DUST Search - Shotgun Scouts after 1.4

Absoliav wrote:

Shotty GoBang wrote:

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Back after a couple of matches, and saw something VERY interesting.

Point-blank, back of the target's head, barely scratched him. But it DID register as a hit.

As he backed up, turned, then jumped right before I pulled the trigger, landed what SHOULD have been a close-range bodyshot dealing less damage than the Shotgun to the back of the head, and it killed him instantly.

Back in the VERY old days, people worked out that Shotgun spread wasn't a cone that started accurately around the barrel and narrowed down when you skill up, but a tapered cylinder that narrows down evenly along its entire length as you skill up. Pretty sure this is still the case, and I suspect they've either widened it slightly, or made the pellet placement more random within it.

Not sure why that would be done, particularly without being listed in the patch notes, but it's the theory I'm working from right now.

NOTE: Shotgun Operation 3 on the character this happened to.

Noticed a similar pattern (an issue seemingly separate from the damage delay):
A dead-on, point-blank shot scratches off maybe 10% of target shields.
Other shots deal disproportionately large damage.
Randomizing pellet patterns further is a peculiar approach to addressing SG hit detection.

I'll try some testing to see if anythings changed to the pellet spread/pattern, if I can get in a match today, I'll try to find a place I can shoot my SG and watch the pellet spread/pattern, I'd like to ask if you guys would the same thing, just try and find an empty place with four walls, and fire at the wall with while switching ranges.

I'd really like to get some info on this, so if anyone else would like to contribute, please do.


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postmanclark2 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 19	Posted - 2013.09.03 18:46:00 - [1] - Quote Absoliav wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Back after a couple of matches, and saw something VERY interesting. Point-blank, back of the target's head, barely scratched him. But it DID register as a hit. As he backed up, turned, then jumped right before I pulled the trigger, landed what SHOULD have been a close-range bodyshot dealing less damage than the Shotgun to the back of the head, and it killed him instantly. Back in the VERY old days, people worked out that Shotgun spread wasn't a cone that started accurately around the barrel and narrowed down when you skill up, but a tapered cylinder that narrows down evenly along its entire length as you skill up. Pretty sure this is still the case, and I suspect they've either widened it slightly, or made the pellet placement more random within it. Not sure why that would be done, particularly without being listed in the patch notes, but it's the theory I'm working from right now. NOTE: Shotgun Operation 3 on the character this happened to. Noticed a similar pattern (an issue seemingly separate from the damage delay): A dead-on, point-blank shot scratches off maybe 10% of target shields. Other shots deal disproportionately large damage. Randomizing pellet patterns further is a peculiar approach to addressing SG hit detection. I'll try some testing to see if anythings changed to the pellet spread/pattern, if I can get in a match today, I'll try to find a place I can shoot my SG and watch the pellet spread/pattern, I'd like to ask if you guys would the same thing, just try and find an empty place with four walls, and fire at the wall with while switching ranges. I'd really like to get some info on this, so if anyone else would like to contribute, please do. I can contribute, as a non - scout. I went up against one of you guys, in one of the new indoor sockets. There was mixed results IMO. The shottie, seemed to do less damage up close; as it did from say 10m out - I got two shotted from a longer distance than I am used to. One of those shots, was only aimed at half of my body too; I was half way round a corner and he could only see half of my body. Whether the shotgun spread is less than I realise, or there was the random spread distriubution, you guys were talking about meh.