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MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:34:00 -
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Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:35:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit.
yes it's that good - but not all that good for PC matches where surviving means more then killing. |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:36:00 -
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Depends what weapon.
But until you get the Complex, I wouldn't recommend using them at all, 3% Extra damage isn't that much. |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
398
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:36:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit.
Militia Assault Rifle - 34 Damage per shot
Duvolle Assault Rifle - 37.4 Damage per shot
10% Bonus with Complex Damage Modifier + MLT AR = 37.4 Damage per shot |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
465
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:37:00 -
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yes its currently the only buff to armor tanking |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:38:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit. Militia Assault Rifle - 34 Damage per shot Duvolle Assault Rifle - 37.4 Damage per shot 10% Bonus with Complex Damage Modifier + MLT AR = 37.4 Damage per shot
MLT AR OP.
Nerf please. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Rebel Raiders Inc.
895
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:41:00 -
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3% light dmg mod is worthless, you need the 10% complex dmg mod for it to be worth fitting one |
Midas Fool
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:48:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:yes its currently the advantage to armor tanking
Fixed.
Yes OP damage mods make a good amount of difference. Try them with high-alpha weapons like the Sniper and you'll notice the difference right away. Although the guy that killed you probably had some SP in weapon proficiency skills as well. |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:00:00 -
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Jeez, well I guess I'll invest skills in dropsuits so I can get more cpu because I am currently using a Medium Caldari suit with 150 so I can't equip much in terms of extra stuff. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Rebel Raiders Inc.
895
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:02:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Jeez, well I guess I'll invest skills in dropsuits so I can get more cpu because I am currently using a Medium Caldari suit with 150 so I can't equip much in terms of extra stuff.
you do know that you can raise cpu by raising electronics core skill? going for the next tier suit before core skilling is generally a mistake. |
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MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:15:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:MEY87 wrote:Jeez, well I guess I'll invest skills in dropsuits so I can get more cpu because I am currently using a Medium Caldari suit with 150 so I can't equip much in terms of extra stuff. you do know that you can raise cpu by raising electronics core skill? going for the next tier suit before core skilling is generally a mistake.
Oh, I didn't know. I get a bit confused when looking at the skills. Also I know this is off topic but really quick does anyone know how to get on top of the mushroom building on the one map. It's getting frustrating cause I see people on it all the time and want to sneak up on them but don't know how.
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1876
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:20:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:MEY87 wrote:Jeez, well I guess I'll invest skills in dropsuits so I can get more cpu because I am currently using a Medium Caldari suit with 150 so I can't equip much in terms of extra stuff. you do know that you can raise cpu by raising electronics core skill? going for the next tier suit before core skilling is generally a mistake. Oh, I didn't know. I get a bit confused when looking at the skills. Also I know this is off topic but really quick does anyone know how to get on top of the mushroom building on the one map. It's getting frustrating cause I see people on it all the time and want to sneak up on them but don't know how.
You need a dropship for that. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
199
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:22:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:MEY87 wrote:
Oh, I didn't know. I get a bit confused when looking at the skills. Also I know this is off topic but really quick does anyone know how to get on top of the mushroom building on the one map. It's getting frustrating cause I see people on it all the time and want to sneak up on them but don't know how.
You need a dropship for that.
And a lot of luck that they don't kill you immediately |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:30:00 -
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Really, I tend to see maybe five of six people up there. Thanks for the heads up. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1188
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:40:00 -
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Take a look for yourself in this chart I made showing how much damage you can do with each complex mod at max assault rifle skill. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
653
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:46:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Take a look for yourself in this chart I made showing how much damage you can do with each complex mod at max assault rifle skill.
The numbers are clearly wrong on the GB-9 Breach, might want to take a look at that. |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
183
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:49:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit.
H E L L Y E S |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1189
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:51:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Take a look for yourself in this chart I made showing how much damage you can do with each complex mod at max assault rifle skill. The numbers are clearly wrong on the GB-9 Breach, might want to take a look at that.
Oh **** I see that/ Thanks for noticing, I accidentally added put the fourth mod's number in the third mod's slot.
Fixed Thank you for spotting that. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3027
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:52:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit. Militia Assault Rifle - 34 Damage per shot Duvolle Assault Rifle - 37.4 Damage per shot 10% Bonus with Complex Damage Modifier + MLT AR = 37.4 Damage per shot
That would explain why a short, half-second burst from a militia AR killed my scout. |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:53:00 -
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That really is some high damage. That is with the stacked modules even with the penalty for stacking. That's crazy. |
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low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
309
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:58:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Just curious cause I tend to run into it a lot where I get into a gun fight and sometimes even surprised someone with the same custom armor and gun as what I'm using but I absolutely get wasted where as I barely dent their shield. I have one of the light damage 3.0 mods and got some proficiencies in AR but man it wrecks me even from far away. Is it just the build because right now I'm shooting to maybe work on getting more SP to put into AR before working on my dropsuit.
you can certainly feel the difference when you put them into your fit, but you have to trade ehp for it, so it's a judgement call. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4292
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:58:00 -
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They're good enough to make any weapon seem OP. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1189
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:00:00 -
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Yes, and that's one of the main advantages to armor tanking. You can allow more DPS without loss of main defense.
Sure you can't stack shield on there as a buff but when you drop people that fast who needs a buff.
Although to fit two damage mod and not have to sacrifice anything to your suit takes A LOT of SP. It took me to get Light Weapon Level 5, Engineering Level 5, Electronics level 5, Core upgrades level 5 and Explosives level 5 just to be able to fit my suit without sacrifices (Although when the Gallente Ion pistol comes out I might be in trouble).
I spent 18 million SP alone into getting my Assault suit where I wanted it to be. So don't start speccing into damage mods yet to stack them on there. The passive damage skill is first priority.
Also you can only have the load out I have with the Gallente suit which has the CPU/PG reduction bonus |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:02:00 -
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Well that sucks since my bonus SP just ran out. I kind of wish that you can get a bit more for winning the match. Now I'm back to 400 a pop. Is the bonus for new players? Also how do you unlock more slots for mods? Sorry for all the questions but I want to understand a few things because like all new players, I'm getting frustrated from getting my butt handed to me^^ |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:03:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Well that sucks since my bonus SP just ran out. I kind of wish that you can get a bit more for winning the match. Now I'm back to 400 a pop. Is the bonus for new players?
Bonus SP is allocated every week... on Wednesdays I think. Its kind of like a limiter for those who play overmuch to allow slower players to catch up. |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:06:00 -
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Whoops, I guess I'm playing so much because I want to do better and I'm still learning what kind of loadouts to make. Still wish that it wasn't so low by default but I understand. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1189
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:08:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Whoops, I guess I'm playing so much because I want to do better and I'm still learning what kind of loadouts to make. Still wish that it wasn't so low by default but I understand.
I believe new players should get 1 million Unallocated SP.
The amount that they give you now has never been changed from the times where things were much cheaper SP wise. 500,000 used to cut it back then but now, not so much. |
gargantuise aaron
Sanguine Knights
74
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:21:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:MEY87 wrote:Jeez, well I guess I'll invest skills in dropsuits so I can get more cpu because I am currently using a Medium Caldari suit with 150 so I can't equip much in terms of extra stuff. you do know that you can raise cpu by raising electronics core skill? going for the next tier suit before core skilling is generally a mistake. Oh, I didn't know. I get a bit confused when looking at the skills. Also I know this is off topic but really quick does anyone know how to get on top of the mushroom building on the one map. It's getting frustrating cause I see people on it all the time and want to sneak up on them but don't know how.
A lot of people do, I do good using mlt. But i also have plenty of core skills
I'm planing on maxing out shield abd armor just for bonus 25% I think |
MEY87
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:42:00 -
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One last thing. How do orbital strikes work? I know how to access the menu. From what I know, you need 2500wp and the squad leader only can trigger it. Is that right? |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Rebel Raiders Inc.
898
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:50:00 -
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MEY87 wrote:Really, I tend to see maybe five of six people up there. Thanks for the heads up.
they are dropping a spawn uplink after landing there allowing their team to spawn in on the roof top |
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