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DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:

ratamaq doc wrote:

DISGRUNTLEDev wrote:

It doesn't matter XiBravo, they're precentages.
Bonus of 25% and 10%

45 with 10% reduction is 40.5
Add 25% reduction now 30.375

45 with 25% reduction is 33.75
Add 10% reduction now 30.375

I haven't tested profile damping, but with hack speed the first module is applied to base regardless of skill. So it would be 35% off with the skill and the first module. The second module would reduce from the remainder.

I have all the math and video proof in a /r/dust514 thread.

If it is not suppose to work this way, then hacking is broken.

I don't think this is the way it works with dampeners. If that was true, with full skills (two of them) and a basic dampener, it would be a 50% reduction putting a scouts at 22.5. Would be awesome. Would someone be willing to test this tonight(Edit: around 0200-0300 dust time)? I can set up multiple suits to try it out. I need someone with proto scanners.

Is it the first module equipped, or the top one? Which gets the bonus.

It would be great news if this was the case, it would mean that Minmatars can hide from all scanners if they build for it.


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ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 49	Posted - 2013.09.05 18:24:00 - [1] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: It doesn't matter XiBravo, they're precentages. Bonus of 25% and 10% 45 with 10% reduction is 40.5 Add 25% reduction now 30.375 45 with 25% reduction is 33.75 Add 10% reduction now 30.375 I haven't tested profile damping, but with hack speed the first module is applied to base regardless of skill. So it would be 35% off with the skill and the first module. The second module would reduce from the remainder. I have all the math and video proof in a /r/dust514 thread. If it is not suppose to work this way, then hacking is broken.
ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:06:00 - [2] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: It doesn't matter XiBravo, they're precentages. Bonus of 25% and 10% 45 with 10% reduction is 40.5 Add 25% reduction now 30.375 45 with 25% reduction is 33.75 Add 10% reduction now 30.375 I haven't tested profile damping, but with hack speed the first module is applied to base regardless of skill. So it would be 35% off with the skill and the first module. The second module would reduce from the remainder. I have all the math and video proof in a /r/dust514 thread. If it is not suppose to work this way, then hacking is broken. I don't think this is the way it works with dampeners. If that was true, with full skills (two of them) and a basic dampener, it would be a 50% reduction putting a scouts at 22.5. Would be awesome. Would someone be willing to test this tonight(Edit: around 0200-0300 dust time)? I can set up multiple suits to try it out. I need someone with proto scanners. Is it the first module equipped, or the top one? Which gets the bonus. It would be great news if this was the case, it would mean that Minmatars can hide from all scanners if they build for it. The higher effect module gets more of the bonus so to speak. So if you equip a complex and a basic, the complex would get 25% off 45db, where the basic would get 86% of 15% off the remainder of the initial 25% off 45db. If it works like system hacking, it would sum the skills and the first module. So 25% + 10% + 25% = 60% off 45db for first module. Bringing down to 18db. Then if basic equipted also would be 86% of 15% (13%) off 18db bringing it down to 15.6db.
ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:28:00 - [3] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: That math gets ridiculous rather quickly then. I was just taking the percentage off the remainder, as I show in previous posts. The real takeaway should be this. A proto scout can naturally evade adv scanners. 25% off 45 is 33.75 (below 36db adv scanner) 25% + 2% + 10% is all that is needed to evade all but 1 proto scanner. There is no way to get below 28db with skills alone, so to evade, you must equip a damper. So unless you are looking to evade the proto focused, there is no benefit to skill past profile dampening 1 if you are a proto scout. Only benefit to skilling up profile dampening would be to evade other suites passive scans.