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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 07:00:00 -
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hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
273
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Posted - 2013.08.15 07:00:00 -
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That makes too much sense for CCP to ever allow. Sorry, not going to happen. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7300
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:14:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu?
While we are at it OMS objects as well :P, I had one slam though my dropship. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? While we are at it OMS objects as well :P, I had one slam though my dropship. Are we at it though? I feel like this has never/will never be addressed.
Same with that turret "magnet" bug. Since uprising its been screwing my gunners. Nobody wants to gun for dropship anymore because of how annoying the turret reset bug is.
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Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD
59
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:42:00 -
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Thank you
Yes - this sh*t is random (probably too random for CCP to make an effort into a timely, prompt fix). But, it's randomly ridiculous.
As a temp fix to this. RDV should never spawn anywhere near aerial vehicles. Plus, flying near one should just magically push it away and keep it always at, say, 15m away...
At least until theres a better workaround for this crap.
And turrets need to stop f*cking up aim, as well, just because you swivel too far left or right towards the hull of the DS.
For real, CCP. Get on this, or play test your crap to see how annoying it is before you release it on the live builds... stop outsourcing, get better programmers, whatever...
Sheesh, the programing quality is so bad, even for a free game. Especially, considering there are people who are contributing through all the micro transactions and such... We're all tired of bit*ching on the forums over these obscene imbalances and qualities... |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Top Men.
1148
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Posted - 2013.08.15 09:50:00 -
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waiting for the day I can call the installations manually.
No, really I'm not deliberately trying to put a supply depot through your HAV.
HONEST! |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:59:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Isjgc0oX0s |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
190
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:02:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu?
nope because your probably a forgeunner who wants to go on top of a tower and FG sniper... If the DS has a FG in it, The DS should self destruct... |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
448
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:06:00 -
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wut? |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
520
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:06:00 -
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It's not the RDV, it's the Caldari A.I. CCP we need Gallente RDVs. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:10:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? nope because your probably a forgeunner who wants to go on top of a tower and FG sniper... If the DS has a FG in it, The DS should self destruct... I only use militia FG. It's OP enough to not require speccing into or upgrading really.
But I only use it when I've lost too much isk from stupid RDV's flying out of the void and into my ships |
Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
104
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:10:00 -
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Haven't been killed by an RDV since the old AI was replaced with these awesome RDV pilots (knock on wood) |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:12:00 -
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Be flying million isk dropship Be anywhere, any speed, any height. RDV de-cloaks inside of you or 2 feet away. Be unable to dodge death via any input possible Accept fate, explode instantly on impact Tell CCP game mechanic is dumb. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:13:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Haven't been killed by an RDV since the old AI was replaced with these awesome RDV pilots (knock on wood)
Know what changed about the AI?
It they just have less time in the air and spawn in a little lower, then disappear a little quicker. But they still get you all the same. There was no AI added which precludes them from hitting right into you out of the void. Therefore, they do. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
172
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:26:00 -
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they should have vehicles drop in via the same method as oms drops and be called in via the same method as orbitals. rdv's then should only be used for recalling vehicles and they should spawn in at max height and have collision avoidance programming.
this would fix alot of issues |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:31:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:they should have vehicles drop in via the same method as oms drops and be called in via the same method as orbitals. rdv's then should only be used for recalling vehicles and they should spawn in at max height and have collision avoidance programming.
this would fix alot of issues
Or simply having collision avoidance would work BLOODY WONDERS.
From a militiy perspective, why the hell would you have a system in place where some RDV drops off your vehicles while plowing through your pre-existing vehicles.
And as far as hitting enemy ones, you may not know the mass of the object you're about to hit. It could be a heavy aircraft or a DS made of 3 armor plates. How about not entirely ignoring airspace traffic like a drunk evil santa. |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
172
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:42:00 -
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come to think of it. why are dust pilots not able to fly rdv's. have a spawn platform somewhere in the redline. when someone places an order the vehicle spawns at this point and is locked. the rdv pilot then flys over and picks up the vehicle and drops it of at the requested location. a succesfull drop earns them wp and a small transport fee (deduct it from the vehicle cost so as not to affect overall cost of vehicles). a failed dropoff earns you nothing.
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1090
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:50:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:come to think of it. why are dust pilots not able to fly rdv's. have a spawn platform somewhere in the redline. when someone places an order the vehicle spawns at this point and is locked. the rdv pilot then flys over and picks up the vehicle and drops it of at the requested location. a succesfull drop earns them wp and a small transport fee (deduct it from the vehicle cost so as not to affect overall cost of vehicles). a failed dropoff earns you nothing.
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs
Hell no would I ever trust the average ****whit on this game with the transport of my vehicle. Counter productive to the locks we've been trying to get forever. Here, now you can balls it up before I even get a chance to see what I paid for.
No. |
Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
13
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:23:00 -
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This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwd5tnW0FU or the in-flight kills? |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1400
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? While we are at it OMS objects as well :P, I had one slam though my dropship.
Look both ways before crossing the battlefield... |
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Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2299
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:28:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Be flying million isk dropship Be anywhere, any speed, any height. RDV de-cloaks inside of you or 2 feet away. Be unable to dodge death via any input possible Accept fate, explode instantly on impact Tell CCP game mechanic is dumb.
Be on ground with no AV See million ISK dropship above Call in militia LAV RDV de-cloaks inside of dropship or 2 feet away |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1092
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:35:00 -
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In flight. These deployment bugs are pretty rare now |
Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
13
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:45:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:In flight. These deployment bugs are pretty rare now
Haven't experienced THAT myself yet. Fingers crossed |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1092
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:51:00 -
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Sgt Pseudo wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:In flight. These deployment bugs are pretty rare now Haven't experienced THAT myself yet. Fingers crossed
Fly more. Itll happen |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
623
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Posted - 2013.08.15 20:57:00 -
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Call the dropship from a supply depot.
Most of the time they have designated landing pads and will be quicker deliveries than anywhere else. |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1093
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:03:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Call the dropship from a supply depot.
Most of the time they have designated landing pads and will be quicker deliveries than anywhere else.
What the hell are you smoking? |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
172
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Posted - 2013.08.16 06:22:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs
Hell no would I ever trust the average ****whit on this game with the transport of my vehicle. Counter productive to the locks we've been trying to get forever. Here, now you can balls it up before I even get a chance to see what I paid for. No.
dont trust your corp mates then why bother playing with them |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1093
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Posted - 2013.08.16 06:37:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs
Hell no would I ever trust the average ****whit on this game with the transport of my vehicle. Counter productive to the locks we've been trying to get forever. Here, now you can balls it up before I even get a chance to see what I paid for. No. dont trust your corp mates then why bother playing with them
What are you talking about?
Corp mates factor into this how? Do I always and only play with corp mates? Would only corp mates be able to control RDVs? wattt |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
201
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Posted - 2013.08.16 06:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? While we are at it OMS objects as well :P, I had one slam though my dropship.
Please, no - I look forward to requesting OMS objects to be deployed on top of enemies... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1137
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Posted - 2013.08.16 06:47:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? no, you shouldn't be flying in the first place. HTFU and pick up a rifle. |
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1094
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Posted - 2013.08.16 16:33:00 -
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New players will probably love losing this much Isk to arbitrary bs! Its great for player retention.
But, its not like Dust needs any help in this region |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
172
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:22:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs
Hell no would I ever trust the average ****whit on this game with the transport of my vehicle. Counter productive to the locks we've been trying to get forever. Here, now you can balls it up before I even get a chance to see what I paid for. No. dont trust your corp mates then why bother playing with them What are you talking about? Corp mates factor into this how? Do I always and only play with corp mates? Would only corp mates be able to control RDVs? wattt
what are you talking about. you obviously didnt read all i wrote or even the above quote which stated in both to make it pc only |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
146
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:02:00 -
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I called out 40 MLT derpships yesterday to practice my flying, lost 0 to RDVs |
Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1094
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Posted - 2013.08.16 20:04:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:I called out 40 MLT derpships yesterday to practice my flying, lost 0 to RDVs So what are you saying? It never happens? You onow they only go after good ships, why the hell would they care to hit your 67, 000 isk pile of derp? |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2299
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:08:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? no, you shouldn't be flying in the first place. HTFU and pick up a rifle.
Uh, dropships are Dust 514 Hard Mode. Most pilots are guys looking for a bigger challenge than the one dimensional ground and pound play of infantry combat. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2299
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:10:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:I called out 40 MLT derpships yesterday to practice my flying, lost 0 to RDVs
How did you manage to go through 40 dropships in a single day? I mean, if you're going through that many I can't imagine you getting hit by much of anything other than the ground as you smash your ships into it repeatedly. |
Valeryy Igunen
Nexus Marines
5
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:52:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:come to think of it. why are dust pilots not able to fly rdv's. have a spawn platform somewhere in the redline. when someone places an order the vehicle spawns at this point and is locked. the rdv pilot then flys over and picks up the vehicle and drops it of at the requested location. a succesfull drop earns them wp and a small transport fee (deduct it from the vehicle cost so as not to affect overall cost of vehicles). a failed dropoff earns you nothing.
i suggest this as only a pc vehicle so as not to be abused for griefing in pubs
We tried that, it's really difficult to be an RDV pilot
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoJZUW_4Zw8 |
Beld Errmon
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
813
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:59:00 -
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RDVs are so deadly that its actually a good tactic to call in am LAV when a dropship is attacking you, besides making RDVs completely transparent when it comes to dmg dealt theres no way to actually fix this and its completely F'd in the A for dropship pilots, as if having hand held tank guns fired at you isn't enough, the AI randomly take yous out doesn't matter if its a red or blue RDV they'll both Fing pwn you. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
294
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:10:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:I called out 40 MLT derpships yesterday to practice my flying, lost 0 to RDVs
Probably because you didn't practice your flying near the action. Try hovering over infantry low enough...you know, to actually get some kills...
I can fly all day up in the sky without dying. When actually doing something useful, RDV are 30-60% of my ADS losts.
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martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
294
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:12:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:RDVs are so deadly that its actually a good tactic to call in am LAV when a dropship is attacking you, besides making RDVs completely transparent when it comes to dmg dealt theres no way to actually fix this and its completely F'd in the A for dropship pilots, as if having hand held tank guns fired at you isn't enough, the AI randomly take yous out doesn't matter if its a red or blue RDV they'll both Fing pwn you.
Maybes some avoidance mechanical, reduced damage for slow speed collision, preventing vehicle calls when DS in radius. There is ways, CCP just need to look into it. |
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:42:00 -
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Shameless plug of another thread but I think the RDV's deserve their opinion on the matter:
A message from your RDV |
DS 10
Pure Innocence. EoN.
746
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:42:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:hu? Sounds like a good idea, hu? nope because your probably a forgeunner who wants to go on top of a tower and FG sniper... If the DS has a FG in it, The DS should self destruct...
Here's a tissue. Dry your eyes. |
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