DUST Search - [Feedback] Aim Assist is Too Strong

Jathniel wrote:

I'll be Devil's Advocate here.

The aim assist is decent. This does in fact, help players that don't aim that well.
Which is good.
Aiming in DUST made you VERY sharp. I know I'm not the only one that developed aim in Dust, and then proceeded to go to games like BF3 and absolutely **** face.

At the same time, the aim assist puts everyone on POTENTIALLY equal-footing. So using cover, and being smart on ground movements is actually vital now.

1.3 and before a couple of ace players could just walk side-by-side in the open, and just kill every noob in their path, now those noobs are able to kill them.

By helping everyone's aim, the matches have been more fun.
You guys have GOT to admit that much. Getting a team of blueberries, that can actually hold their own, Aim Assist or not... Every match I have done in 1.4 so far, has been amazingly fun, and my faith in this game has been just that much more restored.

So much so, that I am now an EVE player as well.
At the time of this writing, I am using EVE's ingame browser on one monitor, and playing DUST on the other....

1.4 was a success, barring some bothersome bugs like not being able to deploy your full squad... and that will be fixed in a few days tops.


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Pseudonym2 The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 10	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:02:00 - [1] - Quote So many things I'd like to reply to.. If you aren't noticing a significant difference with aim assist chances are you were a fairly dead shot before, try grabbing some militia gear and intentionally try to miss a bit with your aim, bet you still get hit markers. I usually use KB/M and I was getting hits on folks in the air that wasn't remotely close to a hit with a controller. My aim with KB/M is actually worse now with the new patch, can't hit a damn thing with the AR, my Scrambler Pistol does nothing, even when I get hit markers, and the shotgun hit detection is still bugged (turn off aim assist and you'll realize the most reliable method is to aim with the right side of the reticle rather than the centre) I would at least request that if everyone else is getting 100% hit accuracy when they're off target, I might at least get 100% hit accuracy when I'm on target. As for the gent that said virtually everything except SMG and sniper were OP, I'm going to take it you run sniper rifle and SMG. But it's an impartial opinion right? All I know is I'm getting torn down in fractions of a second by militia AR's, and I can't kill a light suit at point blank with my shotty because it won't register the hits. Fault me if you like, just try it without assist before you point fingers.
Pseudonym2 The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 11	Posted - 2013.09.05 02:47:00 - [2] - Quote Anectodal evidence isn't worth anything? You've got the majority of the players telling you that they can't run across a road at 100m withouth being insta-killed, but you want a video? I've replaced all my slots with damage and biotics because the only difference health makes is between dying in 0.5 seconds and dying in 0.3 seconds at full sprint, but ya, I'm crying wolf.
Pseudonym2 The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 11	Posted - 2013.09.05 03:33:00 - [3] - Quote Jathniel wrote: I'll be Devil's Advocate here. The aim assist is decent. This does in fact, help players that don't aim that well. Which is good. Aiming in DUST made you VERY sharp. I know I'm not the only one that developed aim in Dust, and then proceeded to go to games like BF3 and absolutely **** face. At the same time, the aim assist puts everyone on POTENTIALLY equal-footing. So using cover, and being smart on ground movements is actually vital now. 1.3 and before a couple of ace players could just walk side-by-side in the open, and just kill every noob in their path, now those noobs are able to kill them. By helping everyone's aim, the matches have been more fun. You guys have GOT to admit that much. Getting a team of blueberries, that can actually hold their own, Aim Assist or not... Every match I have done in 1.4 so far, has been amazingly fun, and my faith in this game has been just that much more restored. So much so, that I am now an EVE player as well. At the time of this writing, I am using EVE's ingame browser on one monitor, and playing DUST on the other.... 1.4 was a success, barring some bothersome bugs like not being able to deploy your full squad... and that will be fixed in a few days tops. I'll counter you on this one, and I'll be decent about it since you have been. I fully realize that this allows new players to feel equally effective. On the other hand, you've always been able to be at least somewhat effective with full starter gear on assault, if you choose to make effective use of cover. Many people use this tactic to gain money. I'm sure this isn't news to you. I think the essential point is, you shouldn't be on equal footing with full proto players. That is the only impetus to skill up, and, to some extent, to play the game at all. The current build seems to suggest that, unless you stack them ridiculously, having higher end defense modules means nothing, because under probably half of situations, someone with aim assist will tear you down in less than 1/2 second. At this point, what are all those skill points into dropsuit upgrade skills worth? I'll leave the uselessness of the scan skills for another topic.
Pseudonym2 The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 19	Posted - 2013.09.11 17:22:00 - [4] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: I can't count the number of times I was able to avoid the new 1.4 assisted enemy fire simply by slipping behind the cover I am accustomed to using. It required more alertness and response, but I wasn't losing clones any more than previously. I can't count the number of times I was miraculously resussed at the last possible second by a random friendly because his buddies could now confidently give him covering fire long enough to nano-inject me while under a hailstorm of enemy rounds...(normally I would bleed out because friends dare not expose themselves trying to reach me). (I try to keep in mind, some of those friendlies may have been just 16 years old...so God Bless their heroism!!) I have to say, your ability to duck behind cover and then continue firing is most likely due to using a longer range weapon which doesn't require you to close ground on the enemy the same way in order to engage the enemy. There simply isn't such a thing as suppressive small arms fire when someone only needs to come into the open for a fraction of a second in order to get a kill. Also, the logi's that you were playing with must have been either new or suicidal. Myself, I've been running one since open beta and was always one of the risk takers. Now the only reason I'll run across open ground with ARs and ScrRs downfield is because there's a tank behind me. Someone can hit the call for help button all they want. I was ready to take fire to bring people up before, but I'm not going to run out into an open space where I'm virtually guaranteed to get cut down half way across only to find that if I do make it there the enemy has shot your body. Trust me, you'll see most people gravitating away from logi work in the next short while, there's simply no benefit associated with the risk anymore. I'll run reps and needles if I'm squadded with my corp, but if you see me in a random pub, don't expect much more than hives and uplinks out of me.