I've tried a freedom MD with and alt, my reaction was: why the hell i do not spec in it with my main
Come on, the MD have more AoE than a big missilistic turret

Thats mostly because missle turrets are crap to be fair they need a buff.

Also I like how people go I tried it in one match with 3 damage mods on and did well something is wrong. I have a cheap suit its a dragonfly scout with and exile a toxin SMG some cheap armour mods and RE's it costs about 5k I have managed games where I went 20+ for 0 doesn't mean there is something uber about that fit it means I had a good game. Judging a gun by one game is stupid try it for a few games and post the ones where you fight against people who actually counter your playstyle and see if you have flawless games every match. I main MD always have done and yes sometimes I do ridiculously well sometimes I do terrible I had a game yesterday where I suicided 3 times and didn't do well at all because there were a few guys on the opposite team who actually knew how to counter my MD they got into melee range with me and forced me to either suicide or thanks to low logi stamina get beaten to death.

The real reason the MD seems OP is allot of people seem to have no idea what to do when getting shot, I cant count the number of people who I have killed because they decide straffing from side to side is a great idea, it may work against an AR but moving 2 feet to the left then 2 feet to the right continuously just means I aim in the middle and kill you. Even better are the people who just stand perfectly still and try and hop over my shots, I mean its not hard to hit a stationary target even if its bunnyhopping a few direct hits on you mid air isn't that hard. Best of all are the ones who refuse to believe that hiding behind a box means I cant hit them. The ones where you damage them or flux them so they hide behind a crate or something, so you land a round right next to them an hurt them with splash and you expect them to move but lo and behold they decide sitting behind a crate not attempting to re-position or fight back is the way forward.

To get a better perspective of the Mass Driver, I specced into the standard MD. With an ADV Minmatar Medium Basic, I slapped on some Flux Grenades, a basic nanohive, 3 damage mods, a kincat, and a cardiac regulator.

I went 26-0 in a pub Domination match on my first try...

I played as if I was a shotty scout (throwing a Flux into a group and then rushing in with the MD and then swiftly retreating when I was hurt). It was so easy, so easy in fact that I became angry after the match. With such an easy way to attain kills, why use any other method?

I won't say that the MD is overpowered. I feel that it is fine, but there is something about it that makes me pissed off. Why am I so angry?

Implement tiercide and never worry about the FOTM again. Balancing a weapon becomes so much easier if there's only one tier to worry about.

Imagine a proposal reaches CCP's future changes whiteboard: change the MD to lower is killing potential and increase area denial ability.

They'll have to test:

1. against other weapons
the standard MD, against all other standard, advanced and prototype weapons and their variants
the advanced MD against all other std, adv, pro weapons and their variants
the prototype MD against all other std, adv, pro weapons and their variants
all md variants, against all other std, adv, pro weapons and their variants.

THEN determine if the MD is actually more potent at killing than everything else.

2. against the rest of the game
THEN they need to consider whether it's the weapon, or lack of a feature, such as maps being too focused on horizontal combat (which favours arcing weapons greatly) rather than vertical combat. Or perhaps vehicles are too weak, not enough people are using vehicles? Or maybe maps are just too small and everyone gets concentrated into chokepoints?

THEN make a change. What they decide to change is based on all that previous data and more, perhaps taking into account community input.

THEN they have to test that change. THEN they need to release it.
And for what? To have people complain that the nerf wasn't necessary, like many threads did about the CalLogi?

Implementation of tiercide could lead to the eradication of all the hassle in step 1., at least. They would only have one 'tier' of weapons to test an overpowered weapon against. This means if they take a weapon that most agree is already 'balanced', and change the imbalanced weapon based on that standard, then they've achieved what had to be done.

You can't out strafe an MD shotgun... I think minimum arming time is a balance change that would really help the MD spam.

It makes you angry because its not how that weapon should be used.

why don't we change bullets to bean bags, nova knives to feather dusters, that way no one dies, and everyones happy ect ect, this is war people

why don't we change bullets to bean bags, nova knives to feather dusters, that way no one dies, and everyones happy ect ect, this is war people

that wouldn't keep pepz happy, they would still moan about something

"Look guys, I made a fitting that directly complimented the weapon I was using. I deployed it in a game mode ideal for farming kills, and I did really well with it. Isn't this weapon so OP!?"

These arguments of people not knowing what to do are flat out flawed, it's also the same song from the flaylock lovers. You say retreat get distance, or wait for the 6 shots blaw blaw. Whats really happening is they are acting as they did with the flaylock, running in groups, where you instantly get hit by 4-6 MD rounds, Which require little aiming( another famous argument of stupidity, hard to use...FU liars).
Or they get high, have a forge gunner stopping all chance to get them off, then spam spam spam non stop MD rounds, I see these players all day, not even aiming, stood away from the edge, just shooting.

There are some great MD players out there, I get schooled by them, but for the most. MDust 514 is a talentless spam fest, removing any skill from game, replacing it with just boring explosions.

The main issue is that there are so many blueberries around atm, who have a combined 350 ehp, which are just being destroyed before they have a chance to understand anything about Dust, everygame I have been in (just about every game) in the last 2 weeks has been 100% one sided n00bberries redlined, and massdrivered off the map. Must be fun.

Easy kills bull s***ing the KD system, and screwing the game of potential. simple as

Thats mostly because missle turrets are crap to be fair they need a buff.

Also I like how people go I tried it in one match with 3 damage mods on and did well something is wrong. I have a cheap suit its a dragonfly scout with and exile a toxin SMG some cheap armour mods and RE's it costs about 5k I have managed games where I went 20+ for 0 doesn't mean there is something uber about that fit it means I had a good game. Judging a gun by one game is stupid try it for a few games and post the ones where you fight against people who actually counter your playstyle and see if you have flawless games every match. I main MD always have done and yes sometimes I do ridiculously well sometimes I do terrible I had a game yesterday where I suicided 3 times and didn't do well at all because there were a few guys on the opposite team who actually knew how to counter my MD they got into melee range with me and forced me to either suicide or thanks to low logi stamina get beaten to death.

The real reason the MD seems OP is allot of people seem to have no idea what to do when getting shot, I cant count the number of people who I have killed because they decide straffing from side to side is a great idea, it may work against an AR but moving 2 feet to the left then 2 feet to the right continuously just means I aim in the middle and kill you. Even better are the people who just stand perfectly still and try and hop over my shots, I mean its not hard to hit a stationary target even if its bunnyhopping a few direct hits on you mid air isn't that hard. Best of all are the ones who refuse to believe that hiding behind a box means I cant hit them. The ones where you damage them or flux them so they hide behind a crate or something, so you land a round right next to them an hurt them with splash and you expect them to move but lo and behold they decide sitting behind a crate not attempting to re-position or fight back is the way forward.

Lol, "lots of people all shot me at the same time and I died!? So OP"

How on earth can you talk about flawed arguments and then come up with tripe like this?

These arguments of people not knowing what to do are flat out flawed, it's also the same song from the flaylock lovers. You say retreat get distance, or wait for the 6 shots blaw blaw. Whats really happening is they are acting as they did with the flaylock, running in groups, where you instantly get hit by 4-6 MD rounds, Which require little aiming( another famous argument of stupidity, hard to use...FU liars).
Or they get high, have a forge gunner stopping all chance to get them off, then spam spam spam non stop MD rounds, I see these players all day, not even aiming, stood away from the edge, just shooting.

There are some great MD players out there, I get schooled by them, but for the most. MDust 514 is a talentless spam fest, removing any skill from game, replacing it with just boring explosions.

The main issue is that there are so many blueberries around atm, who have a combined 350 ehp, which are just being destroyed before they have a chance to understand anything about Dust, everygame I have been in (just about every game) in the last 2 weeks has been 100% one sided n00bberries redlined, and massdrivered off the map. Must be fun.

Easy kills bull s***ing the KD system, and screwing the game of potential. simple as

To get a better perspective of the Mass Driver, I specced into the standard MD. With an ADV Minmatar Medium Basic, I slapped on some Flux Grenades, a basic nanohive, 3 damage mods, a kincat, and a cardiac regulator.

I went 26-0 in a pub Domination match on my first try...

I played as if I was a shotty scout (throwing a Flux into a group and then rushing in with the MD and then swiftly retreating when I was hurt). It was so easy, so easy in fact that I became angry after the match. With such an easy way to attain kills, why use any other method?

I won't say that the MD is overpowered. I feel that it is fine, but there is something about it that makes me pissed off. Why am I so angry?

Just combed over my post, didn't say it was OP. Please for the love of your parents learn to read.