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Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 740	Posted - 2013.08.31 18:48:00 - [1] - Quote Dear Devs and Members of CPM, At present, two competing schools of thought exist on the topic of Stacking Penalty: The first, Stacking Penalties apply to all equipment having a percentage-based bonus. The second, Stacking Penalties apply only to equipment which explicitly states as such in its description. Your clarification on this matter would be most appreciated. Thank You, Shotty GoBang
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 741	Posted - 2013.08.31 19:09:00 - [2] - Quote To offer example, enormous disparity exists in calculating the affect of Range Amplifiers by these competing schools of thought. The item description of Complex Range Amplifiers does not indicate that Stacking Penalties apply. Maximum Scan Range - Gallente Scout (with Stacking Penalty) Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters Lvl(1) Gallente Scout = +10% = 11.00 meters Lvl(2) Gallente Scout = +10% = 12.10 meters Lvl(3) Gallente Scout = +10% = 13.31 meters Lvl(4) Gallente Scout = +10% = 14.64 meters Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +10% = 16.11 meters Lvl(1) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 17.72 meters Lvl(2) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 19.49 meters Lvl(3) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 21.44 meters Lvl(4) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 23.59 meters Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 25.95 meters 1 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 37.63 meters 2 Complex Range Amplifiers = +39.11% = 52.34 meters 3 Complex Range Amplifiers = +25.68% = 65.78 meters 4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +12.73% = 74.16 meters Maximum Scan Range - Gallente Scout (without Stacking Penalty) Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters Lvl(1) Gallente Scout = +10% = 11.00 meters Lvl(2) Gallente Scout = +10% = 12.10 meters Lvl(3) Gallente Scout = +10% = 13.31 meters Lvl(4) Gallente Scout = +10% = 14.64 meters Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +10% = 16.11 meters Lvl(1) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 17.72 meters Lvl(2) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 19.49 meters Lvl(3) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 21.44 meters Lvl(4) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 23.59 meters Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 25.95 meters 1 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 37.63 meters 2 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 54.56 meters 3 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 79.11 meters 4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 114.71 meters - Shotty GoBang
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 741	Posted - 2013.08.31 19:15:00 - [3] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: I'd go with this one as it is the right one and if it's not then CCP has ****** up somewhere. I am inclined to agree with you, though others may disagree. Hence our present need for clarification.
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 771	Posted - 2013.09.01 22:07:00 - [4] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Nyra Volki wrote: 50% of 10.0 is 5 so were are you getting 16.11 He is adding the 10% of x (new scout base scanning range) each time. Not sure if that's correct or adding them would be. You guys are right (in that I am wrong). If percentage increases applied to new base, than my gk.0 would have 316 CPU ... 250.00 = Base CPU 252.50 = Core Uprades (1) 255.02 = Core Uprades (2) 257.57 = Core Uprades (3) 260.15 = Core Uprades (4) 273.15 = Electronics (1) 286.81 = Electronics (2) 301.15 = Electronics (3) 316.21 = Electronics (4) I do not have 316 CPU. I only have 312. Which can be explained using ... 250 = Base CPU 260 = +4% from Core Uprades (250 * 1.04) 312 = +20% from Electronics (260 * 1.20) The question of stacking penalty remains. I do hope they answer it. - Shotty * Hurries back to the Scout thread to fix our dampening scenarios *
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 771	Posted - 2013.09.02 02:16:00 - [5] - Quote voidfaction wrote: dust 514 Fitting tool uses a different equation base x skill x suit bonus x mod x mod x mod x mod skill lvl1 10% lvl2 20% lvl3 30% lvl4 40% lvl5 50% suit bonus lvl1 10% lvl2 20% lvl3 30% lvl4 40% lvl5 50% at lvl 5 range and scout with 4 complex mods = 99.46113906 You are correct; I've updated the progressions in Thread #3. Assuming no stacking penalty applies, our figures match exactly. Thanks, Void.

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