I'd love to see a list of people that say no.

Guess what? we will still get what we want. The same way you tryhard nerf fiends get what you want is the same way we will all get our respecs.

Don't spec into things you know are broken. That's a pretty basic concept for anyone with sense.

I specced into arnarr logi and scram rifle. I HATE BOTH OF THEM! So yea how is that op or broken? IDIOT!

That makes you look even more stupid.

You spec'd into it. Too bad, I don't even see the problem with the amarr logi, in fact it's been greatly improved.

Did you spec all the way into something without even trying out the basic levels before wasting a ton of SP on the higher levels?

This game encourages for people to think about your actions. Everything has a consequence so don't make hasty decisions and be wasteful when there is something like SP at stake.

Don't spec into things you know are broken/FoTM. That's a pretty basic concept for anyone with sense.

If that's too hard for you I'd suggest Call of Duty: Repetitive Warfare. Instant Gratification Edition.

i think he ment he is just bored of his role^^

You guys just don't give up do you. CCP will NOT give you another respec EVER. If you speced into something you don't like anymore too bad HTFU.

Says the guy with an assault rifle. Go away favored child we don't need you.

I'd like to remove all points from:

Level 5 Assault Rifle Operation
Level 3 Assault Rifle Proficiency
Level 4 Assault Rifle Sharpshooter
Level 4 Shield Regulation
Level 3 Shield Recharging

These skills no longer appeal to me as a dedicated HMG / FG heavy who's aiming to get back into piloting.

I'm not sure how much SP that is, but it's literally dead weight.

The SP system does not evolve with you as a player, rather it limits you by forcing you to stick to old playstyles or to ignore the SP you harvested in the first place.

There is no consequence or weight to your decision past the level of boredom it may or may not instill in you.

Actual I have Prof.5 HMG and prof.3 Forge,Scrambler,AR(don't use anymore too boring) , and Sniper so you shut your mouth.

Actual I have Prof.5 HMG and prof.3 Forge,Scrambler,AR(don't use anymore too boring) , and Sniper so you shut your mouth.

sure like I will believe that. The role I have sucks end of story and its people like you that make it suck. taking away our healer points and capping it. I want a role change.

I've been species into mass drivers for 9 months. If they become the next laser why is it my fault. CCP needs to learn not to bow to the AR 514 way. People don't like the mass driver because its different.

mini rehak is a good heavy.. duno why you think he uses ARs lmoa!

Fine don't believe me but when I kill you in game with a boundless and a charge you will change your mind. How are people like me ruing your role? If you are a logi I am your best friend, sentinel with 700+ armor healing points up the ass man.

why don't you try logi for once?

You guys just don't give up do you. CCP will NOT give you another respec EVER. If you speced into something you don't like anymore too bad HTFU.

Take your head out of your arse and realise that this .. is a GAME ... Just because your some spotty arsed kid who sleeps with the light on and only has 'friends' via the internet and has never been touched by a woman so needs something to make him feel like a real boy and resorts to me use sp in game to kill new players .. 'no respecs or they will be able to kill me and then I wont be able to feel important anymore' .. you're pathetic .. i dotn even want a respec but i couldnt care less if other ppl get a respec .. this game is for fun .. if ppl arent happy with what they have then they can easily choose to not play the game .. which plenty have done so its up to you loser .. feel important for a few months more and watch the game be pulled because it is losing money or allow respecs to retain players and hopefully the game will grow over time ?

Take your head out of your arse and realise that this .. is a GAME ... Just because your some spotty arsed kid who sleeps with the light on and only has 'friends' via the internet and has never been touched by a woman so needs something to make him feel like a real boy and resorts to me use sp in game to kill new players .. 'no respecs or they will be able to kill me and then I wont be able to feel important anymore' .. you're pathetic .. i dotn even want a respec but i couldnt care less if other ppl get a respec .. this game is for fun .. if ppl arent happy with what they have then they can easily choose to not play the game .. which plenty have done so its up to you loser .. feel important for a few months more and watch the game be pulled because it is losing money or allow respecs to retain players and hopefully the game will grow over time ?

Im going to resign agai st respecs that dont involve ccp drasticly (i.e. ge changing) changing or removing skills or items beiond or below their original stats etc im against regular respecs as well as purchasable respecs this is supposed to be a persistant shooter whare your choices matter .

I specced into amarr logi and scram rifle. I HATE BOTH OF THEM! So yea how is that op or broken?

Yeah, tried using the same set up last week...didn't like it. So I only lost a few suits and it didn't cost me any SP.

This game requires some cognitive faculties, which I know scares, and repels a lot of the FPS player base.

I do run around in a logi fit every once and a while, It's only a basic Gallente logi but It gets the job done. I have no problem getting to the top of the server with it. Uplinks, hives and injectors with the CRD-9 assault Scrambler.

I don't see a hamster in your load out. your doing it wrong

Too mainstream.

Thanks for continuing the respec petition. I just want some answer from CCP.

I'm so bored of my heavy suit. I've been playing a lot with my Caldari suit and assault Scrambler Rifle. As Dust Fiend said my heavy-HMG SP are no longer of use to me. I just want to put all my SP into core skills and play with different dropsuits, I don't even care about proto.

-XOXO

I like how Sloth posted "Rejected" and still made it to the list of players who signed.

Also, no more respecs.

There is potential for case-by-case refunds of small portions of a player's SP in certain situations. LIke when a new skill is released with an incorrect description (Vehicle Engineering, for example), or when a skill is changed significantly enough to alter the entire dynamic of how a certain role is played. When new racial AR variants come out, there should be an "opt in" respec for people with AR skills. The same goes for Heavy suits, and Scouts.

But a full respec where all SP is refunded? Nope. And certainly not for legitimate "not working as intended" nerfs or buffs being applied.

Rejected.

Thanks for continuing the respec petition. I just want some answer from CCP.

I'm so bored of my heavy suit. I've been playing a lot with my Caldari suit and assault Scrambler Rifle. As Dust Fiend said my heavy-HMG SP are no longer of use to me. I just want to put all my SP into core skills and play with different dropsuits, I don't even care about proto.

-XOXO

Actually it really doesn't.

Builds are very very basic, and don't require too much thought. The only thing required is the patience to sit through however many matches it takes you to grind out enough SP for that next point. (been playing since May '12)

Just because you call a goose a swan does not make it so.

Listen man I apologize about that out burst. Im just sick and tired of this game shoving me around. You need to put a hamster in that load out.

This entire list is flawed, perhaps intentionally so.
Look at the very second name on the list - Sloth9230. Look at his post in the thread. It reads 'Rejected'. This is a trend that continues, including some people who didn't even post in the thread - Cat Merc, for instance. It also obviously includes alts - Vethosis, Vesosis, SILVERBACK 01, SILVERBACK 02, SILVERBACK 03... Come on.

Putting the names of the people who reject your idea under your supporters is a really ****** thing to do, as is spamming the names of your alts in the list. That invalidates any fairness in your petition.

Yes, this game is supposed to be a persistent shooter in which your actions have consequences. That's what this game was about when it started and it's still about that.

I've noticed since E3 build the player base has gradually grown more whiny and wants everything given to them.

I think the mass of latter people got into this game expecting some casual, simple minded, generic FPS in which everything is handed to them.

This is what New Eden is about, regardless of changes (which I can understand if it's a catastrophic change when something wasn't OP) what choices you make you stick with. Don't make hasty decisions, without thinking, know that different suits and defenses have different playstyles that you can't play the exact same way. I can't tell you how many shield tankers try to operate their Gunlogis like a Madrugar and throw a pissy fit when they get blown up.

This game requires some cognitive faculties, which I know scares, and repels a lot of the FPS player base.

i spoke to cat merc and he wanted it on there.. as for sloth^ the first 100 names are from a thread i didnt do. and they can always message me to remove it

This again? And the list still has many people who actually never supported respecs ever. Just stop it - it's not going to happen.

as for sloth^ the first 100 names are from a thread i didnt do. and they can always message me to remove it

Or you could NOT add names until they've actually signed YOUR thread, particularly when people have provided evidence from the other thread to prove that some of the people listed there didn't sign. That would make more sense than copy/pasting a list then arguing that it's ok to knowingly use falsely-added names because you weren't the one who first claimed they said it.

I specced into amarr logi and scram rifle. I HATE BOTH OF THEM! So yea how is that op or broken?

sincerely signed.

I am speaking to Cat Merc RIGHT NOW and he assures me that he never said this.

[17:04:26] Arkenai: Cat, you're 100% certain you didn't support it yeah?
[17:04:54] A kitten: 200%
[17:04:59] A kitten: I never supported a respec

So you aren't just mistaken, you're deliberately lying.

You're already on there.
Though it'll be interesting to see if you're put on twice, thus making the petition even more invalid.

I am speaking to Cat Merc RIGHT NOW and he assures me that he never said this.

[17:04:26] Arkenai: Cat, you're 100% certain you didn't support it yeah?
[17:04:54] A kitten: 200%
[17:04:59] A kitten: I never supported a respec

So you aren't just mistaken, you're deliberately lying.

i remember i said x up if you want a skill respec in a betamax channel and cat merc Xd up...

UPDATED*

"*updated for ARKENA"
How nice of you. Unfortunately, you've addressed none of the issues I brought up.

EDIT: I suppose adding SILVERBACK 04 and more double posts was your idea of a joke.

well someone doesnt know when hes being trolled

lmfao!

Why don't you just keep keep your heavy/hmg and just start skilling into core skills/dropsuits? I have a decent amount of skills in the AR but I don't use it anymore. I don't want to get rid of it because I might want to use it a few months down the line. What if you get your respec and a month later your like "damn I want my hmg back" so you go and ask for another respec.

Can I take a dump here? [:poop:]

I spread my SP out into a bunch of different things just to try things out, but a majority of my SP is in being a HMG/Forge heavy ..... Don't just jam all your SP's into something and then decide later that you wasted your time and then demand that your mistakes be corrected.... That's the biggest d+¼ck move you can pull in Dust without having to actively play Dust.

So what you're saying is you're never ever ever allowed to change your mind, ever.

No. If you skill into a proto weapon/suit/etc. etc. and then decide you don't like it, or it got nerfed/balanced, don't be a bandwagon, FOTM flinging merc QQing for a respec. Do the smart thing and skill into core stuff, THEN go tinker with all the juicy stuff available.

Besides I bet you have plenty of SP accrued already, so don't QQ.

Or alternatively we're saying that you're allowed to change your mind whenever you have the SP to do so.