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Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:00:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I have to disagree, although I concur that if you use the old tactics of rush in and bunny hop in circles around the enemies you'll probably find an early grave.
The game is changed. Gun-game is now more about positioning and tactics, using the tools available (active scanners, vehicles etc) and strategically taking objectives while having eyes and ears on all points in communication.
The game has been changed so that solo Rambos will find a quick trip into the spawn que instead of bouncing around and bunny hopping while somehow managing to avoid fire from up to 16 mercs at once.
Now is the time to use your mind. No longer is shutting off your brain and hopping around in a circle acceptable, now you must move with cover in mind, where are the enemies, where are your allies? Breaching the enemy line means something now where before you could just waltz right past them and take an objective.
Digging in and defensive tactics truly work now. Good squad commanders and team leaders will drastically alter the battlefield.
That's how I feel about it.
Not really.... You see a red thing anywhere its that video to a tee. RED THING?!?!?! LDS BOOM BOOM headshot headshot...... *ekekekekeke im the best evar!*
If the whole concept of building suits and tanks is purely a number to who's aim assist can get to the bottom of quickest.... Well the uniqueness of dust's gun game is gone, and the very identity of the gun game we have enjoyed from chromosome and hoped to return is officially dead.
And in that process CCP telling us all along on how it would return to how it was. |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:17:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I have to disagree, although I concur that if you use the old tactics of rush in and bunny hop in circles around the enemies you'll probably find an early grave.
The game is changed. Gun-game is now more about positioning and tactics, using the tools available (active scanners, vehicles etc) and strategically taking objectives while having eyes and ears on all points in communication.
The game has been changed so that solo Rambos will find a quick trip into the spawn que instead of bouncing around and bunny hopping while somehow managing to avoid fire from up to 16 mercs at once.
Now is the time to use your mind. No longer is shutting off your brain and hopping around in a circle acceptable, now you must move with cover in mind, where are the enemies, where are your allies? Breaching the enemy line means something now where before you could just waltz right past them and take an objective.
Digging in and defensive tactics truly work now. Good squad commanders and team leaders will drastically alter the battlefield.
That's how I feel about it. having good squad commanders, team leaders and tactics in general have ALWAYS been a requirement in competitive play, not just now. Now, it hardly makes a difference if your using someone whos been playing for a year with proto gear or a guy whos been in 2 months with advanced, hes going to get the job done almost as well because of how loleasymode# dust is now. Tactics doesent change how easy and no skill this game is as of today Can't the game be fun?
People spend most of their time in school or at work, what little time they have to invest into something they take as valueble. Some wish to take that time investment seriously and get better at what they invest their time into. Because they wish to get better does not make it "un fun" ? |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:15:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:I don't get some peoples logic. Aim assist means bad players will dominate good ones? What is it that an inexperienced player has that is so much better than an experienced player in a 1V1? You still have better skills, higher tiered gear, and as far as I can tell if somebody get the jump on you, why shouldn't you be DOD?
I will never get your logic, Toggled aim bot in any game where you goal is to acquire better aiming skills.... is like an assbackwards concept... are you a real person? or are you a bot?!?!?! |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:19:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:If you're making comparisons between CoD and Dust, you clearly don't understand how Dust is supposed to be played.
Cover, large maps for flanking, multiple methods to get into and out of engagement range, regenerating shields, regenerating armor, large buffer. These are your tools.
If you're still running in hoping around like an idiot, you will die. You sound like a KB/M user who lost a bunch of suits to DS3 players who are actually competitive again.
Grow up, or quit. Preferably, the second one.
You funny because a ds3 user that was good was competitive ... sounds like aimbot has made you think your good at aiming... you need to take your head out of your ass... |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:45:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:I can't believe how many vets are whining over this change htfu.
Edit: "so called vets" and what would you consider a vet then? would you not agree a vet has more experience and knowledge of this game then a newer player, having been through more builds and seeing more changes to the gameplay mechanics than a newer player? If you were building a car, would you ask someone who has done it before or would you ask a high schooler who is only thinking about whether or not he is popular? Vets in any field including real life don't complain about changes they adapt to it and find ways to stay on top. That's the opposite of everyone else is doing. Like I said don't getting angry now that you can't jump and straff while fighting 2-3 guys in your proto suit and survivor. Give some respect to the guy in the militia suit who 1 v 1 you and won while you had more hp and more dmg. Maybe he did have better gun and now all his head shots are registering.
We are arguing the point that they aren't his headshots... its a computer's headshots and him looking in the general direction. Everyone was missing before not because the lack of aim assist this is common knowledge... You can't say aimbot is hit detection... it doesn't even make sense in an argument... |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:51:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:I think the game is far more enjoyable. Already the game has changed and become fun because we now rely more on the environment and our team. sounds like your having more fun because the game is making you feel better than you were about 24 hours ago Or maybe it is all the updated added in 1.4 that makes it more enjoyable? I am using both mouse and ds3, and the aimbot is hardly noticing,
ahahahahaha. Then you go on to tell us how you know things right? fml this game is doomed. |
Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:55:00 -
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Malcom Xo wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Its hard to consider ourselfs skilled now when this game is so easy mode its cod. In cod, you run around the map and shoot ppl down in like 2 hits, no one ever sees you comming and you kill them unexpectedly. Now that our freindly team sight is gone, we run around just as blindly looking for targets. Now that we all have aimbot, we kill ppl with ARs as fast as an AR kills someone in COD. Now that we have no strafe, we cant break the aimbot so we simply die. There is no need for skill in dust now!!! get rid of the aimbot :(( its not fun to play cod, or a cod clone that is slightly more involved with alittle math. It feels like we advanced, skill heavy players are no better than scrubs, reguarless of SP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYGlWjIKoY4 It was already hard for you to consider yourself a skilled player, all troll aside let's be real here if you guys were "skilled" and took care of business ya wouldn't be depending on a person in your corp clearly cheating. When he was in EoN he used AR just saying. Must be hard carrying AE, I might of stooped down to finding some kinda bug to help me out too. Just saying... I think you lost all credibility to be in here talking like you care what's best for Dust514.... GG. /Thread
Ask yourself... did melee get fixed? or even mentioned? and yes he did own entire teams by himself running up individually to you all and punching u in the face. Now ask yourself did u really have an ability to aim in the first place?
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Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:03:00 -
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IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Bethhy wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:IRON PATRIOT 1 wrote:I can't believe how many vets are whining over this change htfu.
Edit: "so called vets" and what would you consider a vet then? would you not agree a vet has more experience and knowledge of this game then a newer player, having been through more builds and seeing more changes to the gameplay mechanics than a newer player? If you were building a car, would you ask someone who has done it before or would you ask a high schooler who is only thinking about whether or not he is popular? Vets in any field including real life don't complain about changes they adapt to it and find ways to stay on top. That's the opposite of everyone else is doing. Like I said don't getting angry now that you can't jump and straff while fighting 2-3 guys in your proto suit and survivor. Give some respect to the guy in the militia suit who 1 v 1 you and won while you had more hp and more dmg. Maybe he did have better gun and now all his head shots are registering. We are arguing the point that they aren't his headshots... its a computer's headshots and him looking in the general direction. Everyone was missing before not because the lack of aim assist this is common knowledge... You can't say aimbot is hit detection... it doesn't even make sense in an argument... What is your arguement being caught in the open and being punished for it or is it being 1 v 1 and getting out classes by militia gear? If its the latter its not the game its you.
If you think this argument *AT ALL* is about tactical positioning in the game when we are talking about the gun game.... im lost to think where your head is? battle tactics and cover has never changed from any FPS.... the fact that you think aimbot makes hiding behind a box,... gun game... is disturbing.. This isn't a game where we all have 100 health and its finite whats the point in having high health point value suits... you can camp longer?
and yes iron i was getting outclasses by militia people clearly..... and i'm so hurt... and scared.... no wait...? sigh..
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Bethhy
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:46:00 -
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Lol you responded to the second question with sarcasm great arguement what ever all I'm saying is we have better gear which means more hp and more dmg output and If your aim and gun game was so good it should be gody ly now that we have "ALLMIGHTY AIMBOT" to assist us so I don't see your point. Anyways it was nice chatting with you guys see you on the battlefield.
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