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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:30:00 -
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So you can no longer dodge bullets by two stepping in front of an HMG's 2000 RPM spray of fire?
So you have to use strafing as an effective means to seek cover when under fire? You know, what strafing is supposed to be for.
So no more strafing/bunny hopping tryhard children exploiting ridiculous game mechanics?
Good!
I see much QQ on the horizon. |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers
EoN.
831
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:33:00 -
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Oh boy! you're in for a rude awakening when you go toe to toe with me. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
743
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:33:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:So you can no longer dodge bullets by two stepping in front of an HMG's 2000 RPM spray of fire?
So you have to use strafing as an effective means to seek cover when under fire? You know, what strafing is supposed to be for.
So no more strafing/bunny hopping tryhard children exploiting ridiculous game mechanics?
Good!
I see much QQ on the horizon.
Solid point but Most people with good gungame can deal with bunnyhoppers... I don't even need to aim. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders
743
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:34:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Oh boy! you're in for a rude awakening when you go toe to toe with me.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
833
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:34:00 -
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yep bunny hopping was never an issue for me, it was honestly one oft he fun parts of the games, made duels interesting and dynamic.
not sure why you think an aim bot doing all the work for you would be fun....
anyway as usual I will adapt |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
608
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:35:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Oh boy! you're in for a rude awakening when you go toe to toe with me.
I welcome the challenge!
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
608
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:38:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:yep bunny hopping was never an issue for me, it was honestly one oft he fun parts of the games, made duels interesting and dynamic.
not sure why you think an aim bot doing all the work for you would be fun....
anyway as usual I will adapt
The problem was players could easily avoid having hits register simply by making small fast side to side/up down movements. This was the case even if the person shooting had perfect aim. |
DS 10
Ancient Exiles
860
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:38:00 -
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I'm considering rolling with an HMG a little bit. Haven't used it much in Uprising at all. |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
121
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:41:00 -
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You'll just have to play smart and NOT RUN up on a heavy. Who would have guessed not to run up on the heavy that has a HMG. Range is the AR best friend. Pick a heavy off from range??
You cant stand out in the open anymore trying to do the matrix. Cover is the next thing to be nerfed  |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
834
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:42:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:calisk galern wrote:yep bunny hopping was never an issue for me, it was honestly one oft he fun parts of the games, made duels interesting and dynamic.
not sure why you think an aim bot doing all the work for you would be fun....
anyway as usual I will adapt The problem was players could easily avoid having hits register simply by making small fast side to side/up down movements. This was the case even if the person shooting had perfect aim.
oh I know I would do the same and I'd enjoy fighting people also doing the same. |
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Terram Nenokal
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:52:00 -
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I haven't tried the new aiming yet, but aiming in this game has always felt like sort of an afterthought after playing years of Quake and UT. Dust is slow, and a lot of what wins a firefight is proper positioning, squad support, flanking, and just generally out-thinking your opponent. This change just makes that even more the case.
With the need to aim gone for people who couldn't before, this makes Dust much more of a numbers and tactical game (like Eve) rather than a strafe shooter.
notice: I liked how it worked before and haven't tried how it works now, I don't care either way really, just my 2 cents. |
Taeryn Frost
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:54:00 -
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Now I've noticed other players can now more frequently supply a steady stream of damage to me.
Thus far, I don't seem to be as effective as I was before. So I guess I'll have to work on the new mechanics a bit. Is it possible my aim sucks so bad even auto aim cannot account for it?  |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
610
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:56:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:I haven't tried the new aiming yet, but aiming in this game has always felt like sort of an afterthought after playing years of Quake and UT. Dust is slow, and a lot of what wins a firefight is proper positioning, squad support, flanking, and just generally out-thinking your opponent. This change just makes that even more the case.
With the need to aim gone for people who couldn't before, this makes Dust much more of a numbers and tactical game (like Eve) rather than a strafe shooter.
notice: I liked how it worked before and haven't tried how it works now, I don't care either way really, just my 2 cents.
I doubt the need to aim is "gone", people tend to over exaggerate on the forums about game mechanics such as this. Your firs paragraph is spot on, though! |
Buddha Brown
Factory Fresh
355
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:57:00 -
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aim assist? really? what kind of scrubs use aim assist |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
612
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:00:00 -
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Buddha Brown wrote:aim assist? really? what kind of scrubs use aim assist
I personally haven't tested yet. Though, I am quite anxious to. If it is too much, I will turn it off. Hopefully the HMG has better hit detection regardless. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
Public Disorder.
369
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:02:00 -
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Lol ARs outrange most weapons, good in almost any situation with no drawbacks, can take down Heavies in less than 2 seconds, and with Aim Assist you don't have to Aim it anymore.
GG Scouts
lolMDQQ
lolFGQQ |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:02:00 -
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Buddha Brown wrote:aim assist? really? what kind of scrubs use aim assist
All of them. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
612
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:20:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:calisk galern wrote:yep bunny hopping was never an issue for me, it was honestly one oft he fun parts of the games, made duels interesting and dynamic.
not sure why you think an aim bot doing all the work for you would be fun....
anyway as usual I will adapt The problem was players could easily avoid having hits register simply by making small fast side to side/up down movements. This was the case even if the person shooting had perfect aim. oh I know I would do the same and I'd enjoy fighting people also doing the same.
I would like to see you accomplish this in a Heavy Suit with an HMG. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3522
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:31:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Buddha Brown wrote:aim assist? really? what kind of scrubs use aim assist I personally haven't tested yet. Though, I am quite anxious to. If it is too much, I will turn it off. Hopefully the HMG has better hit detection regardless.
As soon as it kicked in, I turned it off.
Ew. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
614
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Posted - 2013.09.03 17:32:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Buddha Brown wrote:aim assist? really? what kind of scrubs use aim assist I personally haven't tested yet. Though, I am quite anxious to. If it is too much, I will turn it off. Hopefully the HMG has better hit detection regardless. As soon as it kicked in, I turned it off. Ew.
Is this with the HMG? If so, how is it with it off? |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:28:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:calisk galern wrote:yep bunny hopping was never an issue for me, it was honestly one oft he fun parts of the games, made duels interesting and dynamic.
not sure why you think an aim bot doing all the work for you would be fun....
anyway as usual I will adapt The problem was players could easily avoid having hits register simply by making small fast side to side/up down movements. This was the case even if the person shooting had perfect aim. oh I know I would do the same and I'd enjoy fighting people also doing the same.
Also, thank you for confirming what so many have denied for so long. |
LT Dans Legs
Bullet Cluster
184
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:37:00 -
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Aim assist is OP. Lmao. It is tho. Its way too easy. Oh well. I guess I will enjoy it while it lasts. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
617
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:46:00 -
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LT Dans Legs wrote:Aim assist is OP. Lmao. It is tho. Its way too easy. Oh well. I guess I will enjoy it while it lasts.
I'll wait till I can play it myself, then form my own opinions. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1595
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:47:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:So you can no longer dodge bullets by two stepping in front of an HMG's 2000 RPM spray of fire?
So you have to use strafing as an effective means to seek cover when under fire? You know, what strafing is supposed to be for.
So no more strafing/bunny hopping tryhard children exploiting ridiculous game mechanics?
Good!
I see much QQ on the horizon. Solid point but Most people with good gungame can deal with bunnyhoppers... I don't even need to aim.
When someone hops into the air it's like, oh ok free kill
unless it's a smart shotgun user, reload in the air never lose speed |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
557
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:49:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Oh boy! you're in for a rude awakening when you go toe to toe with me.
Scrub like u is no worry at all, just fire a few MD rounds and sit back while you make a rage post about it having 6 shots  |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3530
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:05:00 -
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In the match I was just in, quick side-to-side movements from both myself and an enemy were literally more than tripling our survival times.
I ran into the same opponent several times, and we seemed to mostly take turns standing still/moving straight and strafing like lunatics. When we both strafed, he won because I had an Exile on a Skinweave suit and he had a Duvolle on a Proto Logi. When he strafed and I didn't, I died so fast it wasn't worth timing. When I strafed and he didn't, I got the kill in about half a second.
Sorry, strafing still helps. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
619
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:14:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:In the match I was just in, quick side-to-side movements from both myself and an enemy were literally more than tripling our survival times.
I ran into the same opponent several times, and we seemed to mostly take turns standing still/moving straight and strafing like lunatics. When we both strafed, he won because I had an Exile on a Skinweave suit and he had a Duvolle on a Proto Logi. When he strafed and I didn't, I died so fast it wasn't worth timing. When I strafed and he didn't, I got the kill in about half a second.
Sorry, strafing still helps.
Do you use KB/m
Do you know if your opponent did.
If you were in fact using DS3, maybe you just simply aren't as good as you thought you were ie can not hit a moving target' |
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