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ShinyJay
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:32:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:the giant red arrow would be more effective...at certain ranges.that little sniper trail doesnt exist.
because of render distances.
the many times ive been hit by a sniper and looked to where they hit me from i took a derpship and was still unable to find them..
that giant red arrow above their head for a short time would only give some better information of where the shot came from..
i may snipe from time to time but this will kill camping for snipers.
and thats the point of it.
your location should be known after firing your first few shots.
its a great idea really...
and if the sniper is out of render range..
it will give better detail as to where those invisible bullets r coming from.
so the only ppl to hate it r the ones that want to rain down bullets onto players for the entire match concealed in a box of safety...
and be completely unaware of their own surroundings.
you just want to stop people from camping in general, and with that idea, you are just condemning snipers more to extinction. snipers aren't suppose to be found right away or have some big indicator above their heads just because you can't see far due to rendering, or a big distance gap like 200+ meters. whenever i get hit by snipers, I look and walk in the direction i was shot from, going from cover to cover, to find where they are. you just hate having to use tactics and change your play style just because something didn't go your way. you want some easy way of life for yourself while making it hard for others to be effective. you just hate how snipers are and just want them to be in your face at all times. do this before you spout ideas, dedicate yourself to the sniper class, not as a counter, and learn how hard life is without that AR you love using. then you can come back and judge snipers. |
ShinyJay
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:06:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:without the ar?
not that hard...
i use several weapons on dust 514.
snipers included.
and while counter sniping.
this is how it goes the sniper u r trying to snipe normally have a height advantage. meaning that sniper over there will be hard to try and counter without use of ds.
and if they r camping in the redzone...
well its only fair that players should get to know the general area in which they r camping.
as most of the time players rnt going to know where they r located..
all my idea does is make finding that camper a little easier.
you also tend to forget that most red line snipers don't have much of a field of vision as you think. only some maps do but most of them have cities or other obstructions which limits their views. and honestly, red line snipers are by far the easiest ones to kill, unless they glitch. some people don't use their brains when hit by a sniper, and look at where they got hit. or only look in the direction and not walk towards it to find them exactly. when i get hit by a sniper, i walk towards the direction after i walk around to find and kill them. maybe you should try walking to them instead of away from them |
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Posted - 2013.10.08 16:20:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:ud think that would work but it doesnt alot of the time.
and what ur saying is basically what my idea makes easier...
that field of vision from the redzone may not cover certain specific areas.
but those chosen camp spots do cover a very wide view of the map, its not that narrow.
what your suggesting is that snipers be made public for some kind of execution and make sniping more scarce then it already is. as of right now, people can hardly snipe out of the red line and rarely in the red line with that field of vision. the sniper role is almost gone and with that suggestion, will be most likely destroyed |
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:44:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:the sniper role will not be gone.
many games i play it ends up like this...
one player starts sniping...
gets several kills.
then suddenly some1 on the other team decides to grab an sr and start trying to find the sniper..
and then a few minutes later no1 but a few ppl r trying to go for an objective while the rest of the entire teams r camping trying to snipe each other...
and so the players running on the ground trying to hack objectives and so on get punished by getting slaughtered by snipers hiding out in the several camp spots we already know about and others that r still being discovered..
this is one of the reasons why ccp designed the new maps the way they r currently.
many of the objectives r inside structures and protected by cover and such..
my big red arrow over your head for short amount of time idea doesnt take away all the camp spots but instead.
it helps the helpless ground player get the chance for some revenge...
and most likely.
it wont change much.
it really only affects your beloved redzone sniper/camper.
so nothing major to worry about.
the only player that would likely be gunning for u is the angry player uve been farming for points..
so in turn with your suggestion, you make it easy for ground troops to kill snipers, and make it harder for snipers to operate. you forget that with that big arrow, you show where a camp spot is for all, and thus render that spot useless, and continue the process again and again, until all are using CQC weapons. your idea is doing the opposite what what you say. snipers don't need to be penalized anymore. make it so snipers can function in some kind of CQC so they can do their job. also, i ask this of you right now. what is the sniper's role in this game at this very moment? to me, with all that is changing with maps, the sniper's roles are becoming lost and destroyed. |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 15:33:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:a combat sniper role means that sniper should always be on the move. moving from spot to spot.
thats what the big red arrow idea forces the sniper to do.
to move around more on the battle field.
that same sniper will also have some cqc effective with the use of the secondary weapon.
the way players snipe is this way currently.
they stand in one spot for the entire game. on a little safe hill..
they should be found out after firing their first few rounds.
and even if players start gunning for them they would still have a side arm to fall back on.
and seeing how they already have a tactical advantage by being on top of a hill where their enemy doesnt have much of any cover. taking them down shouldnt be a problem.
that sniper rifle is supposed to help those in cqc combat with the assault rifles in such by taking out enemy players in heavy cover.
thats why headshots ohk nearly every time with a sniper rifle.
my idea does not kill sniping.
if a sniper wants to do cqc that sniper will have a limited cqc effectiveness.
with the use of a side arm.
the new maps which most snipers seem to hate is because there are few camp spots on the map.
id say the new maps where designed to force players who want to snipe to move around the map from point to point. not stay in one place for the entire map.
my big red arrow idea. forces the sniper to change locations every once in a while. as they should be doing.
so if several camp locations get found out by majority of the blueberries. all it means is that ull have to be moving around a little more if u want to avoid getting killed.
what this does is give sniping an actual role.
and kills its well known reputation as the (PAD YOUR OWN KDR) gun.
it also makes it a true recon class.
snipers are suppose to move yes, but a sniper can't fill a combat role with it's gun sway and being about 100-50 meters away, which most guns can shoot up to. it's can't be recon if they have to get in close and not see anything but buildings. snipers are not suppose to be found so easily, otherwise they would just grab CQC weapons and go to the front lines. you want to change the way a sniper works without changing the attributes of the sniper rifle. relying on my side arm when an scrambler or AR is not as reliable unless they get in my range, which is often not the case. do you know why snipers red line more often since 1.4? it's because they can't function at 100 meters without dying, and nothing is past 100-150 meters without something blocking their way. i been trying to snipe in all maps, finding different and out of the ordinary uses for my sniper. example, i strafe with it while aiming down my swaying scope in CQC and hope i can land those few shots. sometimes it works, sometimes not. why i do that? because everything caters to CQC mostly. snipers shouldn't be the only class that have to change tactics drastically, but all others should as well. if people die to a sniper and can't change tactics or fittings, then that is just lazy and stupid |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:05:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:now that ive drawn out most of the ppl who obviously rnt good at the game itself and must desperately try to shoot down my idea so they can sleep at night.
im going to state what normally happens in most of the games i have played when it comes to snipers.
what my idea intended for them is it makes it to where they cant camp in one spot for the entire game.
that right there is not sniping..that is camping with a sniper rifle.
now to the above idiot who said most snipers are always in scout suits..
that just.no just no.that is the stupidest thing to say ever when it comes to snipers.
most of the snipers i have come across. are in proto caldari medium dropsuits.
sure ull come across the rare scout gk0 but thats about it. there is also the occasional player using the heavy suit to snipe with.
but its all mostly med frames from here..
when talking about suits.
headshots do ohk nearly everytime.
and that right there is fine.
what isnt fine is the fact that same sniper can endlessly fire that loud sniper rifle getting kills on players (that are aware of whats around them.) for the entire game with out getting spotted.
being a sniper should be a role that involves lots of self awareness..
what ive seen in game isnt a role that involves lots of self awareness..
all i have seen so far when it comes to snipers are players that go to a high position overlooking the entire battle field(mostly in the redzone).
take random pot shots on random players on the ground that are actually trying to get stuff done by hacking objectives and such.
and remain completely unaware of their own surroundings.
this what those "snipers" do majority of the time.
and thats why its so easy to sneak up on the most snipers. so u could think of this as a buff for all u know.
that big red arrow over your head idea would be helpfull..
plus u can look on the bright side.. ull know when that angry player will be coming..
the assault rifle only kills effectively at up to 66 meters anything at 67 and above and u rnt doing hardly any damage with that regular assault rifle.
and because of rendering problems snipers can snipe without worry..
my idea will put some actual risk into using that sniper class..
all that big red arrow needs to do is mark the place u r hiding around...no need to put it directly over your head..
but it sounds like it would be easier to code if it was.. ( it could also just mark your position on the radar/minimap for 10-15 seconds after firing your gun)
sure some players have an obsession with killing players using officer weapons in pub matches.
and the player should deserve that death for bringing it in the first place.
so think of that big red arrow over your head after your first several shots as a buff for helping u become aware of whats around you and not whats in front of your scope.
after all it is ironic when a giant loud explosion can easily be heard right BEHIND you and yet u not notice anything at all...
this wont change the camp spots that rnt in the redzone much but it will get rid of those redline snipers that majority of every1 on this game hates so much.
dont try to defend it..
it will only prove how childish u really are as it wont kill sniping at all.. it will only mean u will need to be more accurate with your shots.
and judging by how most ground players will often ignore vehicles and snipers.
the only player u have to worry about is that player u have annoyed and made so angry to waste several isk into just finding u and killing u once.
and so it shouldnt be too hard to counter that player.
your idea is not a buff. i don't know if you know, but the battles are constantly shifting from place to place, and a sniper's main tactic is to go where the battle is and might be, and set up camp or something. from what i hear from you is that you don't fully take the time to track said sniper and snipe or kill him, but instead want to make the game easier for you to not change tactics when the job calls for it. you just don't like getting sniped, as a lot of people and so want snipers to be easily spotted and hunted down to extinction. before you make such a change, make it also fair for snipers to be able to be effective. otherwise you just killed off sniping for good. |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:06:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:1. The snipers are a rail gun. Last time I checked a magnet makes no noise when it's in use. The only noise that would come from a sniper being fired is the noise from the initial charge up.
2. If someone is camping, than how hard is it to snipe back or go out to them and kill them?
3. If it's called camping when i am, stationary whilst sniping than should I call the guy using a duvolle just floating around an objective a chicken cause he's guarding a point and not seeking combat?
It seems that you just had a rough go at it with sniping and being sniped.
I have one question for you 117, do you snipe?
he only counter snipes when he gets sniped, not a dedicated sniper from what i read |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:30:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i use all classes...
but only when the situation calls for them...
the caldari sniper rifle is a form of a rail gun.
but it still makes a loud whistle/screeching noise when fired. so its easily heard.
that guy with the ar just floating around?
why it sounds like hes trying to defend the objective from any players that would try to sneak around where majority of the players are.
its hard to snipe a player thats glitching. or out of render range.
and next to impossible to snipe some1 camping in the redzone with a charge or thale. with a std sr or a std tac sr.
which is the main weapon used by most counter snipers.
the many times ive picked up a sniper rifle was for the intent to counter snipe.
and the many places ive sniped from have been the places i was last hit by snipers.
and what i normally do is try to find the sniper by scanning the area from where i was last hit from with that sr scope.
and most of the time this little tactic fails. because that "sniper" is either hidden out of rendering range or using a glitch.
my idea fixes that problem.
most players already spot the current rooftop snipers/campers that r out of the redzone.
very easily and very quickly r they spotted.. but the only time they get obliterated is when some1 gets angry enough to waste the isk on a ds and clear them out.
so with this in mind i only see it affecting those who hide in the redzone.
your idea will affect all snipers, meaning it will be useless to even pick up a sniper, camping or not. that is just like having a death wish |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:57:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:entering any part of the battle in the first place is a death wish.
when i pick up some nova knives do i expect to die? yes.
when i pick up an assault rifle do i expect to die? yes.
when i enter a vehicle do i expect to die? yes.
when i bring out some proto gear should i expect to die? yes.
when u pick up a sniper rifle and snipe from the redzone do u expect to die? no u dont.
well i think its time to change that.
to me that sounds like a red line problem. new flash, forge guns can do the same to some extent, as well as rail tanks (if no render issue). find a better idea to stop red line sniping rather then single out the entire sniper class and then maybe you won't get red line sniped |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:23:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:and that^ every1 is how to draw out a stupid troll..
thanks for your help by wasting your own time!.
now i laugh at your stupidity for trying so hard to go against my posts on here which i dont really find important at all..
first mistake, I wasn't trolling, you just never made your intentions known. second mistake, you made a suggestion abotu snipers, but not about the red line. you sir fail. to me, sounds like a sore loser |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:08:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:and this^
im unpredictable.
my post history shall lie to u...
at times im serious. other times im bored.
and so i come up with my own personal time wasters because i have nothing better to do currently.
and guess what i dont really care.
im just messing around with this thread now.
it became a spam thread at the beginning on the first page when u all first posted the to try and "shoot down" my "suggestion" and yet u all failed to ignore it.
and thats why i find it funny.
so i thought i might as well just add to the dumb endless conversation. and keep it up as long as possible.
i pretty much turned it into a game for myself. (out of boredom)
so......
i win!.
sounds like a sore loser who is making up excuses now. so sad |
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Posted - 2013.10.11 18:29:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:^worst....comment...ever...
sounds like someone is angry about being deceived by my several posts.
and the even funnier part is u r still desperately trying to to turn this around towards me.
which from what i can tell. isnt working.
and now for my even more important question.
why hasnt this thread been locked for spam yet?
and your doing the same. honestly not even a bit angry. question for you, how smart do you think you are? you say you can tell, but you can't. writing words don't show expressions, so of course you only assume |
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