DUST Search - About the Flaylock..

Void Echo wrote:

Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out.

When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it.

does anyone else experience this when they are using it?

Do you have any skills into flaylocks? And yeah they're blast radius is quite small now.

honestly no, I was interested in doing so a while back, but then I decided to just buy aurum ones so I could test how it works, needless to say I didn't skill into them. however this time I wasn't even trying to test it, I was just using it up so until it was gone that's when I noticed it.

so it is the fact that I don't have any SP in flaylocks?

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Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1146	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:06:00 - [1] - Quote Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out. When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it. does anyone else experience this when they are using it?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2852	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:07:00 - [2] - Quote The flaylock's splash was nerfed (and rightly so) so it might not be quite what you expected. I can assure you that it's there however - I still aim at people's feet and have some success with the current iteration of the flaylock. EDIT: It's in a much better place now than it was when you barely had to fire in the general direction of the target.
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 461	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:08:00 - [3] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out. When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it. does anyone else experience this when they are using it? Do you have any skills into flaylocks? And yeah they're blast radius is quite small now.
DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 2083	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:08:00 - [4] - Quote Bug, happens on the Plasma cannon too. Also, a lot of shots from the Scrambler rifle fail to register or register blue, usually charged shots.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1146	Posted - 2013.08.30 23:12:00 - [5] - Quote Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Void Echo wrote: Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out. When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it. does anyone else experience this when they are using it? Do you have any skills into flaylocks? And yeah they're blast radius is quite small now. honestly no, I was interested in doing so a while back, but then I decided to just buy aurum ones so I could test how it works, needless to say I didn't skill into them. however this time I wasn't even trying to test it, I was just using it up so until it was gone that's when I noticed it. so it is the fact that I don't have any SP in flaylocks?
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 208	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:00:00 - [6] - Quote CCP nerfed the crap out of it so people would quit spamming the crap out of it. Its important to note that it is no longer an alternative to the Scrambler Pistol or the SMG, it is its own class like nova knives. If you want to use it well, use it like a sniper rifle that arcs and only goes 50 feet or so.
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 371	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:08:00 - [7] - Quote I have proficiency 3 since the start of Uprising I decided from the videos it would be better than the SMG ... it was ... a little too much so. Now it is completely useless ... I haven't caused a hp of damage with it since it was nerfed, even landing shots at someones feet or center of body ... I stopped using it long ago and started skilling SMG again. Dunno if it's lag, hit detection or what, but it just doesn't work now.
THEAMAZING POTHEAD Pure Innocence. EoN. 300	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:25:00 - [8] - Quote You gotta get the proto for a 1.5m splash radius and each level of operation adds 5% splash radius, It's still good but IT IS a sidearm now. Basically you need proto to use the splash radius effectively, and you'll need proficiency 5 with damage mods if you want to use it as a primary. That being said if you have a min assault proto, dual weilded core FPs, prof 5, and 3 complex damage mods, it becomes better than most guns in the game.
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 467	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:26:00 - [9] - Quote Yep it's partially the skills because of what PotHead said.
JETSTORM1090 Against All Oddz 163	Posted - 2013.08.31 01:27:00 - [10] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out. When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it. does anyone else experience this when they are using it? They are very good when you hit people though, jump, get some air and make it rain.

Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 602	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:03:00 - [11] - Quote I was bored with SMGs when that first video came out showcasing the Flaylocks. I went right into the Protos, no proficiency. This, while Shotguns were my favorite weapon. Needless to say, my Shotgun/Flaylock builds are the epitome of trash suits. AR 514, FTW.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 486	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:14:00 - [12] - Quote Unlike the SMG, the weapon sucks without some SP investment in its skills. The ADV still works, the STD versions are trash. -XOXO
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 85	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:22:00 - [13] - Quote Now I am confused. So before, it was everyone complaining about how flaylocks are MASSIVELY OP!! And now they suck. And btw, the standard flay lock sucked BEFORE the patch. It didn't get good until adv level.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 1149	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:38:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Now I am confused. So before, it was everyone complaining about how flaylocks are MASSIVELY OP!! And now they suck. And btw, the standard flay lock sucked BEFORE the patch. It didn't get good until adv level. im not complaining, I didn't skill into them lol, I just stated what I found and saw.
Auld Syne Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 82	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:42:00 - [15] - Quote You need SP (and actually aim) to use them properly.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 197	Posted - 2013.08.31 02:51:00 - [16] - Quote It's great at finishing off shield and hybrid tankers. Among other uses, it can bleed out mercs, disable equipment and, my favorite, ruin a dropship pilot's day
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 371	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:02:00 - [17] - Quote Greasepalms wrote: It's great at finishing off shield and hybrid tankers. Among other uses, it can bleed out mercs, disable equipment and, my favorite, ruin a dropship pilot's day yeah but it takes 2 of 3 in the clip to pop a single uplink or hive !
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 76	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:09:00 - [18] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Bittersteel the Bastard wrote: Void Echo wrote: Iv been using the few million SP I don't have used for the Gallente Assault dropsuit, when I was looking through weapons I wanted to use, I came across the remaining 2 aurum flaylocks I had left from when I wanted to test it out. When I used it I noticed that the flaylock had no splash damage whatsoever, even when the enemy was 1 ft way from the explosion site, he took no damage, the only way I could het a hit and do some damage was to get a direct impact, the direct impact damage did suit the level of the weapon I was using and I have no complaints on it. does anyone else experience this when they are using it? Do you have any skills into flaylocks? And yeah they're blast radius is quite small now. honestly no, I was interested in doing so a while back, but then I decided to just buy aurum ones so I could test how it works, needless to say I didn't skill into them. however this time I wasn't even trying to test it, I was just using it up so until it was gone that's when I noticed it. so it is the fact that I don't have any SP in flaylocks? Each time you skill into the flaylock operation level you gain a 5% increase in blast radius. So in order to become an effective flaylocker you must skill into the operation levels to gain that blast radius levels. Also I run flaylock level one operation levels and I still get effective kills because my shots are dead on or I force enemies into corners than shoot the wall near them. Flaylock is used for finishing moves, when the shield of your enemies are down. They will die very quickly once their shields are down.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 76	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:10:00 - [19] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Greasepalms wrote: It's great at finishing off shield and hybrid tankers. Among other uses, it can bleed out mercs, disable equipment and, my favorite, ruin a dropship pilot's day yeah but it takes 2 of 3 in the clip to pop a single uplink or hive ! hit detection problems which are being addressed in 1.4 also equipment has health of its own so you must do at least 150 of damage to destroy equipment
Chris F2112 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 383	Posted - 2013.08.31 04:36:00 - [20] - Quote The proto version is alright, the other versions are jokes. I'd say they should all get a small splash radius buff, and the lower tier should be brought closer to the prototype version in terms of blast radius. The damage is fine however.



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