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Billi Gene Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 292	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:27:00 - [31] - Quote seriously, don't nerf standard level jeep spam, its the only way my newby tanker is making bank... redline rail sniping like a boss!
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3009	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:39:00 - [32] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: seriously, don't nerf standard level jeep spam, its the only way my newby tanker is making bank... redline rail sniping like a boss! I'm saying that if we can get BPOs like that from buying merc packs, we should get starter fit BPOs, like infantry.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 646	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:40:00 - [33] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: [quote=Alkalace McHearty][quote=Scheneighnay McBob]Not as simple as that. Now, they're much harder to destroy, and not as common, so AVers are putting a lot of ISK and effort into getting a measly 40 WP, since drivers almost always bail anyway. To be honest 25k per militia LAV isn't bad. 35k with a scanner. It's still fast and grants me a huge amount of mobility with a Forge Gun. That's what counts at the end of the day, the speed it grants you. For anything not an LLAV one shot is still doing the trick in almost all cases. Even if they bail the ensuing explosion often kills. I think there might be +20% damage for shooting the lower half of an LAV which makes the difference between setting BPOs on fire versus outright killing them. Would a BPO Saga be better and cheaper? Sure. Would it be a paradigm shift compared to a Baloch? Not even close. The only way you're going to OHK a non-militia LAV is if you're running proto AV, or advanced with a lot of damage mods. Never run AV without two Complex Damage. Isn't it normal to run damage mods with AV?
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3009	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:45:00 - [34] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: I like how P2W is worth 20k a pop to you Actually, it's a 40k vehicle that they get for free, while everyone else doesn't even get the 27k ones for free.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3009	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:46:00 - [35] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Poplo Furuya wrote: [quote=Scheneighnay McBob][quote=Alkalace McHearty] To be honest 25k per militia LAV isn't bad. 35k with a scanner. It's still fast and grants me a huge amount of mobility with a Forge Gun. That's what counts at the end of the day, the speed it grants you. For anything not an LLAV one shot is still doing the trick in almost all cases. Even if they bail the ensuing explosion often kills. I think there might be +20% damage for shooting the lower half of an LAV which makes the difference between setting BPOs on fire versus outright killing them. Would a BPO Saga be better and cheaper? Sure. Would it be a paradigm shift compared to a Baloch? Not even close. The only way you're going to OHK a non-militia LAV is if you're running proto AV, or advanced with a lot of damage mods. Never run AV without two Complex Damage. Isn't it normal to run damage mods with AV? Yes, but we shouldn't be required to run proto gear just to take down a damn jeep.
ROADKILLURAZZ MURDER TAXI COMPANY 73	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:49:00 - [36] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, in an attempt to fix murder taxis, all CCP did was remove starter fit LAVs. Not only did these have nothing to do with the problem, but their existence balanced something else in the game- Through merc packs, players can get a BPO Saga. Previously, this was no big deal- just a small step up from starter fit LAVs. Now that starter fits are gone, this is downright P2W. While the average player can't use a (fragile) free militia LAV, players can use real money to buy a limitless supply of tougher LAVs, which can't be stopped like every other murder taxi in the game. Starter fit LAVs need to come back- they weren't a problem, and actually made AV a viable role. WRONG!!!! My bpo saga has 4000hp! Try upgrading vehicle skills!
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 197	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:49:00 - [37] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, in an attempt to fix murder taxis, all CCP did was remove starter fit LAVs. Not only did these have nothing to do with the problem, but their existence balanced something else in the game- Through merc packs, players can get a BPO Saga. Previously, this was no big deal- just a small step up from starter fit LAVs. Now that starter fits are gone, this is downright P2W. While the average player can't use a (fragile) free militia LAV, players can use real money to buy a limitless supply of tougher LAVs, which can't be stopped like every other murder taxi in the game. Starter fit LAVs need to come back- they weren't a problem, and actually made AV a viable role. I remember those day when i used to start the match with a swarm launcher and blow up noobs coming at my teammates. now its now like that.. :(
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 197	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:52:00 - [38] - Quote Reaper Skordeman wrote: True Murder Taxi's are the LLAV's. I have the Blood Raider BPO, and it can be destroyed very easily, I mean not as easily as the MLT's. The Blood Raiders/Watch Saga's you encountered are just very well equipped or you lack any AV Gear. Plus if you don't think the removal of Free BPO's has reduced the frequency of Murder Taxi's your must be blind. lol at least the free ones were easy to destroy, now every1 has good LAV's like the Saga nad Sada II and the LLAV's..
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3010	Posted - 2013.08.16 21:55:00 - [39] - Quote ROADKILLURAZZ wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, in an attempt to fix murder taxis, all CCP did was remove starter fit LAVs. Not only did these have nothing to do with the problem, but their existence balanced something else in the game- Through merc packs, players can get a BPO Saga. Previously, this was no big deal- just a small step up from starter fit LAVs. Now that starter fits are gone, this is downright P2W. While the average player can't use a (fragile) free militia LAV, players can use real money to buy a limitless supply of tougher LAVs, which can't be stopped like every other murder taxi in the game. Starter fit LAVs need to come back- they weren't a problem, and actually made AV a viable role. WRONG!!!! My bpo saga has 4000hp! Try upgrading vehicle skills! What does that have to do with anything?
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 650	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:29:00 - [40] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: ROADKILLURAZZ wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, in an attempt to fix murder taxis, all CCP did was remove starter fit LAVs. Not only did these have nothing to do with the problem, but their existence balanced something else in the game- Through merc packs, players can get a BPO Saga. Previously, this was no big deal- just a small step up from starter fit LAVs. Now that starter fits are gone, this is downright P2W. While the average player can't use a (fragile) free militia LAV, players can use real money to buy a limitless supply of tougher LAVs, which can't be stopped like every other murder taxi in the game. Starter fit LAVs need to come back- they weren't a problem, and actually made AV a viable role. WRONG!!!! My bpo saga has 4000hp! Try upgrading vehicle skills! What does that have to do with anything? It proves you right...er.

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1147	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:32:00 - [41] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Either you missed the point, or you paid to win and you're upset you got called on it. Don't bother, FLAYLOACK STEVE always misses the point. I've concluded that he's either a forum troll or insanely dense.
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 652	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:09:00 - [42] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Either you missed the point, or you paid to win and you're upset you got called on it. Don't bother, FLAYLOACK STEVE always misses the point. I've concluded that he's either a forum troll or insanely dense. I'd hope for the latter as it is more entertaining :3
Ren Ratner Infinite Raiders 59	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:14:00 - [43] - Quote Sagas feed AV kills. They're taxis, not murder taxis. Trying to run people down with ANY saga is asking to receive the attention of AV, and any decent AV will destroy them. Getting rid of Saga BPOs would be straight up robbery. Suck it up and equip AV grenades.
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 359	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:19:00 - [44] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: So, in an attempt to fix murder taxis, all CCP did was remove starter fit LAVs. Not only did thes. nothing to do with the problem, but their existence balanced something else in the game- Through merc packs, players can get a BPO Saga. Previously, this was no big deal- just a small step up from starter fit LAVs. Now that starter fits are gone, this is downright P2W. While the average player can't use a (fragile) free militia LAV, players can use real money to buy a limitless supply of tougher LAVs, which can't be stopped like every other murder taxi in the game. Starter fit LAVs need to come back- they weren't a problem, and actually made AV a viable role. Oh hell no you didn't go there! Fk this, I paid over $200 on this game to Support it. Now you trying to say its p2w? Lol wow, only 2 merc packs that i own contains bpo saga. One is $50 the other is $100. and you saying its a problem? Lol the main reason i bought the $50 pack was for the saga itself. Please stop, I happen to help the team by spawning my saga for those who doesn't have it. so again stop crying and buy it too. Its not p2w, it's only a standard vehicle. Either you missed the point, or you paid to win and you're upset you got called on it. It isn't pay to win you fking idiot. It's a damn standard car. You can't p2w on dust. Seriously gtfo.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3017	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:19:00 - [45] - Quote Ren Ratner wrote: Sagas feed AV kills. They're taxis, not murder taxis. Trying to run people down with ANY saga is asking to receive the attention of AV, and any decent AV will destroy them. Getting rid of Saga BPOs would be straight up robbery. Suck it up and equip AV grenades. Learn to read more than the title for once. I'm saying bring back starter fits.
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 359	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:26:00 - [46] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Ren Ratner wrote: Sagas feed AV kills. They're taxis, not murder taxis. Trying to run people down with ANY saga is asking to receive the attention of AV, and any decent AV will destroy them. Getting rid of Saga BPOs would be straight up robbery. Suck it up and equip AV grenades. Learn to read more than the title for once. I'm saying bring back starter fits. Again I read. But that won't happen because of the murder taxis. Once that gets fixed than sure.
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven EoN. 947	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:37:00 - [47] - Quote I like to call in 6 sagas per ambush for my blueberries to use and put BPO resistance modules on them just for kicks. win every time
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7378	Posted - 2013.08.17 01:51:00 - [48] - Quote I recall plenty of times of having been one shotted in my blood raider saga. back before BPO removal I primarily used it to ram other militia/standard LAVs to death.


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