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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:28:00 -
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make a version of the Assault scrambler rifle availible at STD level. make it weaker by about 20% less ammo, and 20% less damage. but put it at the same price ISK as the regular scrambler rilfe and make it STD.
at least give us Scrambler users another Option. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
715
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:29:00 -
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I'd stop speccing into them.. they are buffing armor in the next patch. Unless you are good with the charged single shot the weapon will get dominated. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
653
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:34:00 -
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armor isnt getting that bigg a buff. and the assault scrambler is pretty decent. its just stupid that i dont have aSTD variant of it. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:35:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:armor isnt getting that bigg a buff. and the assault scrambler is pretty decent. its just stupid that i dont have aSTD variant of it.
lol don't say I didn't warn you... and yes they are getting that big of a buff.
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
653
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:37:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:D legendary hero wrote:armor isnt getting that bigg a buff. and the assault scrambler is pretty decent. its just stupid that i dont have aSTD variant of it. lol don't say I didn't warn you... and yes they are getting that big of a buff.
basic plates going to 85 from 65, i think the other ones are getting other slight bonuses. the buff isn't that big in the HP department.
the movement penalty is a bigger consideration, however, all movement speed will be getting a nerfed by 90% side to side.
since aim assist is getting fixed if you werent a deadshot now you wil be then. its nothing to worry about. actually your galente, you should be happy |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
221
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:45:00 -
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I think it's fairly clear from looking at other weapons, that variant weapons turn up at Operation IV. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:46:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:I think it's fairly clear from looking at other weapons, that variant weapons turn up at Operation IV.
AR gets breach at STD,
HMG gets assault at STD,
in fact most weapons get variants at lvl3. and may at lvl1.
try again, |
killian178
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:42:00 -
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The assault scram is the only scram I'll use, it's on a commando w AR, good combo, but way to expensive to run all the time, which is a shame. |
Tal-Rakken
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:51:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:I think it's fairly clear from looking at other weapons, that variant weapons turn up at Operation IV. AR gets breach at STD, HMG gets assault at STD, in fact most weapons get variants at lvl3. and may at lvl1. try again,
i believe you meant at lvl2 and lvl 4, as for more variants i'd rather see them release the combat rifle and the other suits we're missing than working on more variants of the weapons we already have. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1426
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:53:00 -
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I'll go one further - all weapon variants should have a standard level version available. I want to use a burst scrambler pistol without going up to ADV due to fitting costs. |
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Viktor Zokas
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:58:00 -
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I am still waiting for the breach, and the burst scram
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Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
652
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:25:00 -
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Just let us have all our variants at level two again.
It was dumb on CCP to make us have to invest half mil SP just to use something special. |
Zan Azikuchi
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
2
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:45:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:make a version of the Assault scrambler rifle availible at STD level. make it weaker by about 20% less ammo, and 20% less damage. but put it at the same price ISK as the regular scrambler rilfe and make it STD.
at least give us Scrambler users another Option.
If you don't know your %'s use a calculator from adv the AscR is 37.9 i believe (either 37.8 or .9) (from .9) a decrease in damage by 20% (by calculator) is 30.32 (so if im correct 30.5) a reduction in ammo in my opinion is ******** no offense a reduction by 20% is 57.6 in ammo. Please think and use calculators if your stumped cause clearly you do not understand %'s (Yes i use a calculator, but I understand this games calculation, numbers got me stumped? I use a calculator! .)
Keep it at 72 ammo and if they do a STD variant put it at Dmg 35, kay? |
gargantuise aaron
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:56:00 -
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Scrambler then swap to smg / flaylock armor problem solved |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.19 05:46:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Just let us have all our variants at level two again.
It was dumb on CCP to make us have to invest half mil SP just to use something special. They did that to get people to play the game. If you really want a gun, then get some SP and then use it. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
655
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:33:00 -
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Tal-Rakken wrote:D legendary hero wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:I think it's fairly clear from looking at other weapons, that variant weapons turn up at Operation IV. AR gets breach at STD, HMG gets assault at STD, in fact most weapons get variants at lvl3. and may at lvl1. try again, i believe you meant at lvl2 and lvl 4, as for more variants i'd rather see them release the combat rifle and the other suits we're missing than working on more variants of the weapons we already have.
how much work is it to make the same exact lvl4 weapon a level 1 weapon with 20% less damage per shot, and 20% less ammo? |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
655
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:37:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:D legendary hero wrote:make a version of the Assault scrambler rifle availible at STD level. make it weaker by about 20% less ammo, and 20% less damage. but put it at the same price ISK as the regular scrambler rilfe and make it STD.
at least give us Scrambler users another Option. If you don't know your %'s use a calculator from adv the AscR is 37.9 i believe (either 37.8 or .9) (from .9) a decrease in damage by 20% (by calculator) is 30.32 (so if im correct 30.5) a reduction in ammo in my opinion is ******** no offense a reduction by 20% is 57.6 in ammo. Please think and use calculators if your stumped cause clearly you do not understand %'s (Yes i use a calculator, but I understand this games calculation, numbers got me stumped? I use a calculator! .) Keep it at 72 ammo and if they do a STD variant put it at Dmg 35, kay?
**** gimme a break, i meant to put a different percentage, i was actually thinking in terms of dps when i said 20%. but yeah, it doesn't matter. to be honest, i dnt give 2 fucks.... 35 is fine. obviously, you could see my intent was to make a slightly weaker variant for the std lvl. that AR noobs wouldnt instantly scream is OP. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
655
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:38:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:I'll go one further - all weapon variants should have a standard level version available. I want to use a burst scrambler pistol without going up to ADV due to fitting costs.
this makes sense and is cool. plus it give people a chance to figure out which type they like. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1350
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:43:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:I'd stop speccing into them.. they are buffing armor in the next patch. Unless you are good with the charged single shot the weapon will get dominated. Disagree. We aren't getting a buff. We are being made what we were supposed to be.
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WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:39:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:D legendary hero wrote:make a version of the Assault scrambler rifle availible at STD level. make it weaker by about 20% less ammo, and 20% less damage. but put it at the same price ISK as the regular scrambler rilfe and make it STD.
at least give us Scrambler users another Option. If you don't know your %'s use a calculator from adv the AscR is 37.9 i believe (either 37.8 or .9) (from .9) a decrease in damage by 20% (by calculator) is 30.32 (so if im correct 30.5) a reduction in ammo in my opinion is ******** no offense a reduction by 20% is 57.6 in ammo. Please think and use calculators if your stumped cause clearly you do not understand %'s (Yes i use a calculator, but I understand this games calculation, numbers got me stumped? I use a calculator! .) Keep it at 72 ammo and if they do a STD variant put it at Dmg 35, kay?
I would love a lvl 2 standard assault scrambler rifle with a cost of 2500 ISK. A decrease of about 1 point in damage and a decrease of 1.6 points in accuracy would be enough I think to make this variant accessible at lvl 2 while also keeping the lvl 4 assault scrambler variant. Adjusting the CPU and PG requirements of the lvl 2 assault scrambler rifle would be necessary. |
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1929
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:08:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:I'll go one further - all weapon variants should have a standard level version available. I want to use a burst scrambler pistol without going up to ADV due to fitting costs.
I agree with the OP, but this is what I'd really like to see - all variants at all levels. It's one thing if they're completely re-arranging things like they did with nanohives post-uprising, but they should be able to scale damage, etc. accordingly for the various weapons. It's also disappointing when there is no proto-version of a variant. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
664
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Posted - 2013.08.19 18:57:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Just let us have all our variants at level two again.
It was dumb on CCP to make us have to invest half mil SP just to use something special. They did that to get people to play the game. If you really want a gun, then get some SP and then use it. People did play the Game.
And, the Field wasn't spammed with ADV weaponry against STD gear like it is now.
Now, they have to dump upwards of Half a mil SP to try a gun with slightly different Stats.
If you want to try that "Brand New Gun" you have to dump so Much Time, and SP in it, to determine if a Player wants to continue on the SP path.
It would help breed diversity through the fact that you could then just easily jump to another role without another huge commitment to trying out the role. |
Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
114
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:53:00 -
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I actually looked in the market under the variant tab on AScRs, and saw there is in fact a Std. AScR somewhere in there. If it's already made, it would be super easy to implement, so I don't see why CCP just does it. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
303
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:39:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:I am still waiting for the breach, and the burst scram
Really????
The ScR is that in one rifle. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
678
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:30:00 -
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bump. i see CCP has the code for the STD level assault scrambler rifle in the game, go under variants, of the CDR- AScr and you will see under it a rifle that just says "Assault Scrambler".
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D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
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Posted - 2013.08.23 22:53:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:bump. i see CCP has the code for the STD level assault scrambler rifle in the game, go under variants, of the CDR- AScr and you will see under it a rifle that just says "Assault Scrambler".
bump indeed |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
220
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:04:00 -
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I never understood why they argued that less available content equals more fun.
Seriously, give access to all variants as early as possible. More variation is good. Balance the variants properly, but make them available. Preferably even as militia variants. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
697
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:10:00 -
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Stefan Stahl wrote:I never understood why they argued that less available content equals more fun.
Seriously, give access to all variants as early as possible. More variation is good. Balance the variants properly, but make them available. Preferably even as militia variants.
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
Tal-Rakken
DUST University Ivy League
64
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:50:00 -
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You know you could always spec to lvl1 and just use the aur variant and support the development of the game.... The crd9 aur variant is available at lvl1. That's how I tested out the ascr before I but the bullet and trained for it. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
699
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Posted - 2013.08.24 00:30:00 -
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Tal-Rakken wrote:You know you could always spec to lvl1 and just use the aur variant and support the development of the game.... The crd9 aur variant is available at lvl1. That's how I tested out the ascr before I but the bullet and trained for it.
I did support the development of the game by getting an elit pack. now support me with Ascr at level 1.W00T! |
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