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TrueXer0z wrote:

Oh I am gonna get some hate from this one....Sorry fellow armor tankers.

So Just to put this in perspective, I can run both a G. Assault and a Min Logi Proto suit and I am able to fit most proto level mods. So let me get started.

My Current Fit as a Min Logi which I use over my G. Assault.

Stats: 258 / 546 - Shield / Armor
Sprint Speed: 6.22

Weapon: Durval Assault Rifle
Grenade: M1 Locus / Flux / Packed AV

High Slots:
2x Complex Shield Extenders
2x Complex Light Damage Modifiers

Low Slots:
3x Enhanced Armor Plates
1x Basic Armor Plates

Equipment:
1x Compact Nanohives - Would be 2x if I had better fitting skills.
1x R-9 Drop Uplinks
1x Militia Nanite Injector BPO

So, that is a little over 800 total hit points. My sprint speed may seem low, but after you get used to it, it really isn't that bad at all. I regularly am in the top 3 if not 1st in pub matches on my side if I am using this fit, which I rarely do in Pubs. The idea is that I have a heavy tank and still have the room for the damage mods. Which bring my damage up to around 50 damage per bullet. I regularly go toe to toe with heavies and take them down without flinching. I mean literally I cant rush or just stand still and out tank and out damage them.

(Now I say "Per Bullet" because dps is based on the fact that every bullet is hitting the target. When we all know that is never the case.)

This fit allows me to also hold true to my role as a Logi, I may not be using a rep tool, but I still provide fast reps/ammo, Uplinks, and a stick when needed.

Now this brings me to the point of this post. When the changes are made to the armor plates, my tank will not only increase, but I will be running faster then I normally run. Since I still have CPU and Powergrid to spare I can now replace an enhanced plate with a complex and gain that hp bonus and still be running faster then originally. But, for all intensive purposes lets say my fit stays exactly the same. My HP would look like so:

258 / 643 - Shield / Armor - 901 Total HP
Sprint Speed: 6.6

Not a bad buff. Speed looks a ton better, 100 or so HP buff. Seems reasonable. But lets say I was perfectly happy with my speed and that I don't really care about providing uplinks. If anything I could fit a different suit with the uplinks then spawn into the following and just bring a compact nanohive or two. Which cost next to nothing to fit. They also give the second best rep of any nanohive and give you ammo. Yes you can carry only one, but if you are a logi and not fitting any other equipment then you can put multiple in your fit.

Now instead I can fit 3x Complex Armor Plates, and a Basic. Depending on your fitting skills. Mine are all at 3 currently. So I have room for improvement. But, lets go with this for now. Now if I run this my Stats would be more along the line of:

258 / 730 - Shields / Armor - 988 Total HP
Sprint Speed: 6.3**
** give a 1 or 2 more armor points for the 0.** that I didn't fully count
* Still a bit faster then normal

So now my Speed is back to what I am used to and I have almost 1k HP. This however can be augmented by replacing the basic with an enhanced and bringing me back to my normal sprint speed and putting me over 1k total HP. In a logi Suit. All this while keeping my damage at around 50 damage per bullet. Hell, if I get my fitting skills to 5 all around...including my weapon fitting skills I would most likely be able to fit my R-9 uplinks and a basic nanite injecter without a problem.

Of all things I hate to blow the whistle on myself, because I am talking about a class I run with primarily, I couldn't comment on what it would be like for other class type, but I can only see that Armor tanking becoming a bit over powered. Anyway, thanks if you guys read this whole thing. I assume there will be haters out there and maybe I am totally off about this all, but oh well.

-- TL - DR --

Min Logi Armor Tanking OP RAWR!!!


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Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 86	Posted - 2013.08.31 15:34:00 - [1] - Quote TrueXer0z wrote: Oh I am gonna get some hate from this one....Sorry fellow armor tankers. So Just to put this in perspective, I can run both a G. Assault and a Min Logi Proto suit and I am able to fit most proto level mods. So let me get started. My Current Fit as a Min Logi which I use over my G. Assault. Stats: 258 / 546 - Shield / Armor Sprint Speed: 6.22 Weapon: Durval Assault Rifle Grenade: M1 Locus / Flux / Packed AV High Slots: 2x Complex Shield Extenders 2x Complex Light Damage Modifiers Low Slots: 3x Enhanced Armor Plates 1x Basic Armor Plates Equipment: 1x Compact Nanohives - Would be 2x if I had better fitting skills. 1x R-9 Drop Uplinks 1x Militia Nanite Injector BPO So, that is a little over 800 total hit points. My sprint speed may seem low, but after you get used to it, it really isn't that bad at all. I regularly am in the top 3 if not 1st in pub matches on my side if I am using this fit, which I rarely do in Pubs. The idea is that I have a heavy tank and still have the room for the damage mods. Which bring my damage up to around 50 damage per bullet. I regularly go toe to toe with heavies and take them down without flinching. I mean literally I cant rush or just stand still and out tank and out damage them. (Now I say "Per Bullet" because dps is based on the fact that every bullet is hitting the target. When we all know that is never the case.) This fit allows me to also hold true to my role as a Logi, I may not be using a rep tool, but I still provide fast reps/ammo, Uplinks, and a stick when needed. Now this brings me to the point of this post. When the changes are made to the armor plates, my tank will not only increase, but I will be running faster then I normally run. Since I still have CPU and Powergrid to spare I can now replace an enhanced plate with a complex and gain that hp bonus and still be running faster then originally. But, for all intensive purposes lets say my fit stays exactly the same. My HP would look like so: 258 / 643 - Shield / Armor - 901 Total HP Sprint Speed: 6.6 Not a bad buff. Speed looks a ton better, 100 or so HP buff. Seems reasonable. But lets say I was perfectly happy with my speed and that I don't really care about providing uplinks. If anything I could fit a different suit with the uplinks then spawn into the following and just bring a compact nanohive or two. Which cost next to nothing to fit. They also give the second best rep of any nanohive and give you ammo. Yes you can carry only one, but if you are a logi and not fitting any other equipment then you can put multiple in your fit. Now instead I can fit 3x Complex Armor Plates, and a Basic. Depending on your fitting skills. Mine are all at 3 currently. So I have room for improvement. But, lets go with this for now. Now if I run this my Stats would be more along the line of: 258 / 730 - Shields / Armor - 988 Total HP Sprint Speed: 6.3 give a 1 or 2 more armor points for the 0.** that I didn't fully count * Still a bit faster then normal So now my Speed is back to what I am used to and I have almost 1k HP. This however can be augmented by replacing the basic with an enhanced and bringing me back to my normal sprint speed and putting me over 1k total HP. In a logi Suit. All this while keeping my damage at around 50 damage per bullet. Hell, if I get my fitting skills to 5 all around...including my weapon fitting skills I would most likely be able to fit my R-9 uplinks and a basic nanite injecter without a problem. Of all things I hate to blow the whistle on myself, because I am talking about a class I run with primarily, I couldn't comment on what it would be like for other class type, but I can only see that Armor tanking becoming a bit over powered. Anyway, thanks if you guys read this whole thing. I assume there will be haters out there and maybe I am totally off about this all, but oh well. -- TL - DR -- Min Logi Armor Tanking OP RAWR!!! lol with my proto logi fit I run about 5.79. Slower than a heavy. Stacked up 4 enhanced armor plates for maybe more than 700 HP. Don't have alot of skills invested to armor upgrades and such.