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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.24 12:03:00 -
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Heres a problem with you basing some of this on real life
A RPG-29 from the 80s is still able to penetrate the frontal hull armor of a Challenger II main battle tank, a vehicle with 10 years of armor advancement between it and the RPG-29
So honestly if you want to base tank and AV balance on real life its going to give properly positioned AV players many great ways to bust tanks while the tank itself only gets countermeasures such as flare launchers or Nakidka camouflage to lower the enemies ability to lock on them
I honestly really dont know where people get this idea that real life tanks are impervious to your average soldier on foot if he has the gear for it, I mean its not like we spent decades advancing weapon technology to make destroying them easier and easier which is why they are primarily infantry support vehicles now |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.24 14:02:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Heres a problem with you basing some of this on real life
A RPG-29 from the 80s is still able to penetrate the frontal hull armor of a Challenger II main battle tank, a vehicle with 10 years of armor advancement between it and the RPG-29
So honestly if you want to base tank and AV balance on real life its going to give properly positioned AV players many great ways to bust tanks while the tank itself only gets countermeasures such as flare launchers or Nakidka camouflage to lower the enemies ability to lock on them
I honestly really dont know where people get this idea that real life tanks are impervious to your average soldier on foot if he has the gear for it, I mean its not like we spent decades advancing weapon technology to make destroying them easier and easier which is why they are primarily infantry support vehicles now Ow god you used Support and Vehicle in the same sentence /gasp, you just killed every 12 year old in this game !
In that case I believe I deserve a medal for my pre teen slaughter |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.24 14:38:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Rei Shepard wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Heres a problem with you basing some of this on real life
A RPG-29 from the 80s is still able to penetrate the frontal hull armor of a Challenger II main battle tank, a vehicle with 10 years of armor advancement between it and the RPG-29
So honestly if you want to base tank and AV balance on real life its going to give properly positioned AV players many great ways to bust tanks while the tank itself only gets countermeasures such as flare launchers or Nakidka camouflage to lower the enemies ability to lock on them
I honestly really dont know where people get this idea that real life tanks are impervious to your average soldier on foot if he has the gear for it, I mean its not like we spent decades advancing weapon technology to make destroying them easier and easier which is why they are primarily infantry support vehicles now Ow god you used Support and Vehicle in the same sentence /gasp, you just killed every 12 year old in this game ! In that case I believe I deserve a medal for my pre teen slaughter in real life tanks fill the role of "super long range combat" that infantry cant fit into (outside snipers) int he game they cant really do that. so by your "real life" definition of what tanks should be in the game they shouldnt be doing much of anything, ever, just sitting around lobbing artillery at each other and the ocasional infantry encampment from distances longer than what our redline even alows so care to come up with something relevant to the game we are playing rather than trying to fit things into a real life model?
I can imagine you getting half a stiffy thinking you made a point with all your QQ
Oh look, heres something I grabbed just by googling "tank combat role" and it explains a tanks role in urban combat as infantry support, how about that
Oh and your "Tanks are super long range combat in the real world" falls apart since we have other better and cheaper options to use, granted those options dont exist in this game
Tanks as a bombarding death machine have been on the decline for decades, longer than you or I have likely been alive, and have shifted into a new role
In other words they didnt want to die so they adapted, maybe you should do the same
Inb4 QQ about how you did adapt but still die, or you ironically complain about render distance while being in a corp that exploited the hell out of a true invisibility glitch |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.24 14:50:00 -
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Provide video proof to CCP that is truly is a glitch, that it can be exploited, and can be triggered by the player whenever they please
Thats how you bring stuff to their attention, not by using it to cheat your asses off
So far your "reason and logic" is you whining like a ***** telling people there is this glitch out there most people havent experienced and then making limp dicked thinly veiled threats about how you can exploit it while at the same time attempting to take some asinine sort of moral high ground saying "but we totally wont this time"
And you wonder why I dont take you or anything you say about balance seriously |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.24 15:13:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Provide video proof to CCP that is truly is a glitch, that it can be exploited, and can be triggered by the player whenever they please
Thats how you bring stuff to their attention, not by using it to cheat your asses off
So far your "reason and logic" is you whining like a ***** telling people there is this glitch out there most people havent experienced and then making limp dicked thinly veiled threats about how you can exploit it while at the same time attempting to take some asinine sort of moral high ground saying "but we totally wont this time"
And you wonder why I dont take you or anything you say about balance seriously bugg reports have been filed, just like with invisability. picture evidence was forwarded along with it since video isnt feasable with the tools we have. that was a month ago, unlike the invisable shotgunner spree wich got fixed in like 2 weeks this has been exploited for a few months now, its nothing new. loads of people are aware of this glitch on BOTH sides, and aparently just because YOU havnt heard of it means it doesnt exsist.
Honestly I dont believe you
What I do believe is that render distances inside the vehicle are bad and most drivers get tunnel vision anyway so describe a lot of things as invisible when they arent minus the actual swarm cluster itself since its rendering is handled poorly
I also find it hard to believe that something that has been exploited for months according to you has had no evidence brought to public light in all that time, that all the tankers that have apparently experienced it for months have waited until the past few weeks to start bringing it up en masse, and that for months and hundreds of matches played with thousands of players that not one single time that I have gone Av hunting have I encountered this bug that is being widely exploited according to you
Bring some proof if you want to make these claims otherwise its easy as hell to shoot down and exposes the weakness of your position, especially since its all you keep restating
Edit: Taking off in like 15 minutes, got laundry to do and a new sink faucet to install and other things to do today |
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