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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:32:00 -
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So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:35:00 -
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Shame it's like this. When it does work as intended, boy it's an enjoyable rush. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:38:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:You're wrong...
How can you prove that though? Clearly I offered a subjective experience that is shared by others. |
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Posted - 2013.08.30 22:54:00 -
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Well I hope changes to murder taxi and AFK will change this. As it stands now, most of the time it's active team versus a snoozefest team.
I have more fun in Ambush but I gotta work harder to get much SP as possible. Sucks cause if I really want to get into PC, I need to skirm more. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 23:24:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts It's not "just you," but you're clearly part of the problem. Why are you playing skirmish or dom without a squad on mics in the first place? YOU are one of these people that are causing these matches to be clusterf***s. Either: A. get into squads and play the game as the squad based shooter it's meant to be or B. stop complaining about no one being in squads or working together I mean, can you even be any more hypocritical. ffs
You didn't read my post. You only responded to a trigger.
If you read my post, you would see that I say that I play with my corpmates and I've played with complete strangers.
Yet, the problem I'm discussing still happens
So I don't know why you went off on that tangent.
No I'm not part of the problem. Even if I roll by myself (just what if nobody is logged on? riddle me that), I'm intelligent enough to support blueberries, to help a blueberry while in a firefight, to speak on mic and call out enemy positions and locations. You can do that without being a squad you know. I've played games that I weren't even in a squad but the battle reports shows my name as number one player.
Please my friend, don't assume that I just jump in a match and have a fit about it. I'm an good teammate. I know how to play my position when its necessary to support the team.
But it's hard to do when its only 3 guys including myself, actually playing. Not only are you fighting against the opposing team, you're also trying to make up for your teams lack of effort. The rest seems to be eating hot dogs and watching sportscenter. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 23:28:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:I can tell you how to solve this.
Add 2 more player slots in a match making it 18 vs 18 (3 squads of 6)
1. Let Corps deploy Full teams, and match one full Corp against another.
2. If Corps are not able to deploy a full team, then team their 6 man squad with 2 other 6 man squads. Match them against another similar team or a full Corp team.
3. If you are not in a 6 man squad you get teamed with other incomplete squads/solo players. You're opponent will also be other incomplete squads/solo players I like 1 & 2, but I think 3 is silly. If you aren't in a proper squad, then you should get teamed up with all the other stragglers. There isn't, however, any good reason to get matched up against another team of stragglers. The incentive should be for players to put in the teeny tiny modicum of effort required to get into a squad. If you don't, it's your own fault. Losing because you can't be bothered to try seems reasonable to me. If you want to do better, get in a squad and actually play the game.
Actually it's a good idea. If we are so serious about squads, then why is three silly? |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 23:30:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same.
No you didn't read it. You just read the highlights without considering the entire post. Your rebuttal acts as if you understand.
You do not.
You didn't even read my other post in its entirety. You're just looking to be combative about it because you think I'm one of those scrubs who just complain when things don't go their way.
Assuming is not good... |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.30 23:49:00 -
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Okay thank you for your input Baal Roo but essentially derailing my thread with the old man pumping the fist posts.
Let's stay on topic... |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:26:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts I play SOLO ALL the time. But im playing for the win. If someone sends me a squad invite i'll squad up,because my 800-1200 WP are going to help that squad get orbital strikes, that at the same time will help my team. So if you dont care about winning ,then not squadding up is fine. If you prefer winning, An Orbital strike can usually make the difference. After the match is done, you just leave the squad and keep at it...
I think you're not comprehending my posts. I have said that I squad up with corpmates and randoms, yet it's still the same problem.
If you're experiencing great Skirms and Doms...then I'm glad you have perfect matches.
Yet others who agree with me have experienced the same I have. Some things are just not black and white as many of the opposed thinkers suggest.
And I'm all for being in a squad. But lets be honest here. Squads provide extra points for objectives, streamline for precision strikes and coordinated team work.
I can do the latter without even being in a squad. And like I responded to the other guy, I have been a blueberry in a objective based match and came out number one without the help of a squad. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:30:00 -
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calvin b wrote:First off I play sniper, I also play Heavy and Logi. What I play determines on the board or how I feel I want to play. Do not bash snipers, I have held off wave after wave of attacking reds at a point to keep you from being red lined. I also have kept forge snipers at bay and other snipers from making your life miserable. If a sniper only gets 2 kills, there are many factors to it. One sniper is playing tag with another sniper and is locked down in an area trying to stay alive or trying to keep the other sniper busy. Two poor sniping positions, I am not going to rush out into the open to make you happy. That goes against the play of a sniper, its like asking a nova knifer to rush a heavy or AR head on. Being a sniper is more than kills, its about stealth and tactics. One tactic is to keep the enemy off balance, hitting them from different angles and causing mass chaos. When they see there friend die in front of them, then another, and then as soon as they hide(BONG) head shot. Person is thinking how and where are they, fear creeps into them with frustration. Now they are angry or scared and they are not thinking of you or the objective. They are now focused on me and when is the next time someone will fall from my shot. I move a lot and because of this my KD/R is sometimes low. I have to find the best play to do the most damage, unlike you I cannot spray and pray I have to pick my shot and make it count. For I may only get one shot, so I have to make it count. Now I do love Domination, its pretty much the only thing I play these days. I do watch others backs and if I am playing Logi I lay down hives and ammo, also I rep people. As a heavy I am a destroyer and all I want to do is make your life miserable. With that said have a good one and hope to see you on the battlefield.
So you just got stuck at the sniper part? So you don't agree with the idea that if we are losing, snipers should change fits and help out on the ground?
In order to understand what I am saying, you need to put your emotions aside and view it objectively. Snipers do that. It's not a question of if they do or don't. But I have seen snipers just have two kills for an entire slaughter match. They are not even calling out objectives or enemy locations.
If you didn't fall under that category, then why you get upset? Please stop trying to derail my thread for your own personal gain and stay on topic. Make a thread about snipers and we discuss it there.
In this thread I'm discussing what I have experienced as player, solo or within squad, in Skirm or Dom matches that acts as negatives to a match. |
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 00:35:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts there is so much wrong with what you posted...perhaps your perception is why you experience this. I always flank, or cover people hacking... sometimes I do help hack (you know the objective hacks faster when you do this...) because if its a cru or a null cannon in skirmish the quicker its hacked the quicker the enemy stops spawning there... I agree with you on the snipers though.
It is a shared perception. The problem is, if you can't view my post objectively only because in your subjective you haven't experienced this, doesn't mean it does not happen.
You sound like people from the old times who thought the world was flat only because of their sole perception and not due to collected knowledge.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 01:05:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:You are wrong.
No need to read your post.
You asked, i delivered.
LOL!! |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:38:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Running solo takes away a large advantage for your team no matter what mode you are playing. If your running solo you will not get an orbital. I am in a fairly active corp so i am pretty lucky that i normally have no problems getting into a game with people from the corp. We almost all have mic's and it makes a big differance in the gameplay. Being a forge gunner they let me know where the tanks are so i can go hunting when one is on the field. I encourage all blueberries to squad up. 1 orbital can win or loose the match.
I guess folks keep skipping the part that states I have experienced this with or without a squad.
It helps to read the entire OP instead of just the first few sentences, ya know. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:46:00 -
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I've seen your work before. Looking forward to the next meet up on the battlefield GJR. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:52:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Thurak1 wrote:Running solo takes away a large advantage for your team no matter what mode you are playing. If your running solo you will not get an orbital. I am in a fairly active corp so i am pretty lucky that i normally have no problems getting into a game with people from the corp. We almost all have mic's and it makes a big differance in the gameplay. Being a forge gunner they let me know where the tanks are so i can go hunting when one is on the field. I encourage all blueberries to squad up. 1 orbital can win or loose the match. I guess folks keep skipping the part that states I have experienced this with or without a squad. It helps to read the entire OP instead of just the first few sentences, ya know. I read as much of it as was required to provide constructive feedback.
So why is your post centered around the disadvantages of going solo when I stated I do solo, squads and squads with random blueberries and the outcome is the same.
Like I said, it helps if you read the entire OP. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 08:57:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts Just so you understand how i read this. I am running solo as usual (because clearly i dont understand what an oribital is and how they are earned) Someone is attempting to work as a team and sends me an invite and i experiance a bunch of internal conflict (entire middle section of garbage follows) Am i the only one here that likes to ignor the giant advantage that orbitals can provide?
The giant advantage? Truthfully the precision can be clutch or the nail in the coffin. But other than that, the precision is just a killstreak reward. You can still do damage and win without a precision.
I understand that you figure to sell the importance of being in a squad. Trust me, I know and understand that.
But that's not the discussion here. The discussion is based around the problem of players not being "active" within Skirm and Dom matches as compared to the minority of objective based matches that I have played.
Again, its not black and white. You don't squad up and the heavens open up. You can still be in a squad and having yourself playing 6 against 20. Your team members (not squad mates) lack of enthusiasm can still cost the game. Cause you find yourself racing against time since most are nothing more than clone reserve drainers. If the team realizes they can clone your team, they will rush to eliminate the weaker players.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:04:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Sounds like you are simply trying to lure people into an argument which nobody can even theoretically win honestly where you are trying to prove that for you there is no advantage to squading up. If you want to believe that then you can. However like i said you are putting your team at a potential disadvantage because your warpoints are not getting counted as an orbital. If you want to be a good doobie just squad up with some randoms or make your own squad and try pulling people in and hope you get an orbital. I dont need to know jack about how you play to know what the disadvantage is when you dont squad up in dust. Even those lazy snipers are contributing more if they are in a squad. At least their warpoints count towards an orbital and especially in an ambush can make a huge diff. In a skirm its a great way to clear an objeective to hack it.
No I'm not luring people into argument. LOL! Who's arguing here? When you responded to my post, you responded as if I only play solo and because of me not choosing to play in squad, I'm merely putting myself at a disadvantage.
Trust me, I'm not the best but I am a smart player. I know of the advantages of squadding up. Yet, when I have been in squads, I have experienced the same thing.
I feel like a broken record here. This thread was created to see if others experience this problem with or without a squad. Again, everything is not black and white as some as you might imply.
If I wanted an argument, that could have been accomplished with ease a long time ago. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:06:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I've seen your work before. Looking forward to the next meet up on the battlefield GJR. Thanks for the compliment. Let me know if you ever want to squad up sometime.
Oh absolutely, though I prefer going against you. It's good training. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 09:59:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts Now that you are so skilled and good at this game, you could try to help teach new players in your squad how to improve their gameplay. My only issues with skirmish and dom is going against stacked corp squads deploying proto equipment and tanks while being one of 16 randoms on my team. I like going solo and squad up with other random players, to me you are just another random blue dot, not better or worse than everyone else. It is fun trying to work together with 5 other people from around the globe at all ages from the 12 year olds to the 40+ year old gamers. It give me a kick when we manage to work together. You just continuer going easy mode, only squadding with your proto mates and talking down at everyone else. Use you god damned godly skills til teach new players the game and help increase the player count instead of alienating them.
I take it with that hostility in your post we have met before on the battlefield. I hope to meet you again so I can rattle your brain when you realize you can't do anything to stop me from obliterating your opposition into oblivion.
Your name has been recorded in my mental rolodex. Death will answer your call soon.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Take charge.
Short and to the point... |
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:07:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Acturus Galaxy wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So I'm playing Skirmish and Domination. I'm running solo as usual. Someone sends me an invite to their squad. Out of nowhere I feel my fingers type on the keyboard.
"Why squad up? Skrim and Dom is nothing more than ambush with objectives."
At first I thought I was just being a little too cruel but then I realized that was my epiphany about those two game modes. I have played in Skirm and Dom with corp members and random folks. It's still the same. Blueberries don't attack the objectives. Folks just sit behind cover, never pushing forward or flanking. You got 5 people trying to hack an objective but no one is watching their six (Just why in the hell you need more than one person hacking is beyond me). Everyone wants to be a sniper only killing 2 folks per match (I'm sorry but some of you snipers **** me off. If we are losing, get out your hiding spot and help out!!)
Is this just me? I get so pissed that I leave and go play ambush. I can count on my hand how many times I had a good battle in Skirm and Dom. And no, I didn't win them all either. It was just an overall good game.
Share your thoughts Now that you are so skilled and good at this game, you could try to help teach new players in your squad how to improve their gameplay. My only issues with skirmish and dom is going against stacked corp squads deploying proto equipment and tanks while being one of 16 randoms on my team. I like going solo and squad up with other random players, to me you are just another random blue dot, not better or worse than everyone else. It is fun trying to work together with 5 other people from around the globe at all ages from the 12 year olds to the 40+ year old gamers. It give me a kick when we manage to work together. You just continuer going easy mode, only squadding with your proto mates and talking down at everyone else. Use you god damned godly skills til teach new players the game and help increase the player count instead of alienating them. I take it with that hostility in your post we have met before on the battlefield. I hope to meet you again so I can rattle your brain when you realize you can't do anything to stop me from obliterating your opposition into oblivion. Your name has been recorded in my mental rolodex. Death will answer your call soon. Haha, yes, we have met and yes it has usually not been to my advantage. You are most welcome to hunt me down on the battlefield. If you are in your proto squad I will most likely run in BPO scout fitting with remote explosive hoping to get a cheap kill on one of your proto suits. Else I will be in my logi suit providing support for my team. You know, the team I appreciate being part of compared to you whom would prefer playing without any blueberries as you call them.
LOL I like stuff like this!! I tell you what...I will run my milita fit with GEK and Locus. I normally don't run proto unless A) I feel like leveling the odds or B) I just want to have some fun.
And you are welcomed to hunt me down as well. I enjoy friendly challenges. Helps bring out the best in players. Hope to see you real soon. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2013.08.31 10:16:00 -
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Normally its US servers...
Be I will switch to the Euro servers just to hunt you down |
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