DUST Search - The AScR is Terribad

Skyhound Solbrave wrote:

Viktor Zokas wrote:

Skyhound Solbrave wrote:

Viktor Zokas wrote:

Skyhound Solbrave wrote:

lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat.

You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate.

I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion.

Please, I was using it before you were inducted as a clone. The fact you think burst fire is always the only option in every situation and assuming I don't know how to burst fire makes you look like a fool. When you learn how to truly master it, come back to me.

Lolwut? I've been playing since the Battle of Caldari Prime and went Amarr Logi/ScR the moment the rifle became available. If I am able to kill just as effectively with both variant, then its probably you who needs to go back to ScR school.

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Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 1164	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:25:00 - [1] - Quote I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though.
TunRa Ill Omens 97	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote Are you trying to use the AScR like a AR? Because it doesn't have the range of a Ar and is more powerful up close. Also it is most effective against shield tankers (Don't go against a heavy in CQC!).
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1638	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:30:00 - [3] - Quote I have not tried assault, but people have wrecked me with em. But I wreck people sometimes with just my standard SCR
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 699	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:30:00 - [4] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though. The only thing that kept me from using this weapon is the insane RECOIL , that after using AR for a short while i just couldnt handle it (Yup shame on me). The MAIN thing thou was the INSANE FLASH it gives when you are shooting it. I'll be honest ,after 1 game i had to change the weapon,i could swear i was going to have a seizure.....
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1304	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:47:00 - [5] - Quote It's like the AR has variants that are pretty viable. But they give the Amarr a variant that has terrible dispersion. If you use the assault version and don't hold down the fire, but use bursts it's a little helpful. Also I think I've found that if you kneel to shoot it helps a bit more with the spread and hip fire. But that makes you pretty vulnerable. And the dude that says it doesn't shoot as far as an AR is just plain wrong. It's not as far as a TAC AR, but it has a better optimal and much better effective range. But it's dispersion just makes it altogether less reliable
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 702	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:49:00 - [6] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: If you use the assault version and don't hold down the fire, but use bursts it's a little helpful. Also I think I've found that if you kneel to shoot it helps a bit more with the spread and hip fire. But that makes you pretty vulnerable. The problem is you are kneeling and Shooting in bursts while you are eating 60 Duvolle with Prof 5 and 2 Cx damage mods straight in the face, while the enemy is jumping around AND your own weapon blinds you.... uhm....yeah....
Blaze Ashra Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:51:00 - [7] - Quote I remember someone saying it's confirmed to be nerfed but cant find the thread. I didn't get a source either. I hope not though.
Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 1164	Posted - 2013.08.30 03:54:00 - [8] - Quote Blaze Ashra wrote: I remember someone saying it's confirmed to be nerfed but cant find the thread. I didn't get a source either. I hope not though. If the SCR gets nerfed in 1.4 I swear I'm leaving this game for good because that will prove CCP has no effing clue what they're doing.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1610	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:00:00 - [9] - Quote Blaze Ashra wrote: I remember someone saying it's confirmed to be nerfed but cant find the thread. I didn't get a source either. I hope not though. Lies.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 476	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:03:00 - [10] - Quote Muzzle flash is annoying as hell. When I'm up close I just switch to my Flaylock because the gun is terrible at CQC and gets out DPS easily by other guns. -XOXO

JETSTORM1090 Against All Oddz 161	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:22:00 - [11] - Quote The ASR is my main weapon of choice, now is it better than the AR...no, but is it more fun whooping with an underused weapon...yes I don't even notice the muzzle flash anymore because Ive used it so much. You just got to get the feel of the gun, once you do that, the gun will kill many.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 704	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:30:00 - [12] - Quote This is an actual video of me showing the Ascr to My friends, and what happened after i shot the 1st burst: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma1jnwnwGh1r8a2bso1_500.gif XD
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1380	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:45:00 - [13] - Quote I agree that the semi auto is far better then the assault version, but I still use the assault scrambler rifle on the some commando fits. Despite that it's full auto, you're still going to need to be tapping the trigger to make it efficient.
itsmellslikefish DIOS X. II Top Men. 186	Posted - 2013.08.30 04:53:00 - [14] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though. I hate the muzzle flash. Especially in a dark map.feels like it burns my eyes.
Protocake JR Ancient Exiles 581	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:08:00 - [15] - Quote The muzzle flash needs to be toned down by a lot. It creates a "strobe light" effect that makes the frames per second look lower than it really is. This makes it difficult to keep a bead on a target because you will overcompensate and the enemy's movements look more jerky and abrupt. Despite the fact that the AScr has very little recoil, firing this gun makes the frames per second look like it's below 10. Right now it's only useful if you are in a close range confrontation.
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 306	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:26:00 - [16] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though. The problem is hit detection. I did testing and over ~40 - ~50% of the clip will not register the hits. The muzzle flash makes no sense. The recoil is okay, but bad controls makes handling auto horrid.
Skyhound Solbrave Rough Riders.. 203	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:29:00 - [17] - Quote lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat.
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 306	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:34:00 - [18] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate.
Skyhound Solbrave Rough Riders.. 203	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:41:00 - [19] - Quote Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate. I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1442	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:45:00 - [20] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though. Yup anything amarrian focuses on accuracy and damage. This abomination was spawned of Gallentean influence.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1443	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:46:00 - [21] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate. I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion. But you are a dirty Gallentean how could you ever learn how to truly use a weapon of God?
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 504	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:48:00 - [22] - Quote Take your time to learn, it's satisfactory once you are able to use it. Good hip fire accuracy, great magazine, fast reload (for the moment), don't hold fire when ADS shot some controlled bursts.
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 306	Posted - 2013.08.30 05:54:00 - [23] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate. I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion. Please, I was using it before you were inducted as a clone. The fact you think burst fire is always the only option in every situation makes you look like a fool. When you learn how to truly master it, come back to me.
Skyhound Solbrave Rough Riders.. 203	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:01:00 - [24] - Quote Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate. I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion. Please, I was using it before you were inducted as a clone. The fact you think burst fire is always the only option in every situation and assuming I don't know how to burst fire makes you look like a fool. When you learn how to truly master it, come back to me. Lolwut? I've been playing since the Battle of Caldari Prime and went Amarr Logi/ScR the moment the rifle became available. If I am able to kill just as effectively with both variant, then its probably you who needs to go back to ScR school. True Adamance wrote: But you are a dirty Gallentean how could you ever learn how to truly use a weapon of God? That hurts. :( How can you be so sure I haven't converted to the faith?
Rei Shepard Spectre II 476	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:15:00 - [25] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: The muzzle flash needs to be toned down by a lot. It creates a "strobe light" effect that makes the frames per second look lower than it really is. This makes it difficult to keep a bead on a target because you will overcompensate and the enemy's movements look more jerky and abrupt. Despite the fact that the AScr has very little recoil, firing this gun makes the frames per second look like it's below 10. Right now it's only useful if you are in a close range confrontation. I also use Scramblers and the full auto variant cloaks my opponents if they have a tiny tiny bit of shadow on them, the muzzleflash renders them invisible to me, this has me compensating shooting at where i think they are., luckely i can track people behind walls if they keep their current speed. At close range, the spread on the gun feels bugged out, i can line up my crosshair ontop of my opponents chest while hipfiring for the entire time i track him and all my bullets seem to fly passed him, then i swap to SMG and he drops like a kittin thrown out a of 5 story high window. I love the gun and it feels, ok ...but there are a few things off about it i cant put my finger on, i can get the same consistent scores using an Exile AR with no skills vs Scramblers totally maxed out and using the proto assault. The Semi auto variant not included in the above as thats a totally diffrent gun that has allot less issues.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 24	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:15:00 - [26] - Quote I too only use weapons and suits of Amarrian make. Except my SMGs. But don't worry, I have them cleansed many times before I use them, both spiritually and physically.
Viktor Zokas High-Damage 306	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:16:00 - [27] - Quote Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: Viktor Zokas wrote: Skyhound Solbrave wrote: lrnhowtoburstfire. Do you want CCP to aim your gun for you too? Its idiotic that the AR can be consistently accurate by holding down the trigger. The AScR works as intended and if you burst fire effectively, it works extremely well in mid range combat. You obviously don't use the scrambler. Please go try it before you hate. I actually have Operation and proficiency to lvl 5 and use it as my main weapon, try again. I use both the ScR and the AScR depending on the map and I know the AScR works well when you burst fire it. It's your folly for believing that it should handle like an AR clone. Please learn how to use it before asking for a buff, it will make it OP and then CCP will probably nerf both variants into oblivion. Please, I was using it before you were inducted as a clone. The fact you think burst fire is always the only option in every situation and assuming I don't know how to burst fire makes you look like a fool. When you learn how to truly master it, come back to me. Lolwut? I've been playing since the Battle of Caldari Prime and went Amarr Logi/ScR the moment the rifle became available. If I am able to kill just as effectively with both variant, then its probably you who needs to go back to ScR school. I was playing during alpha, before scramblers were even added. Come back to me when you stop acting like a fool with your mindless assumptions.
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 719	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:19:00 - [28] - Quote It's because the Assault Rifle is so accurate at long range, and the Assault Scrambler isn't. Like other people have said, you need to be at close range with it, or kneeling to reduce the spread at range. Oh, and the flash is also super annoying, almost as much as the laser rifle scope right now.
Kage Roth Wolf-Monkey Bastards 47	Posted - 2013.08.30 06:57:00 - [29] - Quote Funny thing is I went 33-3 just a couple hours ago with the proto ASR. I think it may just be you. You have to keep the weakness to armor in mind though and may have to use an SMG or flaylock to help with gallente or amarr suits. The thing chews through minmatar and caldari though.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 201	Posted - 2013.08.30 07:04:00 - [30] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: I just can't make the thing work and I have SCR Operation V, SCR Prof III, SCR Ammo II, and SCR Reload I. Between the insane muzzle flash, horrid spread (or maybe it's me over compensating due to the muzzle flash) and laughable damage to armor, I just can't use the AScR effectively. Semi auto SCR's I utterly wreck people with though. The damage on it is fine. My only gripe with it is the yellow scope with the yellow dot and the muzzle flash. on top of that you have the lousy hit detection. I am sure once they fix the hit detection and change the scope it will be dust's first balanced gun.



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