AR doesn't require skill. Just hold R1 and swipe your hit-scan death beam across the enemy a few times ??? Profit!

AR doesn't require skill. Just hold R1 and swipe your hit-scan death beam across the enemy a few times ??? Profit!

They require the basic human motor skill of hand eye coordination that is all.

No need for precision, just swipe away! It's so easy mode even the basic starter suits come with it fitted. I'm ashamed of myself whenever I got from my scrambler pistol doing about 12/0 and pick up the easy-I-WIN-button AR and knock out a 22 kdr. It's so easymode even YOU can use it :D

lmao yes i can use it because it so easy than i point and shoot your body... but MD and flaylocks are godmode easy since i dont even need to point at your body to get the hit i just gotta shoot your feet 2 meters away from you....

I'd like to see you hit a moving target at a slightly higher elevation from 50 yards with an MD.

The Mass Driver is the epitome of the phrase " A minute to learn, a lifetime to master", because maining the MD requires you to always manage your optimal range. The MD is the most affected by elevation; your weapon gets a hell of alot better, or a hell of alot worse even with slight elevation differences. Knowing exactly where to shoot above 25 meters without wasting shots is important, especially as a Logi, since you die after 6-8. Then there are the blindshooting tactics to avoid snipers and in PC placing your shots where your allies aren't harmed by them(Assault MD especially)

The MD takes more skill to survive, especially the Assault and Breach. You may can get by with the standard alot of situations, but with the Assault and Breach you're in optimal, or you suck.

Honesty though, skill doesn't matter, weapon balance does. You can complain about getting killed by Ryu's Hadoken spam, good players beat them.

You need to lead shots way more with the MD and take the slow bullet travel time under consideration. Also, on a DPS basis the AR outclasses it hands down.

The AR doesn't require much more skill...it's not as if swiping over a red dot requires a lot of skill, not given the AR's ROF. The AR is just as much a noob tube as the MD.

Real skill weapon? Scrambler pistol!

Not true. With only three missiles in a clip and only 140-160 splash damage (depending on proficiency skill level), every missile has to hit. Unless you are a scout or have not tanked anything for shields or armor, I have to reload and hit 1-3 times more. With only 1.8ish splash damage radius on the *prototype* flaylock pistol, if you are dodging and/or are not at least slightly below me, I am not guaranteed to hit every time. In the former case, you need to dodge and strike me with skill. In the latter case, you have to be smart enough to run away to gain a superior field advantage before attacking me again. In either case, the issue isn't whether the post-nerf flaylock requires skill, the issue is whether you have the skill to counter my weapon of choice.

I think the problem is that so many people have narrowed the definition of skill to down to what their weapon of choice requires. In the end, the mass driver is an area of denial weapon. Using an area of denial weapon skillfully is not about precise head shots, its being able to understand where to find the best firing position, what area the enemy needs to be pushed from, and coordinating with your team so they can take advantage of the change in the field.

Slow fire rate with wicked arch that requires a good eye to aim correctly at anything beyond short-medium range, means it still takes skill to fire, just not head shot precision skill. In close range, you can get hit by your own blast radius. And the blast radius only does 120ish HP of damage, so an opponent with any skill retreats effectively and changes their strategy to gain an upper hand.

I tried using the mass driver for a while and found it too unweilding to get consistently good results (either as an area denial weapon or KDR padder) so I very rarely use it and only then because I'm bored with using my AR. A friend who is more proficient at online fps than me also found it too tricky/frustrating to use so refuses to use it.

since CCP fixed the flaylock it is most certainly a skill weapon so you dont seem to know what your talking about also someone may have mentioned but I didn't see the Laser Rifle up here which is most certainly a weapon requiring skill, yes you AR taks a degree of ability to use but has O downsides, as with every other weapon
AR = EZ mode

If aiming was the only skill to speak of in this game, you'd have a point.

But it isn't, so you don't.

"you simply point in the general direction and fire and it will hit"

So does that make every gun in this game "the least skilled weapon". Give me an example of a weapon in this game where you won't hit the person if you "simply point in the general direction and fire"

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You realize MD already has like 3rd smallest clip and ROF, and the 2nd highest fitting cost.

Do you even dust bro?

It needs a definate splash reduction (-1m like in 1.0,) if after testing we find that isn't enough, then a possible splash damage reduction. TBH the MD is nowhere near what the TAC/Flay problem was. You can't really spam an MD contrary to popular belief. Modded controller spammed Tac, 3 explosion in less than a second from flay? MD issue is that it was made to destroy armor, which is slowest suit, and then has a HUGE radius, making it near impossible to get away.

This is your definition of skill? Accuracy only? Lol to this

AR with it's zero recoil recoil is not a skill weapon, it's like a laser with added damage.

Also, MD's splash is kinda funny as you can away from the said area...

Just in case you mad