DUST Search - [Request] A titan-like vehicle for dust

Lightning Bolt2 wrote:

Evolution-7 wrote:

Just like in Eve Online, you have 4 massive ships that take quite long to build and gather the isk for. I am thinking a large vehicle (aerial class) about maybe 100-250 metres in size and this will only be allowed in large maps. I am guessing this would come after all other aerial vehicles especially fighters, because they will need to help intercept and engage.

This vehicle will be extremely slow, half the speed of a tank and it can't hide, like tanks can or dropships in time. If the "titan" wants to survive it needs dedicated logi's and aerial support, infantry can run faster than the "titan".

I am guessing that this vehicle must have a base hp high enough, require logi-ships and its own reppers to survive.

These ships, should also be able to hold a capacity of around 10-12 players (passengers), who stand in the bay ready to drop when the pilot says.

Hull for each faction:
6 large turrets

Turret placement: (pilot configurable)
Configuration 1:
4 underside turrets with 2 placed on top of the fuselage
Configuration 2:
3 underside turrets with 2 on each side of the fuselage and 1 on the top.
Configuration 3:
2 underside turrets with 2 on each side of the fuselage and 2 on the top.

Underside turrets are placed in different areas e.g: in the centre, on the rear, on the front.
Topside turrets are placed in the same areas: centre, rear, on the front
Side turrets can be placed anywhere along the side.

HP:

Gallente: 5% bonus to hybrid turrets per level
20 000 Shields
100 000 Armour

Caldari: 5% bonus to missile turrets per level
100 000 Shields
20 000 Armour

Amarr: 5% bonus to energy based turrets per level
40 000 Shields
80 000 Armour

Minmatar: 5% bonus to projectile turrets per level
80 000 Shields
40 000 Armour

I am guessing that with amount of HP, these will have to have built in mega reps (with a higher rep ability per pulse for its prominent method of tanking) e.g.

- Gallente (armour tanking) 4000hp for armour 500hp for shield
- Caldari (shield tanking) 4000hp for shield and 500 hp for armour
- Amarr (armour tanking) 3000hp for armour 1500hp for shield
- Minmatar (shield tanking) 3000hp for shield and 1500 hp for armour

These would require a small amount of spider tanking going on in heavy engagements.

I have always thought that one of these titans-types for dust would be awesome.

that's hopelessly OP, but I do see merit to the idea, just reduce size to 30M, HP to 10K with 5K on other, 2 large turrets one on top other on bottom and BLAMO a gunship that will be expinsive, hard to kill, need support, has firepower AND will look awesome (unless mimitar than you'll just be duct taped together) but yet this STILL might be OP.


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Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 38	Posted - 2013.09.01 10:25:00 - [1] - Quote Just like in Eve Online, you have 4 massive ships that take quite long to build and gather the isk for. I am thinking a large vehicle (aerial class) about maybe 100-250 metres in size and this will only be allowed in large maps. I am guessing this would come after all other aerial vehicles especially fighters, because they will need to help intercept and engage. I am guessing that this vehicle must have a base hp high enough, require logi-ships and its own reppers to survive. These ships, should also be able to hold a capacity of around 20-30 players (passengers), who stand in the bay ready to drop when the pilot says. Hull for each faction: 10-12 large turret. 5-6 medium turrets (once they are implemented) HP: Gallente: 5% bonus to hybrid turrets per level 20 000 Shields 100 000 Armour Caldari: 5% bonus to missile turrets per level 100 000 Shields 20 000 Armour Amarr: 5% bonus to energy based turrets per level 40 000 Shields 80 000 Armour Minmatar: 5% bonus to projectile turrets per level 80 000 Shields 40 000 Armour I am guessing that with amount of HP, these will have to have built in mega reps (with a higher rep ability per pulse for its prominent method of tanking) e.g. - Gallente (armour tanking) 4000hp for armour 500hp for shield - Caldari (shield tanking) 4000hp for shield and 500 hp for armour - Amarr (armour tanking) 3000hp for armour 1500hp for shield - Minmatar (shield tanking) 3000hp for shield and 1500 hp for armour These would require a small amount of spider tanking going on in heavy engagements. I have always thought that one of these titans-types for dust would be awesome.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.09.01 13:20:00 - [2] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: They already have these, they're called battleships. Download EVE and give it a try. This is for Dust if you didn't know.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.09.01 13:21:00 - [3] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: sry to say it but OP op?, 2000 rep a pulse 10 pulses? are you kidding me, without logi support this thing crash and burn. As for op, are you blind? I said after all other aerial vehicles. OP is all you people say and as a result, there is never new content.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.09.01 13:26:00 - [4] - Quote SGT Garrisson wrote: wont happen too op come 100k armor 20k shields that would take a full team or AV 15-20 mins to kill and a slim change to kill it if its fully manned nothing like a instant win button Please don't post here..... please just go away. Its not worthy explaining shite to people like you. A single tank can take on a 7200 HP Bolas without overheating, I'm saying this is a idea for the future. 10000HP tanks can get molested by 1 av'er so please so say its op. These will be required for domination on full scale large maps, with large players on each side, of bloody course there will need to be dedicated AV.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.09.01 17:15:00 - [5] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: And people thought marauders were OP... Dude, WW1 is over. We don't need a moving barn with guns on it, lets get something smart, like a normal tank with a emphasis on self tank, or spider tanking. Unneeded. If not 100-200 metres on a 5km+ map, what? The MCC is a floating Zeppelin. The lowest it should be is 10-30 metres. Marauders are not OP, and this post was never intent on trying to whisper that. So you want more tanks? Go ahead and add to the boring ground gameplay that lacks skill. I'd like to see you fly a dropship.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.09.01 17:21:00 - [6] - Quote Well, this is just a suggestion, they may take up this idea and work on it, as I said, this a dead ship if left unsupported. It will be under constant fire because of its size, fighters, heavy aerial vehicles, assault dropships.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 55	Posted - 2013.09.01 18:12:00 - [7] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: We already have our Titans; we just don't have the keys yet.This idea is OP as hell, so no. Why don't you ******* go right ahead and say every damn thing is OP, rotten community, OP OP OP OP OP OP. Why can't you people just read everything I wrote!
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.09.01 21:29:00 - [8] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Evolution-7 wrote: darkiller240 wrote: sry to say it but OP op?, 2000 rep a pulse 10 pulses? are you kidding me, without logi support this thing crash and burn. As for op, are you blind? I said after all other aerial vehicles. OP is all you people say and as a result, there is never new content. Uh, guy that is 20k HP per cycle. You could rep yourself from zero HP to completely full with a single cycle. How is that not OP? Dude are you ******* blind? 20k hp in one cycle every 30 seconds, The total EHP for this vehicle is 120,000 it would take just about 4 minutes to rep up fully.......... That's why there needs to be logi support! Tank with Active Heat Sink II can dish out 11,000 damage before over-heating.
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.09.01 21:41:00 - [9] - Quote ToRgUe77 wrote: My question is How exactly would this vehicle be manned? 10-12 turrets. Are you out of your mind? that means over 75% of the whole team would be manning the stupid thing,Who would be capturing objectives. Or otherwise being useful while your lumbering blimp does lazy circles and the stupid blue dots shoot aimlessly from the on board turrets. I would like to see the total number of players in battles to rise to 48, but atm its probably best to keep it at 32 for the sake lag and server issues.Would you like to add a nuke too? ESPECIALLY FOR YOU I REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF TURRETS (MAYBE 10-12 WAS A BIT TO MANY) SORRY IF YOU CAN'T READ AND ARE BLIND SO FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE I WILL USE CAPS LOCK AND UNDERLINE THE WHOLE TEXT. 75% OF THE TEAM INSIDE, IM GUESSING YOUR THINKING THE STANDARD 16V16. ARE YOU STUPID, I CLEARLY WROTE LARGER MAPS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF PLAYERS ON EACH SIDE SOMETHING LIKE MAGS 128VS128. SECONDLY BLUE DOTS WOULD NOT BE HERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED OR THERE ISNT ENOUGH ROOM FOR THEM IN PUB MATCHES, THESE WOULD BE CALLED IN CO-ORDINATED FACTIONAL WARFARE, CORP BATTLES AND ANY OTHER FUTURE PRIVATE BATTLES, THE PLAYERBASE MAY HAVE RISEN ENOUGH BY THEN FOR A AVERAGE CORP TO HAVE 200+PLAYERS ACTIVE CONSISTENTLY WHO WOULD BE READY TO FIGHT ANOTHER CORP OF ATLEAST 128 ACTIVE PLAYERS. THIS 128 PLAYER MODE WILL NOT BE A PUB MATCH, IT WILL BE WHATEVER CCP DECIDES TO DO WITH IT. IM GUESSING CORP BATTLES. SO WITH THE NEW FIGURES OF 4-6 LARGE TURRETS AND NO MEDIUMS, YES IT WOULD BE A SENSIBLE VEHICLE TO MAN. THIS WOULD COME ABOUT GUESSING 5-6 YEARS FROM NOW, AFTER FIGHTERS ETC, THIS BLOODY BEAST MAY EVEN BE TOO BUSY FIGHTING AIR UNITS OFF. Ah, and I hope you read that :D
Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.09.01 21:53:00 - [10] - Quote Ten-Sidhe wrote: MCC was planed to be player controlled eventually. It is the size OP suggested. Trailer showed hull cost of 120 million isk, if I remember correctly. This will not be feasible until we have larger teams, less of map in readzone, better PC mechanics. I'm sure this will one day happen, but will probably be years away. Number of turrets is a bit much, and in closed beta when mcc was mobile it was about 1/2 heavy suit walking speed. Thank you, someone on the same side as me. Yes I changed the turret size to JUST 6 large turrets and I added more on the placement of the turrets.

Evolution-7 the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 61	Posted - 2013.09.02 09:01:00 - [11] - Quote Lightning Bolt2 wrote: Evolution-7 wrote: Just like in Eve Online, you have 4 massive ships that take quite long to build and gather the isk for. I am thinking a large vehicle (aerial class) about maybe 100-250 metres in size and this will only be allowed in large maps. I am guessing this would come after all other aerial vehicles especially fighters, because they will need to help intercept and engage. This vehicle will be extremely slow, half the speed of a tank and it can't hide, like tanks can or dropships in time. If the "titan" wants to survive it needs dedicated logi's and aerial support, infantry can run faster than the "titan". I am guessing that this vehicle must have a base hp high enough, require logi-ships and its own reppers to survive. These ships, should also be able to hold a capacity of around 10-12 players (passengers), who stand in the bay ready to drop when the pilot says. Hull for each faction: 6 large turrets Turret placement: (pilot configurable) Configuration 1: 4 underside turrets with 2 placed on top of the fuselage Configuration 2: 3 underside turrets with 2 on each side of the fuselage and 1 on the top. Configuration 3: 2 underside turrets with 2 on each side of the fuselage and 2 on the top. Underside turrets are placed in different areas e.g: in the centre, on the rear, on the front. Topside turrets are placed in the same areas: centre, rear, on the front Side turrets can be placed anywhere along the side. HP: Gallente: 5% bonus to hybrid turrets per level 20 000 Shields 100 000 Armour Caldari: 5% bonus to missile turrets per level 100 000 Shields 20 000 Armour Amarr: 5% bonus to energy based turrets per level 40 000 Shields 80 000 Armour Minmatar: 5% bonus to projectile turrets per level 80 000 Shields 40 000 Armour I am guessing that with amount of HP, these will have to have built in mega reps (with a higher rep ability per pulse for its prominent method of tanking) e.g. - Gallente (armour tanking) 4000hp for armour 500hp for shield - Caldari (shield tanking) 4000hp for shield and 500 hp for armour - Amarr (armour tanking) 3000hp for armour 1500hp for shield - Minmatar (shield tanking) 3000hp for shield and 1500 hp for armour These would require a small amount of spider tanking going on in heavy engagements. I have always thought that one of these titans-types for dust would be awesome. that's hopelessly OP, but I do see merit to the idea, just reduce size to 30M, HP to 10K with 5K on other, 2 large turrets one on top other on bottom and BLAMO a gunship that will be expinsive, hard to kill, need support, has firepower AND will look awesome (unless mimitar than you'll just be duct taped together) but yet this STILL might be OP. Don't you understand? This is a rare vehicle thats takes long to build and gather resources. Damn man. Not a Gunship, gunships are probably going to come soon anyway.