but remember their needs to be more corporations to begin with. when 1 corp has everything, game is over.

Seems like a poorly planned logistics issue on tp's part if the goal was to hold land.

Get great team of killers - check
Work on tactics and teamwork - check
Attack almost everyone and win - check
Have a plan for what to do next - no clue

Sorry your first world problems are not mine if you accomplished the first three so well why so flustered by the final step? What is the purpose of a large alliance, what is the purpose of GATT? Why is it so hard to comprehend the only way to sustain your accomplishments is to grow, otherwise you need to start some contraction in your business plan. If that's the case why do it in a chicken **** way like lock blocking to avoid loss before your sales are final. Here's your cake please eat it.

My counter is the entire system is flawed and we should have no timers. I know that the poor little corp will never have a chance in that scenerio and back in march I supported our current configuration. But look now does anyone feel sorry for the poor under 40 person corp anymore? At the moment 40 people (really only 4 or 5 directors) control almost all the content for the rest of us and that is a good thing?

We'd be better off with STB, PRO, GOONFEET, and TEST owning it all and getting their **** kicked in each night and allow their worker bees to take it back every dawn. At least then there would always be a fight. Which would you prefer your current frustration of dealing with the consequences of your appetite, or the frustration of knowing that every day you have an unlimited number of people to attack, demoralize, and wreck havoc on their land, even if it meant they slipped back in like roaches each night when you slept. Seems the later fits your play style more so than your current efforts of farmville.

Look you guys rock it's like watching Vikings come and destroy your village but this whole benevolent landlord thing is BS and you guys suck at it. I know at least 15 people on goonfeet that could run the show you've created, minimze district loss to acceptable levels, and make profit without having to do unfun and unsound practices like pay to attack yourself. Have you considered bringing on a CFO?

So you expect CCP to build a game mode that encourages very small elite level players to dominate a game mode because you guys don't want to split pay checks?

There are a lot of things wrong with PC, but I hope CCP leans toward encouraging corporations to expand by bringing in new players to eventually help them take more territory.

I've agreed with your posts quite a bit in the past, but man this thread is... I really don't know what to call it.

You shouldn't be able to own the amount of land that you own. Logistically it isn't possible. It's taken some time but the players in this game have finally banded together to prove this point.

The game mode is finally working as intended. Now instead of just accepting this you guys are using an actual broken mechanic of PC to attempt to hold your bloated share of MH.

PC needs more regions open

I think what really ruins pc is the actual people's mentality who play and the supposed 'competitive' play which is just noob tubes and grenade spam. Last time I checked competitive was not fotm, it's a mentality and iv barely seen it in dust, just crutch bearers.

On the contrary, I feel that the PC territory control amount is very good.
The amount of districts each corp "can" realistically control scales naturally.
There's no hard artificial limitations, there's no urge to create alt corps to maximise control/gains.
The # of districts is organically greater for large corps and smaller for smaller - also balanced by interest to defend and skill level of corps.


Now what is broken is way the isk gains are constant per each unattacked district. If some entity holds majority of districts, current method (clone sale) just pumps isk into the system.

[SUGGESTION:]
A better method would be to have a combo of the following:
- The goods produced by districts are raw materials of some sort
- Newly conquered district produce less, the longer they are controlled uninterrupted the better the production. They can be interrupted with moderate effort
- Free market sales of the goods (make sure if some entity gets too much production by abovementioned way, the price would fall)

With all due respect mh is worthless space so it makes sense they opened it as a kind of pc beta, of course to filth dwellers it's worth some isk but on the whole mh is worthless.

I was making an observation, there was no point I was trying to make.

I think if eve pilots controlled more of what we do it would be more fun and we would be mercs. Maybe even scrap pc and have it eve side so our eve pilots control it, and half corp built on integration would love this

Theres loads, the whole eve pilots don't care is just fotm trash talk and besides it what the game is about and building towards so noone really has to do anything regarding that because it will happen anyway.

Wow, to be honest I was expecting some kind of opinion against what I stated purely for the sake of it as it seems to be the forum mentality.
+1

People aren't mad. we just want to have fun playing in all the game modes. EoN complaining in multiple threads now about how hard it is to defend all you have taken, boohoo. You can't hold what you wanted, you shouldn't have been so greedy. The war hasn't even been happening for a full week and already you guys are taking to the forums and locking up districts with a fake corp so they can't be attacked. Get more players if you can't handle it all. Or face the consequences of your actions. FEC is coming, hide.

Funny, cause all he cares about is getting XXX amount for a "paycheck" haha. To bad, oh I won't get paid isk to play if we lose all our districts, or I will have to get less and less if we have more people".

Fair enough, and I get your jist. But I don't think even in Eve with a much bigger sandbox anyone thinks or expects to control it all. i HATE when people bring Eve up when talking about this game, but I think it's a good example here.

If someone went through all the trouble of gaining a LOT of sov in Eve because they have a ton of skill, it doesn't guarantee that they'd be able to defend it all. They would probably be burnt out from it.

With people having the appropriate amount of land that they can defend (enough teams capable of defending multiple timers) it would lead to a larger number of corps being involved.

The issue we have now is that in addition to the success Eon has had, you had a LOT of bandwagon jumpers that flocked there. Now those guys may not be participating in PC battles for Eon corps, but they most certainly are not involved in some other corporation that is striving to make their mark.

The sandbox needs some variety. And perhaps there needs to be some mercy for corps that you know can't compete with you. Imagine if Mike Tyson just sized up every guy he ever came in contact with.

This is what we are fighting for. PC was broken for a while. We didn't want to keep our district before. Most didn't. thnis is how TP came to be who they are. They took advantage of a broken system, and profited. Good for you. That's what this gmae is about. Now that PC is mostly fixed, others want back what they once had, or what they want to have. TP can't handle it with 30 or 45 members. tough. Fight for what you have, or decide it's time to get out.

I totally agree with most of your points. This is what allowed EON to be such a great stakeholder to start.

If they had to attack front lines first they would have probably gotten held up. Currently there is no real chock points in MH anyway. Perhaps once they expand on PC it can be a valid tactic, but until then its all pretty pointless. PC needs to have some purpose. Which is what I am looking forward to on FW. I think it will be this games saving grace.

Something I said when they first announced the changes last month

Okay a quick question...
How would your ideal system work in comparison to the current system?
I think you're a smart guy but a detailed plan would do wonders...

Just a few more questions...

I'd assume returning the old corp battles would be a step in the right direction.

but frontline mechanics have issues(lack of a lasting effect,continual defense,etc) but also advantages(don't bite off more than you can chew,allows for fluid and realistic combat,etc)

To some degree I could agree with you point of view. Some sort of frontier to battle (similar than it is in risk) would be great, but there must be a way to beat Corps thats manage to grab enough land to never run out of clones or isk. Just imagine you could restock your frontiers with clones where as the attackers only can attack with 120 clones per attack thats stupid and that way it is nearly impossible to break such "fortifications" and that would hurt the game more than the current crappy implementation.

So yes there need be the need to act more tactical and strategical but there needs to be a "backdoor" so that there is always a way to beat corps in good positions.

BTW I really don't care about your alliance tag