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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:21:00 -
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Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. |
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Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
516
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:23:00 -
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With the new scopes I hope old laser users spec into them again and realize how viable they are against MD users. |
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Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
112
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:29:00 -
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don't tell anybody. Although im sure they will find out soon enough. The few games i played the gun "feels" good. it already had decent dmg if you could aim. inside its optimal. Then i tried out my scrambler rifle and Ar, and they felt better also. I wish the dmg outside its optimal was a little better. |
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demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z Covert Intervention
161
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:29:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. the difference being we have played thousands of games each and they only spent an hour - not the same |
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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
33
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:30:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:With the new scopes I hope old laser users spec into them again and realize how viable they are against MD users. They're really good, now with the scopes its even better. I see atleast 1 guy every match using a laser, I am using it myself. |
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HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
227
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:30:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. The viziam is already super bad. I might spec into them. |
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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
33
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:31:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. the difference being we have played thousands of games each and they only spent an hour - not the same
Ah thousand of hours of the old stuff. 1.4 is relatively new to us. Aim assists and new stuff, so its basically evens the ground.
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GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
127
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:32:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy.
Wait until people are smart and switch to armor. lazes will die again. Lazers dont seem to cut intol the 700 armor HP I have. |
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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
33
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:34:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Wait until people are smart and switch to armor. lazes will die again. Lazers dont seem to cut intol the 700 armor HP I have. Agree, agree :) That's why Mass Drivers don't need a nerf anymore. Or else armour will become OP with nothing to chew it down. |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
895
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:14:00 -
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I would say they're doing pretty good with all those caldari running around. ;) |
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Musta Tornius
Cannonfodder PMC
558
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:27:00 -
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Minor nitpick, the laser is slightly off centre, it is about 3-5 pixels too low down and 2-3 pixels to the right of the ADS aiming dot, which is a little bit annoying. |
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Viktor Vikrizi
The Corporate Raiders
36
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:52:00 -
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I agree the lasor is back . Something about it just feels different other than the scope ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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The Robot Devil
Echo Galactic Industries
890
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Posted - 2013.09.03 23:59:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Minor nitpick, the laser is slightly off centre, it is about 3-5 pixels too low down and 2-3 pixels to the right of the ADS aiming dot, which is a little bit annoying.
It seemed that way to me also. I have thought that for a while but blamed it on the old irons. |
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The Robot Devil
Echo Galactic Industries
890
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:00:00 -
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Viktor Vikrizi wrote:I agree the lasor is back . Something about it just feels different other than the scope ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
I think the beam may look better. Looks like it has electricity in it when it hits the target. |
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Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:14:00 -
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They never left. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1537
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:18:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Are you a laser user? Never heard of you, welcome to the club. To gain entrance you must say "AMARR RULEZ" or "Gotta enslave the Minmatar"
I never stopped using my Laser.... this was such a quiet and glorious golden age..... now our days are numbered. |
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:18:00 -
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adds COD level aim assist noobs proclaim "X" gun is back. |
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Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 00:36:00 -
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Might be time to dust it off again...
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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
35
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Are you a laser user? Never heard of you, welcome to the club. To gain entrance you must say "AMARR RULEZ" or "Gotta enslave the Minmatar" I never stopped using my Laser.... this was such a quiet and glorious golden age..... now our days are numbered. Nah, not an all time laser user but use it jointly with Mass Drivers and Plasma Cannons. |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
268
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:36:00 -
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I agree it's back, I enjoyed thoroughly killing a heavy hmg last night, by staying right in the mid range where his bullets didn't cause too much damage, and lasering his face with my beautiful new scope. |
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan
Murder Cakes Of Doom
252
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:37:00 -
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u died 7 times. how is tht good. i can do better with an AR or MD. now tht's a decent game but by no means good. a good game would be if u went 23-1 or 25-2. something awesome, but not tht. XD at least tht's wat a good game for me is. :D |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1570
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:37:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Are you a laser user? Never heard of you, welcome to the club. To gain entrance you must say "AMARR RULEZ" or "Gotta enslave the Minmatar" I never stopped using my Laser.... this was such a quiet and glorious golden age..... now our days are numbered. Nah, not an all time laser user but use it jointly with Mass Drivers and Plasma Cannons. Join the club, have some fun, Aero and I ran dual lasers and manages to hit 30/2 combined running frontline laser users, hemming in the enemy, flanking them from the rear crossing an open caldera to get there, and just generally focus firing to mow down snipers, heavies, and assaults with ease. |
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nicholas73
Starfox Merc Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Are you a laser user? Never heard of you, welcome to the club. To gain entrance you must say "AMARR RULEZ" or "Gotta enslave the Minmatar" I never stopped using my Laser.... this was such a quiet and glorious golden age..... now our days are numbered. Nah, not an all time laser user but use it jointly with Mass Drivers and Plasma Cannons. Join the club, have some fun, Aero and I ran dual lasers and manages to hit 30/2 combined running frontline laser users, hemming in the enemy, flanking them from the rear crossing an open caldera to get there, and just generally focus firing to mow down snipers, heavies, and assaults with ease. You guys got any chat channel for laser users? |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1570
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:47:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:True Adamance wrote:nicholas73 wrote:Yeah, rise of the lasers again.
Oh yeah about all the QQ going on, please stop guys. Give it some time to sink in. Remember what many of us said when the reviews were out for dust, "they just played a few games and gave a review based on that and failed to realise its depth". Aren't you guys doing the same now.
Though I do feel the game mechanic has become kind of sloppy and heavy. Are you a laser user? Never heard of you, welcome to the club. To gain entrance you must say "AMARR RULEZ" or "Gotta enslave the Minmatar" I never stopped using my Laser.... this was such a quiet and glorious golden age..... now our days are numbered. Nah, not an all time laser user but use it jointly with Mass Drivers and Plasma Cannons. Join the club, have some fun, Aero and I ran dual lasers and manages to hit 30/2 combined running frontline laser users, hemming in the enemy, flanking them from the rear crossing an open caldera to get there, and just generally focus firing to mow down snipers, heavies, and assaults with ease. You guys got any chat channel for laser users?
No we just operate out of PIE Public drop by sometime and squad up with us. Amarr set ups like Aero's and mine are geared towards defensive actions so we could try setting up a laser gunline. The ScR gunline works wonders.
In two man teams Laser squads pack some serious stopping power. Alone they are easy to take down. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1513
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:55:00 -
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Was going to talk about myself and True Adamance's combined 30-2 record when we whipped out the lasers in Ambush, but seems he has beaten me to the punch.
Unfortunately this thread title is inaccurate but hardly anyone will notice. Lasers aren't back, they never left. They've always been good, and True and I have been able to put up similar numbers before during Uprising. All you fair weather laser fans need not respond ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
"Children of Amarr, Beloved of God Do not fear the dark heavens The stars are a sign unto you To bring the Light to dark places And so many wondrous lights we carry Illuminating peoples and worlds Know that our empire is holy Set apart for an immortal destiny Stand true, Children of Amarr Let the rays of our enlightenment Shine ever before the Almighty." Empress Jamyl Sarum I |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1571
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:57:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Was going to talk about myself and True Adamance's combined 30-2 record when we whipped out the lasers in Ambush, but seems he has beaten me to the punch. Unfortunately this thread title is inaccurate but hardly anyone will notice. Lasers aren't back, they never left. They've always been good, and True and I have been able to put up similar numbers before during Uprising. All you fair weather laser fans need not respond ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png) "Children of Amarr, Beloved of God Do not fear the dark heavens The stars are a sign unto you To bring the Light to dark places And so many wondrous lights we carry Illuminating peoples and worlds Know that our empire is holy Set apart for an immortal destiny Stand true, Children of Amarr Let the rays of our enlightenment Shine ever before the Almighty."Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Go the hell to sleep Yassavi even us immortal close need some down time.
Aye and Lasers have been great for the longest time now since the blue glow was removed. The fact that current lasers have the damage nerf but the same style of aiming as chromo and decent ADS. |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
4705
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:00:00 -
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BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:u died 7 times. how is tht good. i can do better with an AR or MD. now tht's a decent game but by no means good. a good game would be if u went 23-1 or 25-2. something awesome, but not tht. XD at least tht's wat a good game for me is. :D That's the point. The AR is the easy mode of the game and follows the boring but effective trope. You use niche weapons because they're fun to use despite their drawbacks. |
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
332
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:15:00 -
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Went 27/2 already with the deathchorus ELM with 3 complex damage mods. I only have operation 1, and am speccing into something else atm, or I'd have the viziam for sure. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1571
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:BobThe 844-1 CakeMan wrote:u died 7 times. how is tht good. i can do better with an AR or MD. now tht's a decent game but by no means good. a good game would be if u went 23-1 or 25-2. something awesome, but not tht. XD at least tht's wat a good game for me is. :D That's the point. The AR is the easy mode of the game and follows the boring but effective trope. You use niche weapons because they're fun to use despite their drawbacks. That's not a good laser score.
For lasers its not about killing a lot of people its more about maximising your precision and effectiveness. A KDR of 7+ would suffice as a great score for a laser match. |
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Mregomies
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
21
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Posted - 2013.09.04 09:31:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:With the new scopes I hope old laser users spec into them again and realize how viable they are against MD users. I'll try laser with MD in commando suit that I won in the kalmera's. Let's see how OP is that fit :)
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