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DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 1994	Posted - 2013.08.24 12:30:00 - [1] - Quote What takes up so much CPU and PG? The plates don't even recharge themselves
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1283	Posted - 2013.08.24 12:33:00 - [2] - Quote I never really understood why the plates take a lot of CPU. I understand requiring power to carry it but what computing? Why does a basic armor plate require computing. It's not reactive armor, or even ferroscale. I'm lost.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 862	Posted - 2013.08.24 12:34:00 - [3] - Quote My nerd answer is that it takes more computing power for the suit to calculate movements because of added weight and more power grid to run the joints of the suit to keep it at decent speed. My real answer is that they would be op if they didn't because they would give armor mercs a suit resource advantage.
DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 1994	Posted - 2013.08.24 12:34:00 - [4] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I never really understood why the plates take a lot of CPU. I understand requiring power to carry it but what computing? Why does a basic armor plate require computing. It's not reactive armor, or even ferroscale. I'm lost. Exactly.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1835	Posted - 2013.08.24 12:45:00 - [5] - Quote It should be some for balance reasons but it should also be a very low amount Hell doing that could be something to balance shields and armor One would give a larger health boost for a lower cost but would not repair itself and would slow you down while shields have a higher draw and boost less but recharge
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 543	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:03:00 - [6] - Quote Armor is a measurement of your total nano-machine capability in new eden. As the nanomachines patch up and resist damage, it reduces overall capability of the armor until critical failure. Armor repairers resupply nanomachines to the armor.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1214	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:29:00 - [7] - Quote It doesn't make logical sense but lowering the requirements would allow for dual tanks to use even stronger plates, currently a Caldari dual tank is limited to enhanced plates only.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1837	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:31:00 - [8] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: It doesn't make logical sense but lowering the requirements would allow for dual tanks to use even stronger plates, currently a Caldari dual tank is limited to enhanced plates only. Basic is better and then you only really want 2, stacking more or a higher tier kills your speed and really if I wanted to move as fast as a heavy I would just use the heavy suit
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1214	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:32:00 - [9] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: It should be some for balance reasons but it should also be a very low amount Hell doing that could be something to balance shields and armor One would give a larger health boost for a lower cost but would not repair itself and would slow you down while shields have a higher draw and boost less but recharge This makes sense but it makes armor and shields fit like a lock and key. But if you made shields high requirement and armor medium requirement it would make for a better balance.
DeadlyAztec11 Red Star Jr. EoN. 1995	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:36:00 - [10] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: Armor is a measurement of your total nano-machine capability in new eden. As the nanomachines patch up and resist damage, it reduces overall capability of the armor until critical failure. Armor repairers resupply nanomachines to the armor. I guess that makes sense. Thanks :)

Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz 358	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:38:00 - [11] - Quote It should take less PG to use as well.
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1221	Posted - 2013.08.24 13:56:00 - [12] - Quote It already has pretty incredible CPU/PG to HP ratios compared to shield Anyway, I know all armor isn't technically reactive in dust because it isn't healing. However, there is a term for reactive armor that means its magnetically charged in a way that reduces the effect of incoming rounds. Some modern tanks use it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_armour
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1216	Posted - 2013.08.24 14:17:00 - [13] - Quote An element of explosive reactive armour consists of a sheet or slab of high explosive sandwiched between two plates, typically metal, called the reactive or dynamic elements. On attack by a penetrating weapon, the explosive detonates, forcibly driving the metal plates apart to damage the penetrator. Against a shaped charge, the projected plates disrupt the metallic jet penetrator, effectively providing a greater path-length of material to be penetrated. Against a long rod penetrator, the projected plates serve to deflect and break up the rod. The disruption is attributed to two mechanisms. First, the moving plates change the effective velocity and angle of impact of the shaped charge jet, reducing the angle of incidence and increasing the effective jet velocity versus the plate element. Second, since the plates are angled compared to the usual impact direction of shaped charge warheads, as the plates move outwards the impact point on the plate moves over time, requiring the jet to cut through fresh plate material. This second effect significantly increases the effective plate thickness during the impact. To be effective against kinetic energy projectiles, ERA must use much thicker and heavier plates and a correspondingly thicker explosive layer. Such "heavy ERA," such as the Soviet-developed Kontakt-5, can break apart a penetrating rod that is longer than the ERA is deep, again significantly reducing penetration capability. An important aspect of ERA is the brisance, or detonation speed of its explosive element. ERA was first developed to counter HEAT warheads; which used a shaped charge to create an ultra-high velocity jet of molten metal. The jet's effectiveness derives more from its momentum than its temperature, so the impacting jet must be disrupted quickly as the heat-sink effect of the armour cannot be relied upon. ERA also counters explosively forged projectiles, as produced by a shaped charge. The counter-explosion must disrupt the incoming projectile so that its momentum is distributed in all directions rather than towards the target, greatly diminishing its effectiveness. Explosive reactive armour has been valued by the Soviet Union and its now-independent component states since the 1980s, and almost every tank in the eastern-European military inventory today has either been manufactured to use ERA or had ERA tiles added to it, including even the T-55 and T-62 tanks built forty to fifty years ago, but still used today by reserve units. The U.S. Army uses reactive armour on its Abrams tanks as part of the TUSK (Tank Urban Survivability Kit) package and on Bradley vehicles and the Israelis use it frequently on their American built M60 tanks. ERA tiles are used as add-on (or "appliqu+¬") armour to the portions of an armoured fighting vehicle that are most likely to be hit, typically the front (glacis) of the hull and the front and sides of the turret. Their use requires that the vehicle itself be fairly heavily armoured to protect the vehicle and its crew from the exploding ERA. A further complication to the use of ERA is the inherent danger to anybody near the tank when a plate detonates (disregarding that a HEAT warhead explosion would already present a great danger to anybody near the tank). Although ERA plates are intended only to bulge following detonation, the combined energy of the ERA explosive, coupled with the kinetic or explosive energy of the projectile, will frequently cause explosive fragmentation of the plate. The explosion of an ERA plate creates a significant amount of shrapnel, and bystanders are in grave danger of fatal injury. As a result, infantry needs to operate some distance from vehicles protected by ERA in combined arms operations.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 865	Posted - 2013.08.24 14:20:00 - [14] - Quote I love nerds.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 950	Posted - 2013.08.24 14:24:00 - [15] - Quote Grenades take PG, but standard Flaylocks do not. It's easier if you don't try to make sense of it.
The Robot Devil Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 868	Posted - 2013.08.24 14:42:00 - [16] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Grenades take PG, but standard Flaylocks do not. It's easier if you don't try to make sense of it. The truth will out.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1290	Posted - 2013.08.24 20:32:00 - [17] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Grenades take PG, but standard Flaylocks do not. It's easier if you don't try to make sense of it. Plasma Cannons take 0 PG but take a ton of CPU. I guess that's why they suck currently, they don't have any access to Power so all they do is fire fairy dust to tickle the enemy.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3298	Posted - 2013.08.24 20:55:00 - [18] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: It doesn't make logical sense but lowering the requirements would allow for dual tanks to use even stronger plates, currently a Caldari dual tank is limited to enhanced plates only. Shield tanking really needs to have some kind of penalty that makes it less attractive to dual-tank. In EVE, Shield Extenders increase your Signature Radius, making it easier for weapons to hit you, and Armor Plates reduce your acceleration, and make it harder for you to keep speed while orbiting, and make changing direction sluggish. If you do both, you just die more easily. There is no such balance factor in Dust, and while the ones that work in EVE obviously won't work here, there needs to be something.
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 415	Posted - 2013.08.24 20:58:00 - [19] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: What takes up so much CPU and PG? The plates don't even recharge themselves Because this is a video game and the CPU/PG usage is a video game mechanic.
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 235	Posted - 2013.08.24 21:55:00 - [20] - Quote No logical explanation that I can think of, except for balancing factors...



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