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          Israckcatarac 
          Opus Arcana
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:02:00 -
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          Small suggestion something like a 5 min wait after a vehicle recall, and 2,5 min wait after a vehivle destroy. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:03:00 -
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          only if the same timer is applied to infantry at a supply depot.
  I fuc.king HATE double standards in this game.
  What you people dont seem to realize is tanks arent some auxilliary thing we just pick up as we head into battle, its is OUR ROLE that we SPECCED INTO.
  how would you feel if all day tankers kept saying AV needed a 5 minute timer on being able to spawn in with forges and swarms? | 
      
      
      
          
          dustwaffle 
          Ill Omens
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:04:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:only if the same timer is applied to infantry at a supply depot.
  I fuc.king HATE double standards in this game.   Generally easier to come up with an 'idea' than it is to see things from multiple perspectives. What can you do /shrugs | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:07:00 -
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          another infantry scrub trying to have vehicles nerfed more pathetic its bad enough every vehicle in this game is a 1-4 shot kill but then people like you are on here asking for stupid things like this.
 
   and just fyi there is a call recall timer if you recall and then call then you are left standing their exposed for over a minute.
 
  before you go asking for a nerf for a spec that you are not 100% dedicated to maybe you should consider the exact same nerf applied to your suit?
 
  i run both proto av and have been running vehicles for over a year i have a right to ask for my gear to be nerfed you do not.
  people like you are the people who made ccp over nerf tanks in the first place statements like this are what led to vehicles being so ruined in dust so STFU and get good
 
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          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:09:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:only if the same timer is applied to infantry at a supply depot.
  I fuc.king HATE double standards in this game.
  What you people dont seem to realize is tanks arent some auxilliary thing we just pick up as we head into battle, its is OUR ROLE that we SPECCED INTO.
  how would you feel if all day tankers kept saying AV needed a 5 minute timer on being able to spawn in with forges and swarms?   i am always for my av being nerfed i miss my tanks sadly they are so underpowered because of scrubby statements like this guys thread | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:11:00 -
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          Israckcatarac wrote:Small suggestion something like a 5 min wait after a vehicle recall, and 2,5 min wait after a vehivle destroy.    average match = 8 minutes so your saying that you want me to call my **** fight for a few minutes recall and afk for the rest of the match?
 
  WHAT ABOUT TANKER's THAT ONLY HAVE A TANK HUH?  you do realize that they're are people with 100% of their sp into all vehicles i used to be one of them..your asking for ccp to nerf a class further into oblivion. you should think about what you are gunna say before you come on the forums and make statement's this stupid.
  +1 for scrubbiest statement i've seen this week congrats | 
      
      
      
          
          True Adamance 
          PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:11:00 -
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          Israckcatarac wrote:Small suggestion something like a 5 min wait after a vehicle recall, and 2,5 min wait after a vehivle destroy.   
  Why? I want to change tanks just as you want to change dropsuits. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:12:00 -
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          Mortedeamor wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:only if the same timer is applied to infantry at a supply depot.
  I fuc.king HATE double standards in this game.
  What you people dont seem to realize is tanks arent some auxilliary thing we just pick up as we head into battle, its is OUR ROLE that we SPECCED INTO.
  how would you feel if all day tankers kept saying AV needed a 5 minute timer on being able to spawn in with forges and swarms?  i am always for my av being nerfed i miss my tanks sadly they are so underpowered because of scrubby statements like this guys thread  
  the problem is noobs. everyone has an opinion.....a valid opinion......EXCEPT NOOBS | 
      
      
      
          
          Takahiro Kashuken 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:12:00 -
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          Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone? | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:15:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:only if the same timer is applied to infantry at a supply depot.
  I fuc.king HATE double standards in this game.
  What you people dont seem to realize is tanks arent some auxilliary thing we just pick up as we head into battle, its is OUR ROLE that we SPECCED INTO.
  how would you feel if all day tankers kept saying AV needed a 5 minute timer on being able to spawn in with forges and swarms?  i am always for my av being nerfed i miss my tanks sadly they are so underpowered because of scrubby statements like this guys thread  the problem is noobs. everyone has an opinion.....a valid opinion......EXCEPT NOOBS   i agree i think ccp should make it mandatory for someone to have dedicated over 30 day log ins and have achieved a standard sp lvl before they can post on forums.
 
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          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:16:00 -
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          Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  
  LOL QFT
  the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:16:00 -
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          you should def NOT be able to make a character play one day and hop on here and whine about things you dont understand. i can only hope ccp has learned enough not to take scrubs seriously | 
      
      
      
          
          DJINN leukoplast 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:17:00 -
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          Recall timer should be the same as the tank being dropped off by a RDV. 
  ie, have an RDV come and pick it up, and carry it off. This way the tanker has to choose whether the RDV pick-up area is safe from AV or not. 
 
 
 
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          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:18:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community   ROFLMAO no takahiro is like me someone who knows what they are talking about who doesn't like scrubs mucking things up lol ...ooo ccp while ur about nerfing the swarm very nice btw super effective vs scrubs while not really ruining anything for a fully skilled user like myself..you should apply a nerf with similar effect to my forge please | 
      
      
      
          
          Takahiro Kashuken 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:19:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  
  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:19:00 -
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          DJINN leukoplast wrote:Recall timer should be the same as the tank being dropped off by a RDV. 
  ie, have an RDV come and pick it up, and carry it off. This way the tanker has to choose whether the RDV pick-up area is safe from AV or not. 
 
 
 
    this is a good idea | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:19:00 -
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          DJINN leukoplast wrote:Recall timer should be the same as the tank being dropped off by a RDV. 
  ie, have an RDV come and pick it up, and carry it off. This way the tanker has to choose whether the RDV pick-up area is safe from AV or not. 
 
 
 
   
  edit: you know what.....i will retract this part of my post...
  anyway, leukoplast...
  infantry hotswap fits to resupply and heal in the HEAT OF BATTLE. i do it all the time. any competitive player does it all the time.
   double standards | 
      
      
      
          
          demonkiller 12 
          G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:21:00 -
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          I dont like how vehicles no longer take burn damage - its ******* stupid, if youre bad enough for your tank to light up like a christmas tree then it should take damage- and if you cant rep it, it SHOULD blow up it was bad enough before 1.4 where another tanker would try to fight me and then just run away to recall, now he doesnt even have to worry about his tank blowing up from passive damage
  people need to learn when to both engage and retreat from a fight | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:22:00 -
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          Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas    if this game is a balanced by infantry vet knowledge alone the you might as well just take all vehicles and av out of the game as they are not and will not be usefull on an equivalent scale to infantry. currently vehicles are only a giant isk loss no benefit by speccing into anything other than lavs. the vehicle av aspect of dust doesnt even touch the real battle anymore not like it used to..their was a time where if your side had ****** infantry but even 1 great tanker and 1 solid av support for said tank could rally scrubbs and win...hoepfully the day will come again | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:23:00 -
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          demonkiller 12 wrote:I dont like how vehicles no longer take burn damage - its ******* stupid, if youre bad enough for your tank to light up like a christmas tree then it should take damage- and if you cant rep it, it SHOULD blow up it was bad enough before 1.4 where another tanker would try to fight me and then just run away to recall, now he doesnt even have to worry about his tank blowing up from passive damage
  people need to learn when to both engage and retreat from a fight   i agree with burn dmg be put back in but only after there is a vehicle lock and caldri users can hop out to armr rep with a tool without bluebies stealing their isk investment..cant count how many times a scrub afking has stopped me from saving myself a vehicle loss. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:24:00 -
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          Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas   if this game is a balanced by infantry vet knowledge alone the you might as well just take all vehicles and av out of the game as they are not and will not be usefull on an equivalent scale to infantry. currently vehicles are only a giant isk loss no benefit by speccing into anything other than lavs. the vehicle av aspect of dust doesnt even touch the real battle anymore not like it used to..their was a time where if your side had ****** infantry but even 1 great tanker and 1 solid av support for said tank could rally scrubbs and win...hoepfully the day will come again  
  just a bunch of forum warriors who had to kill tanks out of game because they couldnt do it ingame.
 
  now we have turrets that cost 1 million isk, tanks that get popped in 3-4 shots by baseball nukes that cost 15k isk, and missiles that couldnt compare to militia grenades if they tried. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:26:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Recall timer should be the same as the tank being dropped off by a RDV. 
  ie, have an RDV come and pick it up, and carry it off. This way the tanker has to choose whether the RDV pick-up area is safe from AV or not. 
 
 
 
   edit: you know what.....i will retract this part of my post... anyway, leukoplast... infantry hotswap fits to resupply and heal in the HEAT OF BATTLE. i do it all the time. any competitive player does it all the time.  double standards   those double standard are very explainable the more expensive your gear the ****** ccp makes you game exp. for example most expensive things in dust tanks and durp ships all 1-4 shottable by 50 k and under av suits gen price range 600k-2.4 mill insta poppable by 40 k suit hmmm..is this balance no this is 40 k suits being buffed so they can solo fully specced vehicles (WHAT IS TO BLAME PEOPLE LIKE OP WITH STUPID IDEAS) | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:27:00 -
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          Lurchasaurus wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas   if this game is a balanced by infantry vet knowledge alone the you might as well just take all vehicles and av out of the game as they are not and will not be usefull on an equivalent scale to infantry. currently vehicles are only a giant isk loss no benefit by speccing into anything other than lavs. the vehicle av aspect of dust doesnt even touch the real battle anymore not like it used to..their was a time where if your side had ****** infantry but even 1 great tanker and 1 solid av support for said tank could rally scrubbs and win...hoepfully the day will come again  just a bunch of forum warriors who had to kill tanks out of game because they couldnt do it ingame. now we have turrets that cost 1 million isk, tanks that get popped in 3-4 shots by baseball nukes that cost 15k isk, and missiles that couldnt compare to militia grenades if they tried.   LOL MAYBE THEM no one can say such about me or any of the real av users as we are all asking for nerfs to av or at least buffs to vehicles only scrubs ask for vehicle nerfs...one day the balance will be returned | 
      
      
      
          
          True Adamance 
          PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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          Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas     I'm trying to bridge that gap if I can. About 11 Mill invested in Infantry and AV across 2 characters, and now I'm spending all of my time learning how to Tank, and with the 1,5 Million SP I do have right now I am able to compete with plenty of much more SP invested Tankers.
  But In all honesty Tanking is much more enjoyable.
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          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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          chromosome awwws our tanks are almost balanced but still not yet ccp
  uprising hmm well lets raise the price of all tanks...oh and lets cut their abilities by 50%.....
 
  hmm well maybe this guy is a secret genious and he has figured out how to get ccp to do the right thing by telling them to do the opposite as thats what they tend to do the exact opposite of whatever the community asks for. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mortedeamor 
          The Black Masquerade
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:31:00 -
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          True Adamance wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Another infantry player with a bad idea on how to balance something they never ******* use 
  Are you sure your not a IWS clone?  LOL QFT the problem is he is CPM and spouts his nonsense as if it was backed by the community  Problem is the community are mostly infantry tryhards and do back bad ******* ideas    I'm trying to bridge that gap if I can. About 11 Mill invested in Infantry and AV across 2 characters, and now I'm spending all of my time learning how to Tank, and with the 1,5 Million SP I do have right now I am able to compete with plenty of much more SP invested Tankers. But In all honesty Tanking is much more enjoyable.   tanking is more enjoyable because it is harder i regret grabbing both proto av prof V as it has made dust so boring i dont even wanna pull my av suits out... | 
      
      
      
          
          sammus420 
          Goonfeet Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:32:00 -
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          How about instead of a timer the RDV has to come down and pick up your tank when it's recalled, making it very vulnerable for a short period of time? Any thoughts? | 
      
      
      
          
          Israckcatarac 
          Opus Arcana
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          Mortedeamor wrote:another infantry scrub trying to have vehicles nerfed more pathetic its bad enough every vehicle in this game is a 1-4 shot kill but then people like you are on here asking for stupid things like this.
 
   and just fyi there is a call recall timer if you recall and then call then you are left standing their exposed for over a minute.
 
  before you go asking for a nerf for a spec that you are not 100% dedicated to maybe you should consider the exact same nerf applied to your suit?
 
  i run both proto av and have been running vehicles for over a year i have a right to ask for my gear to be nerfed you do not.
  people like you are the people who made ccp over nerf tanks in the first place statements like this are what led to vehicles being so ruined in dust so STFU and get good
 
   
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          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:38:00 -
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          sammus420 wrote:How about instead of a timer the RDV has to come down and pick up your tank when it's recalled, making it very vulnerable for a short period of time? Any thoughts?  
  realistically, when things are balanced, it SHOULD be this way.
  Practically, in this build, dropships cant even get off the ground in enough time because forges snipe from towers and ground spawns. You really think the AV that made the tank retreat in the first place wont just poop on the bolas as we wait for it to come pick up our tank?
  How about the fact that you can instaswap a fit on a supply depot without any kind of a timer or loading animation e.g. bolas to swap the suit? | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 10:40:00 -
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          why do people keep offering up nerfs on vehicles? are you THAT freaking bad? holy moley.
  why dont we try upping the cost of forges to 250k a gun. then you would STILL only be a fraction of the price. hmm? | 
      
      
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