DUST Search - THE FLAYLOCK vs DROPSHIP SITUATION

Marston VC wrote:

SILVERBACK 02 wrote:

Marston VC wrote:

SILVERBACK 02 wrote:

tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS???

its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!!

its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>>

at least theres no damage.

That's what happen when you have a MIGHTY SILVERBACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT. It throws the ships center of gravity off, so while it does cope with it in general, one little tip (like a tip from a flaylock) sends it spiraling out of control. Come on man! its gravity! Just lose a little wait and things will be fine!

such a troll but yeah fair one.. i guess it makes sense lol -_-

For realz though, if your actually driving a dropship, fit an afterburner on it, and even if your nose does get tipped, you can flip on the afterburner and get enough air between you and the ground so that you can recover. Also, flaylock pistols don't have very good aim so I would just try to fly further away from the ground in general.

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SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 166	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:23:00 - [1] - Quote tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7825	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:24:00 - [2] - Quote Why are they flying so low?
Bittersteel the Bastard WarRavens League of Infamy 318	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:24:00 - [3] - Quote It's so funny tho :3
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 22	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:25:00 - [4] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage. Because its a missle?? It does seem a little off though!!
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 166	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:27:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 798	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:27:00 - [6] - Quote hhaha I do flaylock drop ships hoping they crash ..
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 538	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:30:00 - [7] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Are you being serious? Are you possibly drunk? If neither, you're being a ******* idiot.
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 244	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:31:00 - [8] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you. i never needed a dropshit for extraction and i will never do and i never enter them objective B is not far , i rather go on foot that to mount a flying target for a short distance , i hate to die in groups , i rather die alone trying than being stuck in a dropshit with 0% chances to kill someone with those highly moving weapons lol
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 157	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:32:00 - [9] - Quote believe the MD does the same. The rocking on impact in drop ships should be done away with, that or tanks need to start feeling the impact of other tank rounds.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3315	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:41:00 - [10] - Quote They really need to halve the knockback at least, I'll accept the MD doing that to me because it's a damn Grenada launcher, but a sidearm? **** off!

Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 701	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:49:00 - [11] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage. That's what happen when you have a MIGHTY SILVERBACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT. It throws the ships center of gravity off, so while it does cope with it in general, one little tip (like a tip from a flaylock) sends it spiraling out of control. Come on man! its gravity! Just lose a little wait and things will be fine!
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 807	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:50:00 - [12] - Quote sorry what? flay locks don't really work as an av weapon they deal close to no damage to drop ships, and only slightly throw off their aim. I use it as a means of keeping drop ship pilots fighting the controls rather then me, but I never expect to down a drop ship with a flay lock.
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 166	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:51:00 - [13] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: believe the MD does the same. The rocking on impact in drop ships should be done away with, that or tanks need to start feeling the impact of other tank rounds. mass driver does about a third of the kinetic force on impact...
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 166	Posted - 2013.08.28 00:57:00 - [14] - Quote Marston VC wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage. That's what happen when you have a MIGHTY SILVERBACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT. It throws the ships center of gravity off, so while it does cope with it in general, one little tip (like a tip from a flaylock) sends it spiraling out of control. Come on man! its gravity! Just lose a little wait and things will be fine! such a troll but yeah fair one.. i guess it makes sense lol -_-
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 702	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:00:00 - [15] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Marston VC wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage. That's what happen when you have a MIGHTY SILVERBACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT. It throws the ships center of gravity off, so while it does cope with it in general, one little tip (like a tip from a flaylock) sends it spiraling out of control. Come on man! its gravity! Just lose a little wait and things will be fine! such a troll but yeah fair one.. i guess it makes sense lol -_- For realz though, if your actually driving a dropship, fit an afterburner on it, and even if your nose does get tipped, you can flip on the afterburner and get enough air between you and the ground so that you can recover. Also, flaylock pistols don't have very good aim so I would just try to fly further away from the ground in general.
Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 7	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:09:00 - [16] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you. i never needed a dropshit for extraction and i will never do and i never enter them objective B is not far , i rather go on foot that to mount a flying target for a short distance , i hate to die in groups , i rather die alone trying than being stuck in a dropshit with 0% chances to kill someone with those highly moving weapons lol I've gotten plenty of kills as a DS gunner.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7832	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:10:00 - [17] - Quote Every single drop ship I see get low for extraction I made sure never got back up
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 167	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:14:00 - [18] - Quote Marston VC wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Marston VC wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: tell me why is the flaylock pistol still able too shoot down DROPSHIPS??? its a freaking side arm for christ sakee!!!! its hits with such kinetic force that its the eqveulant of 3 forge gun rounds... its physically forces the nose to iether dip into a dive or fling up into a depressed FLIPPER! wannabe like seriously how has CCP goten away with this still>> at least theres no damage. That's what happen when you have a MIGHTY SILVERBACK IN THE DRIVERS SEAT. It throws the ships center of gravity off, so while it does cope with it in general, one little tip (like a tip from a flaylock) sends it spiraling out of control. Come on man! its gravity! Just lose a little wait and things will be fine! such a troll but yeah fair one.. i guess it makes sense lol -_- For realz though, if your actually driving a dropship, fit an afterburner on it, and even if your nose does get tipped, you can flip on the afterburner and get enough air between you and the ground so that you can recover. Also, flaylock pistols don't have very good aim so I would just try to fly further away from the ground in general. we will have to squad up soon bro and share fits^ i prefer the logi dropship myself however the assault tends to shrug off a lot of the kinetic impacts.
Rynoceros Rise of Old Dudes 584	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:18:00 - [19] - Quote Thanks for reminding me to try this. I extend a preemptive apology to the helpful pilots out there.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:19:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Us DS pilots fly low so that we can effectively provide aerial support for ground units. Flying up to the flight ceiling and shooting down doesn't help anyone.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7834	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:27:00 - [21] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Us DS pilots fly low so that we can effectively provide aerial support for ground units. Flying up to the flight ceiling and shooting down doesn't help anyone. Neither does eating an AV grenade down the intake work you guys wonders either.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 541	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:32:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Us DS pilots fly low so that we can effectively provide aerial support for ground units. Flying up to the flight ceiling and shooting down doesn't help anyone. Neither does eating an AV grenade down the intake work you guys wonders either. What's with you trolling pilots? Are you some kind of emo ***** or something?
DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 2033	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:33:00 - [23] - Quote Damon, I have been missing out. New AV weapon!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:33:00 - [24] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Us DS pilots fly low so that we can effectively provide aerial support for ground units. Flying up to the flight ceiling and shooting down doesn't help anyone. Neither does eating an AV grenade down the intake work you guys wonders either. What's with you trolling pilots? Are you some kind of emo ***** or something? What makes you think I am trolling? Did I make you mad (as per the definition of trolling according to CCP's forum rules)?
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2178	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:34:00 - [25] - Quote He's not a pilot, you can ignore him.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 220	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:35:00 - [26] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Every single drop ship I see get low for extraction I made sure never got back up Then by your admittance, they fail at their role as they never get back up? So they need to be looked at. (I am sure we all knew that anyway lol)
Chris F2112 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 374	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:45:00 - [27] - Quote The fact that dropships get knocked around by a sidearm like the flaylock is incredibly idiotic. It needs to change. It's not the biggest problem plaguing the game by far, but it's just a dumb mechanic.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 543	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:48:00 - [28] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Us DS pilots fly low so that we can effectively provide aerial support for ground units. Flying up to the flight ceiling and shooting down doesn't help anyone. Neither does eating an AV grenade down the intake work you guys wonders either. What's with you trolling pilots? Are you some kind of emo *** or something? What makes you think I am trolling? Did I make you mad (as per the definition of trolling according to CCP's forum rules)? Not you bro. The emo *** is IWS. I think he gets a period lol
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:51:00 - [29] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Not you bro. The emo ***** is IWS. I think he gets a period lol That is actually very rude. IWS seems to be a good person and is one of the few people on the forums that actually use logic. I respect him and therefore I disrespect your rude comment.
negative49er the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 135	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:08:00 - [30] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Why is the dropship ads bad

Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 543	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:10:00 - [31] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Not you bro. The emo *** is IWS. I think he gets a period lol That is actually very rude. IWS seems to be a good person and is one of the few people on the forums that actually use logic. I respect him and therefore I disrespect your rude comment. Wait, you're defending this **? lol, you must not know how much he's been trolling since he rose to power.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:11:00 - [32] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Not you bro. The emo *** is IWS. I think he gets a period lol That is actually very rude. IWS seems to be a good person and is one of the few people on the forums that actually use logic. I respect him and therefore I disrespect your rude comment. Wait, you're defending this **? lol, you must not know how much he's been trolling since he rose to power. lol you must not know that in some cases his opinion matters and yours doesn't! And by the way, technically you are trolling if your statement make IWS mad.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 78	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:12:00 - [33] - Quote negative49er wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? Why is the dropship ads bad What are you abbreviating as "ads"? do you mean "aiming down sights" or "assault dropship"?
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 172	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:28:00 - [34] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Every single drop ship I see get low for extraction I made sure never got back up Then by your admittance, they fail at their role as they never get back up? So they need to be looked at. (I am sure we all knew that anyway lol)
Ld Collins The Phalanx Inc 29	Posted - 2013.08.28 02:57:00 - [35] - Quote Silverback why not give the squad lead to someone else? While you fly and when an extraction is needed the leader can put down a rally point and your squad can move to that point instead of landing in a hotzone.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 71	Posted - 2013.08.28 05:07:00 - [36] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? lol indeed but perhaps could be a form of suppression tactics by letting teammates use the mounted turrets by staying within a hovering range.
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 57	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:04:00 - [37] - Quote Yeh it seems kinda odd that even a forgegun cant flip a dropship upside down like a flaylock.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 127	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:24:00 - [38] - Quote Chris F2112 wrote: The fact that dropships get knocked around by a sidearm like the flaylock is incredibly idiotic. It needs to change. It's not the biggest problem plaguing the game by far, but it's just a dumb mechanic. The flaylock is meant to be an AV weapon so, no, it's not idiotic or dumb.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 497	Posted - 2013.08.28 06:26:00 - [39] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: believe the MD does the same. The rocking on impact in drop ships should be done away with, that or tanks need to start feeling the impact of other tank rounds. mass driver does about a third of the kinetic force on impact... The blast kinetic force should do 3 times as much though.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 400	Posted - 2013.08.28 07:51:00 - [40] - Quote Dropships are a joke, why bother with one when a LAV can do the job better plus you can road kill on the way. Another example of dust , the game with a million ideas and no clue how to implement them.

SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 173	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:15:00 - [41] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Not you bro. The emo ***** is IWS. I think he gets a period lol That is actually very rude. IWS seems to be a good person and is one of the few people on the forums that actually use logic. I respect him and therefore I disrespect your rude comment. is this IWS's alt? lmao!
Sigberct Amni Goonfeet Top Men. 101	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:25:00 - [42] - Quote I'm attempting to learn to fly and it's pretty rough. Flaylocks send ships reeling but mass drivers don't? That seems a bit backwards. A mini missile launcher vrs. a propelled grenade launcher. Hmmm. Frankly, dropships are hard enough to control, why do infantry weapons aside from intended AV weapons need to make that harder?
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 260	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:30:00 - [43] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you. Its called jumping out
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 260	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:36:00 - [44] - Quote SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you. Tell them to jump
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 311	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:49:00 - [45] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: SILVERBACK 02 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Why are they flying so low? your kidding right? so how the hell do you expect me to extract my men out of hotspots... 300m fast rope from the ground? jet pack on to my dropship from the ground? sabre.. i expected better from you. Tell them to jump Extract troops from ground while jumping? Ok. They must jump really high those teammates of yours... All I cant undestand is why can I easily keep control after a forge hit or a swarm, but get all sideway or upside down when a singleflaylock in me. Tell me I fly too low IWS. This isn't the issue here. Yes flying low get you in a risky position, but it should be more risky from AV weapons and grenades, not a mini missile launcher. Yet I dont die so often to flaylovk anyway, so I don't really care that much now. But it just don't feel right. IWS, you were definately less of a troll back then, before that CPM thing...loved your informationnal posts, which we dont see anymore. Mostly plain and expected trolling.
Kekklian Noobatronic Goonfeet Top Men. 316	Posted - 2013.08.28 10:54:00 - [46] - Quote The Flaylock has a max effective range of 23M. That means the projectile explodes after 23M. Why is your Dropship within 23M of a ground target? Or are you that noob that tried to get me off a tower with his MLT dropship, only to have me gun him down with a HMG and Flaylock combo?
SILVERBACK 02 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 173	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:02:00 - [47] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: The Flaylock has a max effective range of 23M. That means the projectile explodes after 23M. Why is your Dropship within 23M of a ground target? Or are you that noob that tried to get me off a tower with his MLT dropship, only to have me gun him down with a HMG and Flaylock combo? this kid^
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 311	Posted - 2013.08.28 14:27:00 - [48] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: The Flaylock has a max effective range of 23M. That means the projectile explodes after 23M. Why is your Dropship within 23M of a ground target? Or are you that noob that tried to get me off a tower with his MLT dropship, only to have me gun him down with a HMG and Flaylock combo? What are you doing on a tower with a flaylock and HMG anyway? Telling dropship pilots to learn to fly? lol. Try to use a dropship to get kills, not just once or twice, you will learn that low altitude mean efficient, medium height mean forge gunner range, to the ceiling mean completely useless. Funny how people turn an issue regarding a flaylock explosion creating over reaction on the DS movement compared to bigger weapons to the "your flying too low idiot".


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