DUST Search - Tank vs AV

echo47 wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

While I don't run tanks (anymore) I can honestly say they are catching the shaft on the AV/HAV conflict you don't need to be a tanker or an av user to know when something is too powerfull AV granades for example are FAR over the line considering what they are : an extremely powerful contact grenade that locks onto it's target. Could you imagine if we had an anti infantry granade that did that? The forums would explode and you know why: because it's BS, anyone who thinks something like that is balanced is wrong in the head period that's not a tactical advantage or a balancing mechanic it's insanity.

Actually it is balanced. There are trade offs. That vehicle can be fit with modules to increase survivabilty, and sp invest can increase hit points. When infantry goes against a vehicle LAV or what ever we fit AV grenades that can only be used against vehicels. That AV grenade can only lock onto its target if its within a certain range. A range close enough for you to run us over, unless we are on high ground. If a LAV or LLAV goes boom and you are aware enough to exit we have to defend ourselves. That Vehicle is actually like having another merc on the field.


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Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1065	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:22:00 - [1] - Quote While I don't run tanks (anymore) I can honestly say they are catching the shaft on the AV/HAV conflict you don't need to be a tanker or an av user to know when something is too powerfull AV granades for example are FAR over the line considering what they are : an extremely powerful contact grenade that locks onto it's target. Could you imagine if we had an anti infantry granade that did that? The forums would explode and you know why: because it's BS, anyone who thinks something like that is balanced is wrong in the head period that's not a tactical advantage or a balancing mechanic it's insanity.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1065	Posted - 2013.08.31 03:34:00 - [2] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: While I don't run tanks (anymore) I can honestly say they are catching the shaft on the AV/HAV conflict you don't need to be a tanker or an av user to know when something is too powerfull AV granades for example are FAR over the line considering what they are : an extremely powerful contact grenade that locks onto it's target. Could you imagine if we had an anti infantry granade that did that? The forums would explode and you know why: because it's BS, anyone who thinks something like that is balanced is wrong in the head period that's not a tactical advantage or a balancing mechanic it's insanity. we did have that once... the forums blew up with QQing from the infantry, as a result, they got removed.... but that only happened because the infantry complained about it, if anything else complains about something, that thing gets buffed Yeah I know but if I start talking about stuff from 'back then' the new guys tune me out lol
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1066	Posted - 2013.08.31 05:45:00 - [3] - Quote echo47 wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: While I don't run tanks (anymore) I can honestly say they are catching the shaft on the AV/HAV conflict you don't need to be a tanker or an av user to know when something is too powerfull AV granades for example are FAR over the line considering what they are : an extremely powerful contact grenade that locks onto it's target. Could you imagine if we had an anti infantry granade that did that? The forums would explode and you know why: because it's BS, anyone who thinks something like that is balanced is wrong in the head period that's not a tactical advantage or a balancing mechanic it's insanity. Actually it is balanced. There are trade offs. That vehicle can be fit with modules to increase survivabilty, and sp invest can increase hit points. When infantry goes against a vehicle LAV or what ever we fit AV grenades that can only be used against vehicels. That AV grenade can only lock onto its target if its within a certain range. A range close enough for you to run us over, unless we are on high ground. If a LAV or LLAV goes boom and you are aware enough to exit we have to defend ourselves. That Vehicle is actually like having another merc on the field. Ok so 1: tankers putting on mods to increase survivability is in no way a trade off or balance, that's like saying the smg is balanced by your target putting on shield extenders. 2: You mention AV nades only being able to take on vehicles (which they should do) like filling that granades spot with an AV nade greatly reduces your survivability, it doesn't. 3:the AV nade has a rather large lock radius and if it does lock is impossible to escape it will literally do a 360 and hit it's target if the vehicle goes past it as it finishes targeting said armor, and as a granades can be thrown (very far I may add) you don't actually need to be in the danger zone to kill a vehicle, I've personally seen mercs throw AV nades over a wall and get kills with nothing but the extremelock on mechanic. 4: you again mention infantry combat as if having an AV nade equipped stops you from fighting unlike say the swarm launcher you don't sacrifice a light weapon slot to use it so what's stopping you from shooting that guy who jumps out of the vehicle in the face?