So my question is does CCP plan on making the maps use multiple sockets?

If so how many could you iterate at once as a rough guess?

Could you use the entire map?

Can the sockets interact with eachother ie. a sky bridge or a simple pipe running from one SI to the next?

Is it posible to move sockets around?

And finally Can you increase the socket sizes without causeing any problems?

Thank you any answers would be nice.

As a player? Or as a dev? We place the sockets where want them. If we need to move one, we will. But typically once one is down, it shouldn't be moved by us unless it needs to be. So this most likely would not happen.

CCP LogicLoop, you forgot Ashland. AFAIK, it has 0 sockets. ;)

So my question is does CCP plan on making the maps use multiple sockets?

If so how many could you iterate at once as a rough guess?

Can the sockets interact with eachother ie. a sky bridge or a simple pipe running from one SI to the next?

Is it posible to move sockets around?

And finally Can you increase the socket sizes without causeing any problems?

CCP LogicLoop, you forgot Ashland. AFAIK, it has 0 sockets. ;)

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1. i actually ment multiple large SI ie. a orbital artillery large socket and a communication large socket.
2. i ment how many large or medium sockets (don't care much about small) SI could be on a map at once without causeing problems.
4. aww thats disappointing
5. i wanted to know if sockets were in different locations on the same map (depending on the planets ) or same locations on different maps. it seems like we always play on the same corner of the map everytime just with different SI. thought it would add variety if sockets would change location around the map so we can use the mountains and plains that we always see in the background.
6. ok thanks
7.

So by being unable to use more than 1 large socket on your terrains, this would mean that the vision CCP had regarding have a MCC travel from one region of the terrain to the other impossible no? Unless you put everyone in the MCC and load the next part of the map (which would effectively be loading a new battle)

2. I am not a 100 percent sure on the amount. But for every one of them loaded, even in its lowest LOD is taking up more memory. We typically done have more than 4 mediums I have seen, and of course 1 large. I have been told never use more than 1 large.

Currently yes. Though eventually this could probably work. It would be a matter of how things are loaded up.

Ultimately it is most likely possible given they are far enough apart. The issue is, they have a very LARGE radius on where the high LOD loads up. If those two radii touch, then it will be too much. They just can not touch.

Ultimately it is most likely possible given they are far enough apart. The issue is, they have a very LARGE radius on where the high LOD loads up. If those two radii touch, then it will be too much. They just can not touch.

Maps do use multiple sockets. They are all over the place. Most (notice, most, not all) geometry you see is in sockets. Except for Line Harvest and Manus Peak.


I am not sure I understand this question. Are you asking how many can we make?


Not really.


Think of the socket as a static object that loads in other objects inside of it. So we have three fixed sizes of sockets. Large, Medium, and Small. We could increase or decrease the size, but that would mean replacing the socket with a socket of another size. We can not change the size of them specifically in a dynamic way. The closest way we could simulate that is to use a large socket, then have various large sockets built to be the size of the other smaller size

1. i actually ment multiple large SI ie. a orbital artillery large socket and a communication large socket.
2. i ment how many large or medium sockets (don't care much about small) SI could be on a map at once without causeing problems.
4. aww thats disappointing
5. i wanted to know if sockets were in different locations on the same map (depending on the planets ) or same locations on different maps. it seems like we always play on the same corner of the map everytime just with different SI. thought it would add variety if sockets would change location around the map so we can use the mountains and plains that we always see in the background.
6. ok thanks
7.

Ultimately it is most likely possible given they are far enough apart. The issue is, they have a very LARGE radius on where the high LOD loads up. If those two radii touch, then it will be too much. They just can not touch.

Ultimately it is most likely possible given they are far enough apart. The issue is, they have a very LARGE radius on where the high LOD loads up. If those two radii touch, then it will be too much. They just can not touch.

Interesting. Does that apply for Large sockets as well?

Thats what we are talking about. Large sockets. Well all sockets. The bigger the socket, the larger the radius is for when it begins to load in / out the high detail versions.

OH I'm hearing good stuff... by the way is this a recant discovery or did yal already know this but were figuring out the best way to implement it in game.

So it's a RAM shortage problem then?

Yes. Outside of just the geometry you see, it also takes into account lights, fx, collisions, physx, animations, character models, textures, etc etc. A lot of stuff is actually loaded. And the low LOD is also still taking up some memory obviously. Just not nearly as much as a fully loaded area.

If it's already an issue now, does that bode poorly for adding 2x Dropships, 2xLAVs, 2x HAVs, 3x Heavies, and 2x scouts just to finish out the current set? To say nothing of speeders, etc...

Yes. Outside of just the geometry you see, it also takes into account lights, fx, collisions, physx, animations, character models, textures, etc etc. A lot of stuff is actually loaded. And the low LOD is also still taking up some memory obviously. Just not nearly as much as a fully loaded area.

I'm sure this already part of some five year future goal but I have to ask:

What would the complications be with seamlessly loading 'zones' by proximity like some Console MMO's (Everquest Online Adventures for the PS2 being a good example) in terms of the different maps in Dust 514? They're mostly on the same map as is, just needs the sockets to load up - so would that potentially be a better alternative to having everything take place on one large map?

http://i.imgur.com/cuOuN8q.jpg

Its all the same map when we talk about the planets. Plateaus, Craters, Mountains, etc. So its technically feasible to do. We would just need to code in that kind of support for loading up the other game mode areas as you travel from each.

Each game mode level Skirmish, Ambush, OMS, Domination are their own levels that are loaded on start of the battle. But they mainly hold the entity data. However, in some cases static meshes vary from each game mode in the same game mode area. So a little dancing around of what is intended would have to happen.