I like 1 & 2, but I think 3 is silly.

If you aren't in a proper squad, then you should get teamed up with all the other stragglers. There isn't, however, any good reason to get matched up against another team of stragglers.

The incentive should be for players to put in the teeny tiny modicum of effort required to get into a squad. If you don't, it's your own fault. Losing because you can't be bothered to try seems reasonable to me. If you want to do better, get in a squad and actually play the game.

Actually it's a good idea. If we are so serious about squads, then why is three silly?

The problem is, if they pitted the randoms against full squads, then to be "fair" they would also be teamed with full squads. I'm currently sick and tired of being in matches that are 6 (my squad) vs 16 (the other team) because at the beginning of the match over half my team sprints to a point they can view nearly the entire battleground, takes a knee and snipes or calls in an LAV and drives around in it the entire duration of the match. (Recently had a murder taxi push me off of an enemy CRU 1 tick from having it hacked. A Proto heavy then spawned in behind me!)

My squad and I should not be punished for deploying in proper squads by being teamed up with incohesive random smurfs who fail to contribute anything to winning the battle.

So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.

"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."

At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)

Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.

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So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.

"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."

At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)

Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.

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I think you're confused. If they implemented 1 & 2 then if you're in a squad of 6, you wouldn't be placed on a team of random players. This incentivizes taking the time to get into a squad before getting into the match... which would, in turn, lead to more actual squad play (in a squad based shooter, this seems to me like a good thing).

Squads should be placed into matches with other squads on their team, people who queue randomly by themselves with no interest in playing with others should be thrown onto teams with other people who don't want to play the game as it were designed. I just don't see any reason why the lazy lone wolfers should get a pass on playing good opponents.

I play SOLO ALL the time.
But im playing for the win.
If someone sends me a squad invite i'll squad up,because my 800-1200 WP are going to help that squad get orbital strikes, that at the same time will help my team.
So if you dont care about winning ,then not squadding up is fine.
If you prefer winning, An Orbital strike can usually make the difference.

After the match is done, you just leave the squad and keep at it...

First off I play sniper, I also play Heavy and Logi. What I play determines on the board or how I feel I want to play. Do not bash snipers, I have held off wave after wave of attacking reds at a point to keep you from being red lined. I also have kept forge snipers at bay and other snipers from making your life miserable. If a sniper only gets 2 kills, there are many factors to it. One sniper is playing tag with another sniper and is locked down in an area trying to stay alive or trying to keep the other sniper busy. Two poor sniping positions, I am not going to rush out into the open to make you happy. That goes against the play of a sniper, its like asking a nova knifer to rush a heavy or AR head on. Being a sniper is more than kills, its about stealth and tactics. One tactic is to keep the enemy off balance, hitting them from different angles and causing mass chaos. When they see there friend die in front of them, then another, and then as soon as they hide(BONG) head shot. Person is thinking how and where are they, fear creeps into them with frustration. Now they are angry or scared and they are not thinking of you or the objective. They are now focused on me and when is the next time someone will fall from my shot. I move a lot and because of this my KD/R is sometimes low. I have to find the best play to do the most damage, unlike you I cannot spray and pray I have to pick my shot and make it count. For I may only get one shot, so I have to make it count. Now I do love Domination, its pretty much the only thing I play these days. I do watch others backs and if I am playing Logi I lay down hives and ammo, also I rep people. As a heavy I am a destroyer and all I want to do is make your life miserable. With that said have a good one and hope to see you on the battlefield.

I think you are confused because you said exactly what I said, only in a different way.

Also if you are in an incomplete squad, then being put into the matches with randoms will more clearly allow those randoms to see the benefits of squading up, without muddying the water with a good protostomping - which simply makes random players not consider the reason they lost.

It would also give recruiters a nice venue to to play and screen potential future Corp members.

there is so much wrong with what you posted...perhaps your perception is why you experience this.

I always flank, or cover people hacking... sometimes I do help hack (you know the objective hacks faster when you do this...) because if its a cru or a null cannon in skirmish the quicker its hacked the quicker the enemy stops spawning there...
I agree with you on the snipers though.

I run solo almost all the time and I completely agree with everything that you said. It is amazing how many times that I will hack the objective on a domination match by myself and suddenly see 10 blueberries come out from their rock. They will stomp around the hacked objective like they have taken over the world.

It is down right frustrating how people never go for the task at hand until it is safe for their k/d

You are wrong.

No need to read your post.

You asked, i delivered.

Running solo is pretty much the only way I play. I'll squad up with other people and help protect them either as a HMG or Forge heavy, or I push objectives and keep people repped with my commando. But it's usually 40% for being on a decent, dominating random squad. As long as they're good at the game and try to push for objectives and we're not opposing a team of full squads of corp members that are stomping us with better teamwork I'll pull my own weight.

And hacking an objective with a bunch of people helps in two ways: 1) The hack gets completed wayyyyyyyyy fast. 2) If there's an enemy sniper camping the objective he won't be able to kill everyone fast enough to stop the hack.

Running solo takes away a large advantage for your team no matter what mode you are playing. If your running solo you will not get an orbital.
I am in a fairly active corp so i am pretty lucky that i normally have no problems getting into a game with people from the corp. We almost all have mic's and it makes a big differance in the gameplay. Being a forge gunner they let me know where the tanks are so i can go hunting when one is on the field.
I encourage all blueberries to squad up. 1 orbital can win or loose the match.

So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.

"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."

At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)

Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.

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I guess folks keep skipping the part that states I have experienced this with or without a squad.

It helps to read the entire OP instead of just the first few sentences, ya know.

So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.

"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."

At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)

Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.

Share your thoughts

I read as much of it as was required to provide constructive feedback.

Just so you understand how i read this.
I am running solo as usual (because clearly i dont understand what an oribital is and how they are earned)
Someone is attempting to work as a team and sends me an invite and i experiance a bunch of internal conflict (entire middle section of garbage follows)

Am i the only one here that likes to ignor the giant advantage that orbitals can provide?

I've seen your work before. Looking forward to the next meet up on the battlefield GJR.

Sounds like you are simply trying to lure people into an argument which nobody can even theoretically win honestly where you are trying to prove that for you there is no advantage to squading up. If you want to believe that then you can. However like i said you are putting your team at a potential disadvantage because your warpoints are not getting counted as an orbital. If you want to be a good doobie just squad up with some randoms or make your own squad and try pulling people in and hope you get an orbital.
I dont need to know jack about how you play to know what the disadvantage is when you dont squad up in dust. Even those lazy snipers are contributing more if they are in a squad. At least their warpoints count towards an orbital and especially in an ambush can make a huge diff. In a skirm its a great way to clear an objeective to hack it.

Thanks for the compliment. Let me know if you ever want to squad up sometime.