- A forge gun can be fired almost immediately after the first shot
- Yet 2 shots will kill pretty much anyone because it's not hard to aim with something that's a massive ball of energy that blows up
- That's enough to kill 2-4 people
- So?
- Again, so? They'll hide behind walls and the ground below them
- The reticule turns red any time you have a shot, meaning all you need to do is get that giant ass reticule on the speck in the distance to do the splash damage... we're not even discussing direct hits.

now first off I'm pointing this to FG vrs Vehicles because this is where I see its supposed to be used.


the Assault Forge gun DOES need nerfed because its damage stat alone with charge time.
The damage needs nerfed to be weaker than the normal variant to have a real reason to not just use the assault FG.
the AFG DMG needs nerfed to be 200 dmg weaker than the normal variant to have the three choices of - Speed - Dmg-or mix.
Right now its - Speed AND dmg - dmg - or mix, witch would you choose? yes, unless you have no idea what a FG is you choose the AFG because theres plenty of dmg without any real downs.

I have used a forge gun before, thats how I know so much about it. After firing, I am able to immediately charge the second shot. And come to think of it, I think I've seen you up on the top of a building using an assault forge gun before. Sooo what you're saying is just the ignorant bullsh**t coming out of your mouth to try to protect your precious gun, which is probably the only thing you can get a kill with? So, you know, the next time you want to try to counter, you had might as well try to get some better evidence. Your half a page of lies versus my entire post worth of copious amounts of evidence, 99% of which is true, some may be by chance or faltered, since every merc and every shot is different. Now, I'm not going to rack up 2 pages worth of going back and forth with you, because that's just stupid and not worth my time. You'll get your last word, but no one will listen to it.
Except your friends on the roof.

@ Exionous

I've shot LLAvs with 3 shots of an assault FG and they LIVED and then Hide, plus they are so fast that hitting them more than once is pure luck.

I've seen LLAvs take on TANKS, nad guess what? AND WIN.

What you are talking, plasma cannons? LOOOL , swarms? LOOL bro they have no counters .
If you EVEN HIT an LLAV twice with the same weapon is because the driver sucks, and by these standards a Forgunner that sucks can be killed:
by a Scrambler Pistol,Scrambler Rifle,Grenade,Assault rifle of any kind,HMG,another FG, sNiper rifle,Plasma cannon, Mass driver, LLAv, Tank, Dropship, Stationary turret; all 3 types,SMG,Nova knifes,shotguns,flux grenades to the face,Melee,Flaylock pistol,R/E, Proximity mines with a proper trigger, and basically anything that does at least 1HP of damage.

THere by making the whole Original Post invalid >..>

''There's only three ways I've found to kill them:''

YEah well, it depends of the skill of the forge gunner now doesnt it?
Plus i already posted some fixes for the FG's that Forge gunners would agree with. If you dont like them, then HTFU and let Forge guns as they are and deal with it.