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Exmaple Core
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:17:00 -
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Nothing wrong with it being a bad tank map, tho i was hoping we could get a decent tank map for once in uprising. Steer clear tanks, you will get destroyed in seconds from all angels and theres nothing you can do about it |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:21:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:i want to say that my scanner takes care of that issue, and all in all dismiss your post, but then i realize swarms still dont render and have twice the dps as before.
well the swarms isent the promblem, i was exploring the map earlier and saw theres slits in the walls small enough for tanks to have trouble shooting AV but AV have fine shots, the corners are extreemly tight and AV can pounce before the tank can turn the corner or draw LOS, elivated areas everywere for AV its just perfect for AV specialist, tanks are so boned on this map.
Theres nothing wrong with a map designed to kill tanks, there should be a few but all the maps are bad tank maps.... this is just the worse one. gluck freinds |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:35:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:i want to say that my scanner takes care of that issue, and all in all dismiss your post, but then i realize swarms still dont render and have twice the dps as before. well the swarms isent the promblem, i was exploring the map earlier and saw theres slits in the walls small enough for tanks to have trouble shooting AV but AV have fine shots, the corners are extreemly tight and AV can pounce before the tank can turn the corner or draw LOS, elivated areas everywere for AV its just perfect for AV specialist, tanks are so boned on this map. Theres nothing wrong with a map designed to kill tanks, there should be a few but all the maps are bad tank maps.... this is just the worse one. gluck freinds The design direction for the Research Facility was more infantry friendly, and vehicles to be at a disadvantage. There is a sweet spot for tanks if you can find it and hold it. You would need "team work" though to ensure keeping it. And you could potentially secure two hack points from incursions on the roads if you are skilled.
I approve of the map, its a great map and i like the idea that it is meant to beat up vehicles, it does it well. Tho playing on the map and checking out how theres hidden compartments for infaintry to queeze in and theres 2 levels to view everything, i would imagine that even a skilled tanker would have promblems staying there if any single, dedicated AV specialist wanted him gone. Or a single person with AV grenades striking from the hidden apartments or above on the upper level, dont need LOS to throw them. not sure what the sweet spot is but im certain it is a trap for a tank, hed be pretty boned staying in one spot.
All in all solid map, deffenetly does a good job keeping the vehicals out, cant even get ran over! i like that part. Just sucks AV got buffed, our tanks suck and now the maps are constructively being designed to kill tanks too...? so overkill. clearly you guys hate vehicals, alot. like, alota lot lot lot |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:41:00 -
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CCP LogicLoop wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:CCP LogicLoop wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:i want to say that my scanner takes care of that issue, and all in all dismiss your post, but then i realize swarms still dont render and have twice the dps as before. well the swarms isent the promblem, i was exploring the map earlier and saw theres slits in the walls small enough for tanks to have trouble shooting AV but AV have fine shots, the corners are extreemly tight and AV can pounce before the tank can turn the corner or draw LOS, elivated areas everywere for AV its just perfect for AV specialist, tanks are so boned on this map. Theres nothing wrong with a map designed to kill tanks, there should be a few but all the maps are bad tank maps.... this is just the worse one. gluck freinds The design direction for the Research Facility was more infantry friendly, and vehicles to be at a disadvantage. There is a sweet spot for tanks if you can find it and hold it. You would need "team work" though to ensure keeping it. And you could potentially secure two hack points from incursions on the roads if you are skilled. I approve of the map, its a great map and i like the idea that it is meant to beat up vehicles, it does it well. Tho playing on the map and checking out how theres hidden compartments for infaintry to queeze in and theres 2 levels to view everything, i would imagine that even a skilled tanker would have promblems staying there if any single, dedicated AV specialist wanted him gone. Or a single person with AV grenades striking from the hidden apartments or above on the upper level, dont need LOS to throw them. not sure what the sweet spot is but im certain it is a trap for a tank, hed be pretty boned staying in one spot. All in all solid map, deffenetly does a good job keeping the vehicals out, cant even get ran over! i like that part. Just sucks AV got buffed, our tanks suck and now the maps are constructively being designed to kill tanks too...? so overkill. clearly you guys hate vehicals, alot. like, alota lot lot lot A tank holding the point I talk about, "team work" and "skilled" are important words in that comment. hehe
yeah i can see that working out if the team holds well. All thats left to do is convince the blu berrys to work with you so you can be useful and stay alive 5 squadmates will still make it difficult but i think achiveable, pending on the amount av laying on the upper levels. overall i like the map, keep up the goodwork. hoping 1.5 will turn this map around a tad bit for the ppl who do not have 16 mill sp invested into tanks like i do |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:50:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Traditionally tanks suck at urban warfare. traditionally tanks use their gun to take the urban out of warfare
bam. Traditionally, ill give you a like for this come back. But instead here, have my butt ;) |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Traditionally tanks suck at urban warfare.
yep, nothing wrong with that. Just locking for a map tanks dont suck at.... |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:02:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i wonder of this map is friendly to re users..
hell yes. plenty of twists and turns to make traps in |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:20:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Traditionally tanks suck at urban warfare. traditionally tanks use their gun to take the urban out of warfare bam. Traditionally, ill give you a like for this come back. But instead here, have my butt ;) woah
you like it. f ag |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 01:58:00 -
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i really hope no one attempts to exsist in this map. youl loose it, enemys work together to kill your tank but blu dots do not work to keep you alive. with it being so indoors you cant support them very well to keep them alive. if you cant support your team you cant hide behind them. lost hope to try |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:10:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:The only maps havs would be good at is a flat desert. All it takes is one building and a militia dropship.
there was a map in chromosome, mantis peak ambush were there were many tall rocks that littered the map, each large enough to block LOS from AV and the vehicals. As long as the tank avoided the open trails of the map there was always a rock to block LOS. very simple, thats a tank needs. a few large rocks |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:21:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:i wouldnt even mind the towers if they simply put a ladder or some ****.
i guess making them visible would be a start, havent had a chance to see if rendering is fixed, but i WAS hit by invisiswarms already
dizam. are things rendering for vehicals better than 1.3? |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:26:00 -
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To be expected. Its a good thing we have an urban map, and a good one at that. Np that this map is meant to kill tanks, infaintry battles without having to worry about using av is great. Its just.... We need a map were tanks have a chance too |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:42:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:yeah, forget the part the Chechen soldiers were wearing russian uniforms and assaulted tanks from all sides with like 10 freaking rpgs all at the same time. wanna see what happens to a tank with only 3 forges or swarms? scratch that, ONE guy with lai dais and a forge?
lololololol |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:48:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Maybe I should get a proto Forge
doesent matta, theres plenty of proto AV to kill our standard tanks and maps to give favor to AV. the same AV that gets buffed every new patch. so its whatevs, were boned the more we get into uprising, cant wait to see what buffs the AV gets in 1.5. 8 missiles per swarm this time? maby you should get a swarm launcher instead |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:52:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:yeah, forget the part the Chechen soldiers were wearing russian uniforms and assaulted tanks from all sides with like 10 freaking rpgs all at the same time. wanna see what happens to a tank with only 3 forges or swarms? scratch that, ONE guy with lai dais and a forge? The Russians made all sorts of screw-ups really, but there were practical matters like the main gun not being able to elevate high enough to hit people in buildings and the tanks not being fully staffed. In that sense, there's some equivalence, because tankers in Dust often go off with no infantry support (and no gunners). Elevated positions in Dust are frequently fatal to vehicles as well, as they are in real life. I'd agree that there's something of a power balance issue between AV and vehicles (perhaps a lack of proto vehicles is part of that), but tanks are often disadvantaged in an urban environment. Or, you can also look at them as infantry support vehicles (as armor can be in real life), in which case a tank would normally have a full crew and a squad in support. I guess I'm suggesting that the map isn't necessarily the problem; it's just AV and vehicles still need their balance work.
Its a shame theres so many milita tankers and less than 5 mill SP invested tankers that go without support, it really sucks cuz your allowed to say tanks go without support, but those are the nonfactor tankers. even the good tankers wont do well on this map because they cant support infaintry inside the compound, outside of their los or deffend themselfs from the many many golden positions that are great for AV. nothing wrong with it, we just wantn a map good for tanks. thats all, we just have a bunch of bad ones and a new tank trap map |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:58:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Maybe I should get a proto Forge doesent matta, theres plenty of proto AV to kill our standard tanks and maps to give favor to AV. the same AV that gets buffed every new patch. so its whatevs, were boned the more we get into uprising, cant wait to see what buffs the AV gets in 1.5. 8 missiles per swarm this time? maby you should get a swarm launcher instead But what if tank were OP  , and tankers hate heavies the first guy to go 
tankers can not see heavys, your flashlight is gone! run into a herd of bluberrys and the tank will not be able to find you, youl be a black ant in a mound of more black ants. Also, tanks will not be OP, the dev blog explaining the changes in 1.5 has been out for awhile. Armor tanks are getting worse and shield tanks slightly better. Tanks are going to be garbage as awhole and its getting worse for tankers as we get closer to 1.5. srly. every patch sence the end of chromosome has been a beat down on tanks. all of them |
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Posted - 2013.09.04 02:59:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:defffinetely rail friendly..blasters have to be careful.
more like rail borring, you dont bring rails inside of citys and you cant kill anyone who is inside the city if your outside the city. you can try lolmissiles, see how that works forya |
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