also funny he should mention this because I had to fight a tank being supported by a logi lav for the first time today. 4 people shooting at it with swarm launchers couldn't break those reps.

Then IDK, do something proactive about it. Recall your vehicle while the enemy is switching to AV. Get a squad to back you up and protect you. Don't go out in the open where there are high places, or don't call in a vehicle on Line Harvest at all.

Same for a tank Sniping behind a mountain in Manus peak.....

In the AV vs Vehicle war, the one with better position wins.
Thats a fact.
Tanks have more speed and more EHP.
Heavies are overall cheaper with similar firepower.

lurch man lets squad up get on dust damn it

we are full at the moment... if you want i will inv you when we get a spot

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LOL similar firepower

3000 =/= 2000''

Bro our weapons are made to take out TANKS.
Your weapons are used to kill 400-1100 EHP infantry and in rare occasions OTHER tanks, which both having the same DPS makes the Tanks Vs Tank Fight balanced....

OR am i wrong..?

because its easier to drive up to a tank in a cherydbis hope out throw 3 lai dais fire 1 swarm and move onto the next tank
youre welcome

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LOL similar firepower

3000 =/= 2000''

Bro our weapons are made to take out TANKS.
Your weapons are used to kill 400-1100 EHP infantry and in rare occasions OTHER tanks, which both having the same DPS makes the Tanks Vs Tank Fight balanced....

OR am i wrong..?

Ted and Lurch must have a hard time with every infantry man invisible firing invisible weapons. Poor ted even unable to comprehend the limitations of his main turrets elevation as he sits at the base of a tower wondering why hes getting shat on.

Easily the most dumb **** idiots ive ever seen on this forum, and thats saying a lot. Really, they need more mods on this forum its hard and annoying to get good indepth discussions of balance with my comrades sitting on the other side of the fence when you got trolls like these 2 dipshits.

Lurch! Quick Question sensei, just wondering if I can pick your brain for a moment. I saw that video you did with Lowratehitman, and I was just wondering. Without being specific about your fit or anything, is it still possible with the current PG restrictions to field a madrugar with three armor hardeners and a rep?

i am of the opinion that no matter how good AV is, i believe i am simplly better than other people and i will kill them anyway. If an enemy team squad leader gets on comms and says, "Guys, focus on that tank" then it should be a very big problem. I would just like to be able to see the guys who are shooting at me. I would like AV to lose money when i kill them instead of just going, "Oh well, that was only 150k isk anyway" I would like for all the people with tunnel vision to realize that a weapon that you can get without speccing into it for av, which homes in, does more damage than most AV weapons themselves, can be fit on any suit, costs 15k isk, and can be replenished faster than you can throw is simply a bad game mechanic and takes the purpose of an AV role away.

Tanks choose between railguns or blasters for AI or AV. Infantry can simply throw lai dais on next to that swarm, ar, md or smg. Oh yeah, swarms lock on too.. We dont have countermeasures, we dont get a lock warning, we no longer can see a charge animation when a forge is charging, we no longer get pg, armor, or shields from any of our skills, unlike infantry.......would you like me to go on?

Yes. Please continue. Especially about the part of not having counter measures.

it takes 15s of continous swarm shooting to kill a well fitted high SP armor tank with proto swarms. what have you done in those 15s? let me guess, you stand still thinking that you should not die, right? and your turrets have plenty of range, there is no need to get close to squads into AV nade range and if you are constantly moving and not camping like a scrub AV nades are no threat.

Okay, I am going to be upfront as possible. I use Lai Dai's and I WILL come after tanks if I see one on the map. That being said, I CANNOT solo a tanker if he keeps moving. Let me say that again. I CANNOT EVER kill a tanker if he consistently moves around the map.

With that being said, you cannot say that my Lai Dai's are OP. You cannot complain about people chucking Lai Dai's from a higher point and dying. My question to you is this:
Why are you in the middle of the map with a tank? Do you see me running my dropsuit in the middle of 16 guys and expect me to survive? No!

Actually it is balanced. There are trade offs. That vehicle can be fit with modules to increase survivabilty, and sp invest can increase hit points. When infantry goes against a vehicle LAV or what ever we fit AV grenades that can only be used against vehicels. That AV grenade can only lock onto its target if its within a certain range. A range close enough for you to run us over, unless we are on high ground. If a LAV or LLAV goes boom and you are aware enough to exit we have to defend ourselves. That Vehicle is actually like having another merc on the field.

Uhh, yes there is...it's called a breach forge gun. And for the cheap price of about 1mil SP and 47k isk you can 2-shot something that costs 9.2milSp and 3.3mil isk.

+75

"Void Echo's Clone Died"

haha such a sweet moment

Honestly though, its no supprise you loose a ton of tanks, when your driving through the middle of the map with a ******* RAIL turret, lmao, how do you expect to kill av with a fecking a rail.....

i shouldnt really have to give you tips, but you should learn2missile

So because you are "one of the best tankers" according to someone in STB you should have a say above everyone else? Kinda like all of the Exmaplecore posts on here should also be so high and mighty above everyone else as well. Some complaints given by him are about how Lai Dai's are too strong.
Do you mean the exact same Lai Dai's that I threw at his shield rail tank that brought him to half shields? Oh by the way...I threw 6 Lai Dai's at him. Yeah....6!

Why don't you just list every possible weapon in this game that can kill a tank and ask for it to be removed from the game. Seriously....
See my above posts for all the stupidity that I see when I kill tanks.

Did I end up killing Exmaplecore in my example? No...because he is a good tanker in this game. But it is down right hilarious to read posts by "good" tankers complaining about the only thing that can actually kill them. If you are a "good" tanker, then you should receive more isk in your tank than you actually lose it. If you run out of isk, then use militia gear like the rest of the people in this game.
But wait...that would mean that you would have to be in militia gear!!! OMG!! Your poor k/d. Wait wait wait....is that the true reason about all of this? You can get more isk by spawning free dropsuits which clears up the isk problem...but your 10.0 k/d would be ruined!!
Nerf all AV WEAPONS! Give me a break...

Ted..good friend... It is just not "TANKS"... people go to "High Places" and try to kill anything... People made these youtube videos teaching players how to do it.... and for some strange reason it ruins the game.... and those same people get a pat on the back for teaching others how to do it...

It was no different when the players was MCC sniping... or even being able to kill people from that location behind their redline.

Spkr calling someone an idiot...BaHa
Keep thrown' them stones and u won't have any house left.

the number one complaint about the MD is that it requires no aim and people think is is the most game breaking thing, yet when it comes to lai dais and swarms they conveniently dont care.

hypocrites