DUST Search - Why do people say the AR is OP?

Den-tredje Baron wrote:

P14GU3 wrote:

Cosgar wrote:

Keep the AR as is, but I want other niche weapons to beat it inside their own specialty and full nerf immunity when they get to that point.

I think both the AR and MD could use a bit of tweaking. More kick/dispersion for AR and less blast radius for MD. Then I feel they would equal with the ScAR, which needs a bit more range and would be perfect. Subby is straight gangster but no one seems to mind. AFG could use slighty more charge time. Laser needs substantially more range to beat out the AR/ScAR and make up for its laughable cqc dmg. PC is just broken.

My point is. Most weapons needs minimal tweaks to achieve nirvana. I really don't understand all the rage from the community, and why CCP can't get this right..

Damm thought for a second everybody here should go to a mental clinic and get their heads checked because AR and "not very versatile" in the same sentence makes no sense and "MD" and "fine as it is" in same sentence makes no sense either

People cry about the AR because it's the most versatile gun in the game. There's no drawbacks like low clip capacity and low overall ammo (MD and PC mainly here) it doesn't explode into your face overheating because you shoot it to much, and even though it's meant to have a low range it really doesn't have that. The range of it is actually quite far.

When it comes to the mass driver i think most people are going "BWAAAHHH !!!" at it because well people usually do that when they get massacred by one particularly weapon over and over and then the only thought in ones mind is "OVER NERF IT !!".

BUT MD is not fine Straight

Going 1 v1 against a mass driver (with lets say a assault scr) you always know you got the short end. He can jump and dodge your bullets and ofcourse you can do the same. I just doubt it that you can avoid his what 5m ?? splash radius. So he might have a lot fewer bullets than you but his chance of hitting you with splash is around 100% (like fight is within 10m of each other)

So i'm sorry but AR needs worse range and maybe a bit more kick that doesn't go away just by releasing the trigger for a second (last is pretty much for all weapons) and MD needs donno minimum arming range and maybe less shots in clip ?? (but don't change overall ammo as that's looooow)


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Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.01 01:07:00 - [1] - Quote Well I agree the PC needs more power 500 dmg splash hmm not quite, how about 300? And a much larger radius, 8m? The assault forge gun needs a little tweak, but after reading another thread came up with a novel idea, since the assault is designed to be a stripped down version how about recoil that adds a delay between shooting and charging, ala shotgun, of about 2 sec? (Maybe a bit much) LR should have a lower optimum, about 60, and instead of reducing heat build up, operation skill should be faster cooldown to reward pulsing!!
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.01 01:08:00 - [2] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Because they die by it often. Just watch the kill feed. The thing is, and I think I speak for a lot of assault players when I say this, most mercs have had a LONG time to get used to the AR. With that happening, you got people learning the ins and outs of the weapon. So they know how to maximize the usage. I know folks get pissed when they try to hide in that little crack in between two walls only to get headshotted by a GEK user.. I think the argument is basically a cry for help since they haven't found a way to counter it. The AR is not OP It's just that complaining merc's skill is UP Can we apply the same theory to the md?
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.01 11:13:00 - [3] - Quote I thought LR damage was based on heat, not just how long you held the trigger, if you were gonna increase its range to +100m do you not agree a red dot sight isnt really gonna cut it? Well yes the pc is av, but isn't partly ai? If you were to give mag of 2-3 you wouldnt need splash increase, direct damage does need improvememt.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 53	Posted - 2013.09.01 12:26:00 - [4] - Quote Den-tredje Baron wrote: P14GU3 wrote: Cosgar wrote: Keep the AR as is, but I want other niche weapons to beat it inside their own specialty and full nerf immunity when they get to that point. I think both the AR and MD could use a bit of tweaking. More kick/dispersion for AR and less blast radius for MD. Then I feel they would equal with the ScAR, which needs a bit more range and would be perfect. Subby is straight gangster but no one seems to mind. AFG could use slighty more charge time. Laser needs substantially more range to beat out the AR/ScAR and make up for its laughable cqc dmg. PC is just broken. My point is. Most weapons needs minimal tweaks to achieve nirvana. I really don't understand all the rage from the community, and why CCP can't get this right.. Damm thought for a second everybody here should go to a mental clinic and get their heads checked because AR and "not very versatile" in the same sentence makes no sense and "MD" and "fine as it is" in same sentence makes no sense either People cry about the AR because it's the most versatile gun in the game. There's no drawbacks like low clip capacity and low overall ammo (MD and PC mainly here) it doesn't explode into your face overheating because you shoot it to much, and even though it's meant to have a low range it really doesn't have that. The range of it is actually quite far. When it comes to the mass driver i think most people are going "BWAAAHHH !!!" at it because well people usually do that when they get massacred by one particularly weapon over and over and then the only thought in ones mind is "OVER NERF IT !!". BUT MD is not fine Going 1 v1 against a mass driver (with lets say a assault scr) you always know you got the short end. He can jump and dodge your bullets and ofcourse you can do the same. I just doubt it that you can avoid his what 5m ?? splash radius. So he might have a lot fewer bullets than you but his chance of hitting you with splash is around 100% (like fight is within 10m of each other) So i'm sorry but AR needs worse range and maybe a bit more kick that doesn't go away just by releasing the trigger for a second (last is pretty much for all weapons) and MD needs donno minimum arming range and maybe less shots in clip ?? (but don't change overall ammo as that's looooow) Yeah but the dps is low enough to compensate, thats the point you only need a second or so of sustained fire to win!