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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:34:00 -
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Why not ? The DS3 is literally an Aimbot, the current mouse settings are 1.3 with out friction or aim assist there is no competition when going up against a DS3 user with aim assist..
Why even have kb/m in the game if it's useless.. |
sovereign rust
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:23:00 -
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+1 no reason not to... |
Duran Lex
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:26:00 -
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The same thing was said about keeping KB/M in when they removed aim assist from DS3 controllers.
Yet for months you've kept your advantage and apparently became dependent on the scenario never changing.
You were in the wrong.
Edit - And anyways, the new mouse options come in patch 1.5 |
Beld Errmon
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
831
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:30:00 -
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Don't worry once mouse users have relearnt to aim all over again (for like the 5th time in dust) their aimbot won't stand up to actual finesse. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
158
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:35:00 -
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Remove KB/M |
Abby Invo
DUST University Ivy League
42
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Posted - 2013.09.04 14:52:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Why not ? The DS3 is literally an Aimbot, the current mouse settings are 1.3 with out friction or aim assist there is no competition when going up against a DS3 user with aim assist..
Why even have kb/m in the game if it's useless.. is it really? is it LITERALLY an AIMBOT?
what is it with these forum goers and responding so histrionically to any change that doesn't affect them in a positive light? the aim assist is nothing like an aimbot and anyone who has actually used it would know that. it's on par with other console shooters. is it noticeable? yes, because we've been without it for so long. look, I did OK before aim assist but anyone who played with a gamepad will tell you that aiming prior to 1.4 was clunky and poor. this assist is a positive, and KB + M players needs to actually try it themselves for a few matches before continuously wailing on the forums. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3582
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:02:00 -
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Abby Invo wrote:M McManus wrote:Why not ? The DS3 is literally an Aimbot, the current mouse settings are 1.3 with out friction or aim assist there is no competition when going up against a DS3 user with aim assist..
Why even have kb/m in the game if it's useless.. is it really? is it LITERALLY an AIMBOT? what is it with these forum goers and responding so histrionically to any change that doesn't affect them in a positive light? the aim assist is nothing like an aimbot and anyone who has actually used it would know that. it's on par with other console shooters. is it noticeable? yes, because we've been without it for so long. look, I did OK before aim assist but anyone who played with a gamepad will tell you that aiming prior to 1.4 was clunky and poor. this assist is a positive, and KB + M players needs to actually try it themselves for a few matches before continuously wailing on the forums. Aiming and hit detection are better in 1.4 with OR without the aim assist.
And while the aim assist isn't quite on the level of a well-coded aimbot, it isn't too far short. If you can adapt to using it (more like letting it do most of the work), it makes things FAR easier than it should. You can line up near a target and just blaze away with reasonable expectation that it will auto-correct your aim not just to hit, but to specifically give you headshots. |
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:04:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:.... it will auto-correct your aim not just to hit, but to specifically give you headshots.
rly? |
Abby Invo
DUST University Ivy League
44
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:06:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Abby Invo wrote:M McManus wrote:Why not ? The DS3 is literally an Aimbot, the current mouse settings are 1.3 with out friction or aim assist there is no competition when going up against a DS3 user with aim assist..
Why even have kb/m in the game if it's useless.. is it really? is it LITERALLY an AIMBOT? what is it with these forum goers and responding so histrionically to any change that doesn't affect them in a positive light? the aim assist is nothing like an aimbot and anyone who has actually used it would know that. it's on par with other console shooters. is it noticeable? yes, because we've been without it for so long. look, I did OK before aim assist but anyone who played with a gamepad will tell you that aiming prior to 1.4 was clunky and poor. this assist is a positive, and KB + M players needs to actually try it themselves for a few matches before continuously wailing on the forums. Aiming and hit detection are better in 1.4 with OR without the aim assist. And while the aim assist isn't quite on the level of a well-coded aimbot, it isn't too far short. If you can adapt to using it (more like letting it do most of the work), it makes things FAR easier than it should. You can line up near a target and just blaze away with reasonable expectation that it will auto-correct your aim not just to hit, but to specifically give you headshots. Provide video proof of your claims please. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3582
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:08:00 -
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Abby Invo wrote:Provide video proof of your claims please. As soon as you send me a capture card. |
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Abby Invo
DUST University Ivy League
46
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:13:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Abby Invo wrote:Provide video proof of your claims please. As soon as you send me a capture card. Record it on your cell phone, I don't care about the quality. You're making spurious claims and avoiding the burden of proof for them. |
Beld Errmon
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
838
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:16:00 -
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Its a claim made by more than just Garret, as much as i dislike his snooty knowitallism, he is more often then not right. |
Seed Dren
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
40
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:16:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Abby Invo wrote:M McManus wrote:Why not ? The DS3 is literally an Aimbot, the current mouse settings are 1.3 with out friction or aim assist there is no competition when going up against a DS3 user with aim assist..
Why even have kb/m in the game if it's useless.. is it really? is it LITERALLY an AIMBOT? what is it with these forum goers and responding so histrionically to any change that doesn't affect them in a positive light? the aim assist is nothing like an aimbot and anyone who has actually used it would know that. it's on par with other console shooters. is it noticeable? yes, because we've been without it for so long. look, I did OK before aim assist but anyone who played with a gamepad will tell you that aiming prior to 1.4 was clunky and poor. this assist is a positive, and KB + M players needs to actually try it themselves for a few matches before continuously wailing on the forums. Aiming and hit detection are better in 1.4 with OR without the aim assist. And while the aim assist isn't quite on the level of a well-coded aimbot, it isn't too far short. If you can adapt to using it (more like letting it do most of the work), it makes things FAR easier than it should. You can line up near a target and just blaze away with reasonable expectation that it will auto-correct your aim not just to hit, but to specifically give you headshots.
Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha. Ahahahahaahahahaahahahaha ahahahaahahahaahahahaha. I haven't laugh like that in a while.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
457
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:25:00 -
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Aimbot argument aside, the DS3 is on steroids right now especially compared to the mouse in its current state... Why keep the KB/M controls handicapped by this ****** analog imitation when supposedly DS3 users "need" aim assist to compete with kb/m... ?
Which is not true at all because before 1.4 (aim assist) the majority of skilled shooters were going toe to toe with mouse users...
So does this mean the DS3 has the advantage now considering the mouse is an analog stick with out aim assist ? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3587
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:29:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:snooty knowitallism I'd love to argue this... but it's true. Sorry. I try to stick to only having that attitude when I'm absolutely certain. And if I'm proven wrong (either by someone else or my own continued testing), I usually make a point of admitting to the mistake.
For the record, yes, it is possible to escape the auto-aim easier than you can escape a skilled player with it turned off. The aim assist function will turn for you, but it won't turn as fast as your maximum turn speed. If you're relying entirely on it without bothering to touch the right stick, it's possible to get out of the tracking area and into safety pretty fast... if you survive long enough to try and do so. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
457
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:38:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:snooty knowitallism I'd love to argue this... but it's true. Sorry. I try to stick to only having that attitude when I'm absolutely certain. And if I'm proven wrong (either by someone else or my own continued testing), I usually make a point of admitting to the mistake. For the record, yes, it is possible to escape the auto-aim easier than you can escape a skilled player with it turned off. The aim assist function will turn for you, but it won't turn as fast as your maximum turn speed. If you're relying entirely on it without bothering to touch the right stick, it's possible to get out of the tracking area and into safety pretty fast... if you survive long enough to try and do so.
So what your saying is, aim assist is only OP for people with two thumbs, gotcha.. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
311
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Posted - 2013.09.04 15:41:00 -
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remove kbm from dust - concentrate on one input device - problem (nearly/ ccp style) solved |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3607
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Posted - 2013.09.04 17:13:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:snooty knowitallism I'd love to argue this... but it's true. Sorry. I try to stick to only having that attitude when I'm absolutely certain. And if I'm proven wrong (either by someone else or my own continued testing), I usually make a point of admitting to the mistake. For the record, yes, it is possible to escape the auto-aim easier than you can escape a skilled player with it turned off. The aim assist function will turn for you, but it won't turn as fast as your maximum turn speed. If you're relying entirely on it without bothering to touch the right stick, it's possible to get out of the tracking area and into safety pretty fast... if you survive long enough to try and do so. So what your saying is, aim assist is only OP for people with two thumbs, gotcha.. It's entirely possible to have two thumbs and still play a game with only one.
My girlfriend used to play Assassin's Creed multiplayer from the kitchen while making dinner. Added bonus when she got the abusive guy on mic telling her to get back in the kitchen while she's already there. |
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