Two wrongs don't make a right.

I don't understand what whiners want ? Where were you when Cronos had most of MH not because they fought for it, but because they logged on and clicked faster than everyone else ? Where were you when Eon was fighting two alliances (Cronos and Orion) while everyone else was having their stupid pointless wars (HS vs PFBHZ, Unclaimed vs ROFL...etc)

Day 1 of PC, Eon's corps have 1 or 2 districts each, Cronos owned almost all of MH. Eon stepped up and took it from them with little or no help from everyone else. Maybe if others had helped we wouldn't have had all the loot for ourselves.

We simply took Cronos' farm from them and our leaders were kind and generous enough to donate Oddelulf III as a playground for everyone. Imagine all the isk we could have farmed from a 24 districts planet. Ask Dust University what kind of community service the old rulers of MH did them (SI evicted them from PC) , and how Eon gave them one of the very few districts we had back then. Our leaders deserve more respect from the community, and if you can't see that Molden Heath is much better for the community under Pax Eona, then you are blind.

If Seraphim Initiative, Grupo de Asalto Chacal, What The French, Maphia Clan, Academy Inferno, and Betamax can be defeated when they had most of MH, everyone else can be defeated.

And to those asking Eon to break up, it is just like asking NATO to break up because the cold war is over. Not gonna happen.

Again, you want to blame anyone for Eon having most of MH, blame Cronos, because we took it from them.

Very true, first wrong is me logging on the forums, second wrong is me posting.

when in doubt, blame the other guy. most of us care about right now.

Where were you when Eon was fighting two alliances (Cronos and Orion) while everyone else was having their stupid pointless wars (HS vs PFBHZ, Unclaimed vs ROFL...etc)


why were these wars stupid and pointless?

I dont know what your getting at here but it has nothing to do with the current situation.

A lot of us sat down with Mavado and Zatara lastnight in an attempt to correct whats happening in MH.

At this point people on both sides are trying to fix the things that are wrong in MH, and I think players on both sides are tired of the QQ from players that have no clue whats going on.

So until you talk to your leadership and have the correct knowledge of whats happening... Stay out of it.

Where were you when Eon was fighting two alliances (Cronos and Orion) while everyone else was having their stupid pointless wars (HS vs PFBHZ, Unclaimed vs ROFL...etc)


why were the wars stupid and pointless?

In my opinion, a coalition should have been formed back then to stop Cronos from farming isk. But it never happened and Eon had to do it while other corps were fighting eachother. Imagine all corps fighting each other and Rise of Legion is the only alliance trying to do something about Eon owning most of MH.

Demands respect for leaders
Leaders act like twats in public throwing **** fits


You want respect you need to act in a respectable manner, simple as that and none of this "Hey guys, see how nice we are giving you a little box to play in"

Respect is demanded for their actions, and actions do speak louder than words last time I checked.

Yes, and acting like a child throwing a tantrum because people arent giving you the respect you believe you deserve shows that you really dont deserve it
I mean really, this isnt complicated stuff and I would like to believe we are old enough to understand that

Yes, and acting like a child throwing a tantrum because people arent giving you the respect you believe you deserve shows that you really dont deserve it
I mean really, this isnt complicated stuff and I would like to believe we are old enough to understand that

Don't you think you're over-simplfying what you read? Everytime a leader makes a public statement - according to you - they're throwing a tantrum.

I don't know who you're, or who you're referring to. But if you're in FEC, then read post #9. If you're not in FEC then....get the fec out.

When have I said everything they say in public is throwing a tantrum? Now if someone actually spoke reasonably obviously its not a tantrum and obviously it happens but what we have seen in the past few days is tantrums and blatantly obvious attempts at metagaming and while thats fine and the metagaming fits in the style of play supported here its not something that is by default to be respected

Ah this old gem, the "I dont know you get out"
Truly making a case for why you guys should be respected

Leaders act like twats in public throwing **** fits

You know you are acting so trashy for a guy talking about mannerism.



Calling my leaders twats isn't exactly classy, and doesn't demand respect. It actually demands disrespect, exactly what I have given you. Practice what you preach before you go around giving lessons on respect and manners.

Eh I call them like I see them and lets be honest after days of acting as such they give up their right to be offended when called on it and any white knight brown nosing on your part does not change that
And I dont remember saying I was ever the pinnacle of gentlemanly mannerisms but that does not mean I dont recognize them or the lack of them
Devil knows his own and all that

You reek of grieving butthurt eve pilot. I know their style when I see it. I have seen your ilk on eve forums before.
Recognize this, you are a scrub here in dust. And if a devil knows his own whatever the hell that means, then don't be a hypocrite and stop complaining about dust twats if you're a self confessed ****.

Hell pretty much anything Cubs has said in the past few days is either an outspoken or thinly veiled tantrum Sotah

I asked for a quote I didn't aak for an opinion. lol

I asked for a quote I didn't aak for an opinion. lol

If Seraphim Initiative, Grupo de Asalto Chacal, What The French, Maphia Clan, Academy Inferno, and Betamax can be defeated when they had most of MH, everyone else can be defeated.

Just ignore him sota. First he calls the guys twats and don't deserve respect, and the he says he is also a twa t and doesn't deserve respect. Then after acting like a butthurt scrub as a result of our guys' "tantrums" he tells me to relax it is just a game. Don't waste your breath.

ACTUALLY, HS was fighting PFBHz on behalf of Cronos. PFBHz was allied up with Cronos (for the ISK no doubt but still hired so in a way allied) So HS smashing bunnies to irrelevance wasn't pointless they were just defending themselves against Shar.

EDIT- The battles were hilarious on PFB PoV. You had guys like Orin The Freak and BattleCry1rr3l3v4nt screaming THERE ALL OVER HERE! THEY ARE RUSHING OUR POINT!!!!! Would get the whole team to stop pushing Mushroom map and like ONE or TWO guys would be there lmfao! It was quite pathetic. Orin who was one of the first guys to spec into the most OP gun (Core Flaylock) was going 0-11 every single game.

CHEERS PFB! LMFAO! You had CHAR and BOB (THE 2 MOST GODLIKE TANKERS DUST HAS EVER SEEN!) Driving around in Logi lavs during the fights just trying to run people over, lmfao! I have clearly got caught up in the moment. I just thought it was too funny to keep to myself.

erm.. you didnt take all our districts, we gave them away for free to indie corps which EON then took from them, get your facts straight.

I regret posting in this thread.

Yea but it hasnt done anything in the long term for EoN

They are now hated by the community no matter what certain corps have done and it doesnt matter EoN might aswell rollover MH and glass PFC because why not and who is going to stop them

So let me get your version of what happened straight.

1.War breaks between Eon and Cronos.
2.Cronos gave all their districts to indies.
3.Eon attacked indies and took the land SI had so generously given them.

Is that the european version of what happened?


Edit: Delta's posts are removed

So let me get your version of what happened straight.

1.War breaks between Eon and Cronos.
2.Cronos gave all their districts to indies.
3.Eon attacked indies and took the land SI had so generously given them.

Is that the european version of what happened?


Edit: Delta's posts are removed

We (cronos) had 20 districts at the beginning. Then, SI GAC and WTF fought hard, really really hard to gain new districts. You shouldn't lie.
Now you have the vast majority of molden heath, we just couldn't have as much land as you have right now just because we couldn't defend it at anytime, moreover, we lost all of our districts simply because of other reasons, not because we "lost" against you all, but because at a certain poin our own alliance collapsed. People got burnout, people just had severe problems with lag (remember, we're almost all from EU), framerate at that time, others left with uprising.

Don't even try to compare us to you. We didn't hide behind any timer, until some corps in Eon did.

Afaik, Betamax was the only corp Awoxing, and we never "farmvilled" molden heath, simply because we were constantly attacking/under attack.
You know the same thing would happen to you, so you just locked your districts, great move, bravo! What's the next exploit? I'm sure you'll find one.
Indeed, we could be defeated at that time, but simply battles were not fair. PC battles are not fair even now.
Planetary conquest should be veterans endgame. But (at least in my corporation) veterans left because of PC. So don't blame Cronos, blame ccp for really bad mechanics (referring to continent vs continent)

yup thats about it. thats the factual version of what happened.

My friend, I have few comments about what you said:

1. when two powers A and B are at war and B collapses for whatever reason, A has won the war is the way it goes down in history.

2. It wasn't only betamax awoxing, I remember seeing sha kharn and jenza awoxing hellstorm, that's two CEOs of Cronos.

3. First time I heard about locking districts was when Cronos did it during the Eon Cronos war months ago.

4. why do you assume Europeans are the only ones suffering from server problems? and why do you assume we are all in north america? Mavado and lance are in Trinidad and Tobago, Nod Keras is in south Korea, JW Weingarten is in the Netherlands, I am in Qatar, and many more are not in NA.

T&T is NA

Wow big popa, I knew thames, vulga, seine, and danube were rivers in europe. But denial? I thought it was a river in egypt.

My friend, I have few comments about what you said:

1. when two powers A and B are at war and B collapses for whatever reason, A has won the war is the way it goes down in history.

2. It wasn't only betamax awoxing, I remember seeing sha kharn and jenza awoxing hellstorm, that's two CEOs of Cronos.

3. First time I heard about locking districts was when Cronos did it during the Eon Cronos war months ago.

4. why do you assume Europeans are the only ones suffering from server problems? and why do you assume we are all in north america? Mavado and lance are in Trinidad and Tobago, Nod Keras is in south Korea, JW Weingarten is in the Netherlands, I am in Qatar, and many more are not in NA.

No offense to my american buddies, but with such geography you must be american. If this is North America, you need to go back to school son.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

So let me get your version of what happened straight.

1.War breaks between Eon and Cronos.
2.Cronos gave all their districts to indies.
3.Eon attacked indies and took the land SI had so generously given them.

Is that the european version of what happened?


Edit: Delta's posts are removed

I don't understand what whiners want ? Where were you when Cronos had most of MH not because they fought for it, but because they logged on and clicked faster than everyone else ? Where were you when Eon was fighting two alliances (Cronos and Orion) while everyone else was having their stupid pointless wars (HS vs PFBHZ, Unclaimed vs ROFL...etc)

Day 1 of PC, Eon's corps have 1 or 2 districts each, Cronos owned almost all of MH. Eon stepped up and took it from them with little or no help from everyone else. Maybe if others had helped we wouldn't have had all the loot for ourselves.

We simply took Cronos' farm from them and our leaders were kind and generous enough to donate Oddelulf III as a playground for everyone. Imagine all the isk we could have farmed from a 24 districts planet. Ask Dust University what kind of community service the old rulers of MH did them (SI evicted them from PC) , and how Eon gave them one of the very few districts we had back then. Our leaders deserve more respect from the community, and if you can't see that Molden Heath is much better for the community under Pax Eona, then you are blind.

If Seraphim Initiative, Grupo de Asalto Chacal, What The French, Maphia Clan, Academy Inferno, and Betamax can be defeated when they had most of MH, everyone else can be defeated.

And to those asking Eon to break up, it is just like asking NATO to break up because the cold war is over. Not gonna happen.

Again, you want to blame anyone for Eon having most of MH, blame Cronos, because we took it from them.

...but three lefts do...

Oops, thought T&T is northern Caribbean, still there's thousands of islands in the Caribbean...
No need to be an ass about it...

I love the CRONOS "version" of what happened.


It's probably the most hilarious thing I've seen on the forums.

Yep, CRONOS is EU alright, Fabricating reports to negate factual information.
Sounds all too familiar.

awww miahus dude u kno u dont gotta come here to defend anything lol
let the forums say what they want dude

I don't understand what whiners want ? Where were you when Cronos had most of MH not because they fought for it, but because they logged on and clicked faster than everyone else ? Where were you when Eon was fighting two alliances (Cronos and Orion) while everyone else was having their stupid pointless wars (HS vs PFBHZ, Unclaimed vs ROFL...etc)

Day 1 of PC, Eon's corps have 1 or 2 districts each, Cronos owned almost all of MH. Eon stepped up and took it from them with little or no help from everyone else. Maybe if others had helped we wouldn't have had all the loot for ourselves.

We simply took Cronos' farm from them and our leaders were kind and generous enough to donate Oddelulf III as a playground for everyone. Imagine all the isk we could have farmed from a 24 districts planet. Ask Dust University what kind of community service the old rulers of MH did them (SI evicted them from PC) , and how Eon gave them one of the very few districts we had back then. Our leaders deserve more respect from the community, and if you can't see that Molden Heath is much better for the community under Pax Eona, then you are blind.

If Seraphim Initiative, Grupo de Asalto Chacal, What The French, Maphia Clan, Academy Inferno, and Betamax can be defeated when they had most of MH, everyone else can be defeated.

And to those asking Eon to break up, it is just like asking NATO to break up because the cold war is over. Not gonna happen.

Again, you want to blame anyone for Eon having most of MH, blame Cronos, because we took it from them.

"History is written by the victors" Winston Churchill
Am sure Neo Naz+ús have an argument against Naz+ús actually factually losing WWII

Fabricating reports to negate factual information.
Sounds all too familiar.

Day 1 of PC, Eon's corps have 1 or 2 districts each, Cronos owned almost all of MH. Eon stepped up and took it from them with little or no help from everyone else. Maybe if others had helped we wouldn't have had all the loot for ourselves.

We simply took Cronos' farm from them and our leaders were kind and generous enough to donate Oddelulf III as a playground for everyone. Imagine all the isk we could have farmed from a 24 districts planet.
...
Again, you want to blame anyone for Eon having most of MH, blame Cronos, because we took it from them.

You know what? I'm bored, so I'll just correct some inaccuracies in your post. You can keep ignoring the facts as you please, I don't really care, but as much as you make fun of the "european version" of what happened, yours is not all that accurate.

Fact #1: Yes, Cronos took more land than other alliances did at the initial land grab. And then proceeded to fight for and procure more. Districts were lost, districts were conquered and districts were traded for, so saying (or at the very least implying) Cronos bought most of Molten Heath on day 1 and then proceeded to sit on it for months until EoN finally decided and managed to take it all away is just plain silly.

Fact #2: EoN was not the only one to attack and win districts from Cronos. For instance, during some of the busiest times of the Eon v. Cronos war, Negative Feedback was also launching attacks against Cronos. Whether this was coordinated or not is irrelevant, fact stands that Cronos was fighting (and, yes, losing districts to) two alliances simultaneously, not just one. The difference is, N-F tended to sell off most districts they conquered, whereas EoN seemed to mostly just add to their empire...

Fact #3: Cronos also held a large chunk of Oddelulf III, and was in fact actively finding corporations to donate those districts to when EoN was still speaking of selling theirs. EoN definitely was not the only one to support the idea of Planet Fight Club, and EoN most certainly didn't make it happen alone.

Fact #4: The last large loss to Cronos's hold on Molten Heath happened when SI "went into hibernation" and gave away or sold off the 30-or-so districts it was still holding at that point. While EoN quite possibly owns a large number of those districts at the moment, it didn't take them, at least not from Cronos.

I could go on, but even more bored now. Facts are boring, aren't they?

Eon sucks and please tell me how you are going to demand my respect lol

You know what? I'm bored, so I'll just correct some inaccuracies in your post. You can keep ignoring the facts as you please, I don't really care, but as much as you make fun of the "european version" of what happened, yours is not all that accurate.

Fact #1: Yes, Cronos took more land than other alliances did at the initial land grab. And then proceeded to fight for and procure more. Districts were lost, districts were conquered and districts were traded for, so saying (or at the very least implying) Cronos bought most of Molten Heath on day 1 and then proceeded to sit on it for months until EoN finally decided and managed to take it all away is just plain silly.

Fact #2: EoN was not the only one to attack and win districts from Cronos. For instance, during some of the busiest times of the Eon v. Cronos war, Negative Feedback was also launching attacks against Cronos. Whether this was coordinated or not is irrelevant, fact stands that Cronos was fighting (and, yes, losing districts to) two alliances simultaneously, not just one. The difference is, N-F tended to sell off most districts they conquered, whereas EoN seemed to mostly just add to their empire...

Fact #3: Cronos also held a large chunk of Oddelulf III, and was in fact actively finding corporations to donate those districts to when EoN was still speaking of selling theirs. EoN definitely was not the only one to support the idea of Planet Fight Club, and EoN most certainly didn't make it happen alone.

Fact #4: The last large loss to Cronos's hold on Molten Heath happened when SI "went into hibernation" and gave away or sold off the 30-or-so districts it was still holding at that point. While EoN quite possibly owns a large number of those districts at the moment, it didn't take them, at least not from Cronos.

I could go on, but even more bored now. Facts are boring, aren't they?

Awww Ancient Exiles ringing for cronos even on the forums, so cute.

I dont know what your getting at here but it has nothing to do with the current situation.

A lot of us sat down with Mavado and Zatara lastnight in an attempt to correct whats happening in MH.

At this point people on both sides are trying to fix the things that are wrong in MH, and I think players on both sides are tired of the QQ from players that have no clue whats going on.

So until you talk to your leadership and have the correct knowledge of whats happening... Stay out of it.

You know what? I'm bored, so I'll just correct some inaccuracies in your post. You can keep ignoring the facts as you please, I don't really care, but as much as you make fun of the "european version" of what happened, yours is not all that accurate.

Fact #1: Yes, Cronos took more land than other alliances did at the initial land grab. And then proceeded to fight for and procure more. Districts were lost, districts were conquered and districts were traded for, so saying (or at the very least implying) Cronos bought most of Molten Heath on day 1 and then proceeded to sit on it for months until EoN finally decided and managed to take it all away is just plain silly.

Fact #2: EoN was not the only one to attack and win districts from Cronos. For instance, during some of the busiest times of the Eon v. Cronos war, Negative Feedback was also launching attacks against Cronos. Whether this was coordinated or not is irrelevant, fact stands that Cronos was fighting (and, yes, losing districts to) two alliances simultaneously, not just one. The difference is, N-F tended to sell off most districts they conquered, whereas EoN seemed to mostly just add to their empire...

Fact #3: Cronos also held a large chunk of Oddelulf III, and was in fact actively finding corporations to donate those districts to when EoN was still speaking of selling theirs. EoN definitely was not the only one to support the idea of Planet Fight Club, and EoN most certainly didn't make it happen alone.

Fact #4: The last large loss to Cronos's hold on Molten Heath happened when SI "went into hibernation" and gave away or sold off the 30-or-so districts it was still holding at that point. While EoN quite possibly owns a large number of those districts at the moment, it didn't take them, at least not from Cronos.

I could go on, but even more bored now. Facts are boring, aren't they?

Who drug this old thing out of the basement?


Put it back where it belongs!

Who drug this old thing out of the basement?


Put it back where it belongs!

Oh wait, for the record not me, cba to check post dates to find out either.

I already knew it was Vinsarrow.


He was the first one that liked that post and I had already looked.

Lies all of it.... but umm ehh.... *smoke bomb* lol jking I honestly don't know myself all I can say is I happened upon the post while wandering through stuff at random

Lies all of it.... but umm ehh.... *smoke bomb* lol jking I honestly don't know myself all I can say is I happened upon the post while wandering through stuff at random

In my defense I never liked the post or the 1st post that began the topic, besides you all joined & as I said I randomly found it & replied on it besides didn't you all join in as I said, hmmm but that's getting off topic & I already made my stance clear :)

I was still at 2mil sp, so where was you ask getting stomped in pubs thats where.

I know, that's what will make burning you at the steak all that much sweeter, your innocent

Thank you Chronos.

Very true, first wrong is me logging on the forums, second wrong is me posting.