits to being logis. yeah the gallente one would lose it's current fitting bonus and get something useful
Cosgar ParagonX 4786	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:12:00 - [36] - Quote Does this matter when everyone can die in 3 seconds thanks to aim assist and no strafing?
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1223	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:17:00 - [37] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Was messing around on my alt, all my skills aren't even up, and I got my Cal Logi to 588 Shields & 436 Armor with a duvolle. Dual tank ftw or wtf. >:] Not a practical suit in the least. Any nades, equipment, and what is the movement/sprint speed?


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