Hello. Need some help with my tank. Actually i have Madrugar with 6,7k armor and 3 light armor reps and sac neutron blaster. And now im getting sp for fuel boost to fast hide. Are these modules good or what should i change?

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: Best Armor Plate, Best Repper, PG Upgrade, 2 Active Hardener
Turret: 80GJ Scattered Blaser, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: 2 Active Hardener, 2 Resistance Plates, Best Repper
Turret: 80GJ Stabilizied Ion Cannon, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: Best Armor Plate, Best Repper, PG Upgrade, 2 Active Hardener
Turret: 80GJ Scattered Blaser, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: 2 Active Hardener, 2 Resistance Plates, Best Repper
Turret: 80GJ Stabilizied Ion Cannon, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

I have a spreadsheet built to do math on vehicles. Your current fit is a 3 shot from proto swarm with 1 damage mod at 80/120% explosive efficiency against armour. (assuming you have 10% armour skill res).

I'm not sure on the number of armour you would lose with dropping one module, but as a guess - if you're dropping ~1500 arm and adding 25% resistance (after stacking penalties) you should gain a fourth shot and some speed, assuming you get a decent repper in as well.

With a shield hardener, I think you could push it into 5 shots survivability, assuming you don't crash into anything or have your reppers in cool down at the start of the engagement.

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: Best Armor Plate, Best Repper, PG Upgrade, 2 Active Hardener
Turret: 80GJ Scattered Blaser, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

Madrugar
High: Active Heat Sink 2, Damage Control Unit
Low: 2 Active Hardener, 2 Resistance Plates, Best Repper
Turret: 80GJ Stabilizied Ion Cannon, 2 20GJ ST-1 Missile Launchers

I have a spreadsheet built to do math on vehicles. Your current fit is a 3 shot from proto swarm with 1 damage mod at 80/120% explosive efficiency against armour. (assuming you have 10% armour skill res).

I'm not sure on the number of armour you would lose with dropping one module, but as a guess - if you're dropping ~1500 arm and adding 25% resistance (after stacking penalties) you should gain a fourth shot and some speed, assuming you get a decent repper in as well.

With a shield hardener, I think you could push it into 5 shots survivability, assuming you don't crash into anything or have your reppers in cool down at the start of the engagement.

on the second one your getting a lot of penalty for that many resistance mods, your DCU is giving you like .5% at that point.

lol @ that 2nd fit

If you have light reppers you are doing it wrong.

Madrugar
High: damage control unit, active scanner
Low: 2 voltaic mods, best 180mm plate, 2 light efficient repps
proto or adv scattered blaster

I know people say lol at light reps but this setup works very well for me

Are Damage Control Units really that useful?

I've always overlooked them due to how little they offer and taking into account stacking penalties, I've always found it better to use that one high for an Active Scanner, helps with knowing when you should 'Get the **** out of there'

Madrugar
High: damage control unit, active scanner
Low: 2 voltaic mods, best 180mm plate, 2 light efficient repps
proto or adv scattered blaster

I know people say lol at light reps but this setup works very well for me

Actually, no.
This tank has a passive resistance of 1-0.9*(1-0.15)*(1-0.15*0.869)=33% (like status screen states)

Active Hardener don't get stacking penalties after passive ones, this brings us to a resistance of 1-0.9*(1-0.25)*(1-0.25*0.869)*(1-0.15*0.28)*(1-0.15*0.1)=50% while active hardeners are running.

Fun fact: calculate EHP with full repper (414*1.15*15) and shield (10% res)

1125/0.9 + (3625+414*1.15*15)/0.50 = 22783 wtf?

This is because your repper gets full profit of resistance.

In the end, forget the math, just do anything you can do to survive.



lol, typical EoN member

Ok so im going for 180mm, best rep,pg+ and 2hardeners, sac blaster and hot sinks. Well think that will help. Once was interested about shield tank but im too scary of forges :d.

Actually, no.
This tank has a passive resistance of 1-0.9*(1-0.15)*(1-0.15*0.869)=33% (like status screen states)

Active Hardener don't get stacking penalties after passive ones, this brings us to a resistance of 1-0.9*(1-0.25)*(1-0.25*0.869)*(1-0.15*0.28)*(1-0.15*0.1)=50% while active hardeners are running.

Fun fact: calculate EHP with full repper (414*1.15*15) and shield (10% res)

1125/0.9 + (3625+414*1.15*15)/0.50 = 22783 wtf?

This is because your repper gets full profit of resistance.

In the end, forget the math, just do anything you can do to survive.



lol, typical EoN member

Are Damage Control Units really that useful?

I've always overlooked them due to how little they offer and taking into account stacking penalties, I've always found it better to use that one high for an Active Scanner, helps with knowing when you should 'Get the **** out of there'

He's probably more smart than a lot of tankers...

Hello. Need some help with my tank. Actually i have Madrugar with 6,7k armor and 3 light armor reps and sac neutron blaster. And now im getting sp for fuel boost to fast hide. Are these modules good or what should i change?

lol, typical EoN member

lol bad tanker

your the one crying because you lose so many tanks.
i call in a madrugar every game and still make profit *shrug*

your the one crying because you lose so many tanks.
i call in a madrugar every game and still make profit *shrug*

w/e. just after stacking penalties its 0.95% for that many resistance modules and yes passive stack with active hardeners. but i guess you don't what a DCU is
*shrugs* scrubs will be scrubs

Sounds like you're sniping behind the redline and recall it when you get hit by MLT swarms.

You should seriously be less arrogant and a bit more open minded.
To the 2nd fit - cons: sth around 4k less EHP than a plate fit, less hp buffer for suprise moments
pros: constant high res which synergizes with the repper, more speed, enough PG for a stabilized Ion Cannon

4 resist plates and no plate with a heavy rep - dead tank

That 4th plate can be next to useless and using passive which gives less than an active means less resistance, at least with 4 active you do have more resistance overall even with stacking penalties

Plus you relying on the resist and rep with your base armor, no rep dead tank at least having 6k offers buffer for you to escape

Im not arrogant because i know what works and what doesnt, ive tested it all and done it all and in PC thats where the real test is not a pub match where its random

Thank you for a normal answer.

You are absolutely right, with all modules down you are dead, but even your 6700 Mad dies with all modules down to a single guy with Lai Dai packed.

With modules you are not that far away from a plate Mad, but you can fit that Stabilized Ion Cannon, you accelerate a bit faster and you make a bit more use of your rep.

I used Mads with plate/PG exclusively over the last months, but last week I met one of those 3625hp Mads and the Stabilized Ion Cannon simply is fun. The passive resists increase your EHP to 5500, which is enough time to let the repper and modules kick in (if you don't cycle hardeners)

Point about your arrogance still holds.