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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Ascifi Ogrop wrote:

Laurent Cazaderon wrote:

Okay my turn now.

I'm so amazed by the self righteous reaction i see both here and on twitter... Oh the rules, THE RULES. Incredible how we hear about them only when some loses.

To clarify one thing. Some called us cheaters. Like we intentionally decided to wrong the game. Thing is we played with..... Drums Rolling.... WTFR players. Yes some werent registeredon Urgent ****IN Fury, me included. But to me that's not the point.

The point is. Do you, the players we fought and won against, actually think we wronged you in the players we used ? Were you surprised to see some people in our roster when the game started ? At any point did you get the feeling you were not playing against WTFR ? I think i can safely say : No.

So dont pretend to be the righteous one and glorify the rules when you know you wouldnt give a **** in different circumstances. Just admit you just cant stand the loss and wanna use anything possible to get your precious win back. But dont act like victims of an outrageous abuse..

Conclusion, i wont deny the technical fault. CCP can cope with your whining and disqualify us directly cause in case of rematch, we wont change anything if we dont have all the registered players available. We'll use other members of the corp. That's it.

You can hide all you want behind rules, all i see are sad losers.

And to answer specifically to someone who said "lol sad day when one of the corps i held in high regard tries to legitimize cheatin in a tournament. Just another loldust moment ". Dude, get down your high horse cause first we dont give a crap bout what you may think of us, and second you're very quick on judging people when you could take a good look at yourself at some point.

I'm out of this ****.

Nice your a CPM and this is your attitude? No doubt if the shoe was on the other foot, you would be singing a different tune, the site was easy to register on, it's a poor excuse and my final point will be on lag, I heard on more then one occasion that you had lag on losses, be it in pc matches or this tourney, but hey ho, you only have yourselves to blame.

I dont see at all why being CPM should change anything at my opinion. This has nothing to do with what i do as CPM and wont change anything at the way i do it. Second, i dont deny the technicality. I'm just criticizing the attitude around it trying to pass us for what we arent when you have no idea neither why nor in which state of mind we used those players. At no point we ever thought we were doing anything wrong here. And at no point was it an attempt to cheat our way to a win as our top players were the ones registered.

So yeah. Whatever dude. In the end, i actually dont give a damn about this tourney nor its prizes. There are just things i just cant stand.

WTFR whipped asses and that's it.

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Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 71	Posted - 2013.09.07 07:13:00 - [1] - Quote This might not be the perfect place for it, but it seems CCP is following this thread pretty closely. In future tournaments can we not be required to use Urgent Fury. I would have rather just registered by posting on this forum! I would also suggest that only the CEO is required to register (whatever form that takes) and any corp member can participate in a tournament battle. Figure out and share the exact format of the tournament ahead of time and do not change any rules or requirements mid way through.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 75	Posted - 2013.09.13 02:18:00 - [2] - Quote Delta Iddon wrote: olssam 62 wrote: look Traky78 wrote: Hum... We just give some life to your EU tournament, with everytime a full 16 of What The French, real What The French. Some of players couldn't register on Urgent fury, some were in holidays, some haven't PC... So yes we broke those **** rule but how many EU corps can actually put 16 players every two days ? I mean real corp, not corp created to win the tournament ( yes No Free Pass i see you ), so CCP you are actually allowing players to create a corp just for a tournament and those same players just come in this CORP the day of the battle. So CCP for your next tournament, i 'll take the best EU players and they 'll jump in my corp the day of the battle. Is there any rules to avoid jump corp ? This is an issue CCP need to be warned for the next tournament. Yes the next ... We all know this one were a test. A lot of corps broke this absurd rule since the begening of your tourney. Dear CCP, just admit this rule was bull* and let people from the CORP since more 2 weeks participate. I apologize to everybody for the inconvenience, personnally GAC. But we just wanted to give you all good fights. Bare in mind that the only reason most of the NFP's members are in NFP is because they didn't have the numbers to do a 16v16 format after UF changed it from 8v8 to 16v16, hell i initially joined NFP as one of the backbench to make the numbers up to allow NFP to compete, i didn't plan on being one of the main players Our random selection of people still managed to make up at least 12-16 members every match night, so it is not just you that was "bringing life to the tourney" another thing to note is that CCP did not control this tourney, the rules provided are from urgent fury, the (apparent) hosts You broke the rules that other corps have followed to the T, it doesn't matter how stupid you think a rule is, you cant just break it and think you are innocent on the basis that "the rule is dumb" I'm glad you admitted to breaking the rules instead of trying to cover it up, not many teams would do that, but to then be proud of it and try to justify it by your opinions of the rules AND by claiming that your corp is the reason the tourney is running is pretty astonishing. The rules on players having to register on UF to participate are stupid beyond belief. Add on the change on format as well as the change in numbers allowed to register without proper communication and you end up with an extremely frustrating situation. We have followed these ** rules to the tea and would expect that from everyone (although we have seen members that did not seem registered in the fights we were able to make). Hence why you have seen anywhere from 3-14 members of our 19 that were able to register participating. In the future it's a simple fix. CEO registers corp for tournament and all members that participate in any battle must have belonged to the corp before the tournament starts (and still belong to it!). We would have much better 16 on 16 matches then in every battle and the results would be a much better representation of a corps abilities.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 78	Posted - 2013.09.13 14:49:00 - [3] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Ascifi Ogrop wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: Okay my turn now. I'm so amazed by the self righteous reaction i see both here and on twitter... Oh the rules, THE RULES. Incredible how we hear about them only when some loses. To clarify one thing. Some called us cheaters. Like we intentionally decided to wrong the game. Thing is we played with..... Drums Rolling.... WTFR players. Yes some werent registeredon Urgent **IN Fury, me included. But to me that's not the point. The point is. Do you, the players we fought and won against, actually think we wronged you in the players we used ? Were you surprised to see some people in our roster when the game started ? At any point did you get the feeling you were not playing against WTFR ? I think i can safely say : No. So dont pretend to be the righteous one and glorify the rules when you know you wouldnt give a in different circumstances. Just admit you just cant stand the loss and wanna use anything possible to get your precious win back. But dont act like victims of an outrageous abuse.. Conclusion, i wont deny the technical fault. CCP can cope with your whining and disqualify us directly cause in case of rematch, we wont change anything if we dont have all the registered players available. We'll use other members of the corp. That's it. You can hide all you want behind rules, all i see are sad losers. And to answer specifically to someone who said "lol sad day when one of the corps i held in high regard tries to legitimize cheatin in a tournament. Just another loldust moment ". Dude, get down your high horse cause first we dont give a crap bout what you may think of us, and second you're very quick on judging people when you could take a good look at yourself at some point. I'm out of this **. Nice your a CPM and this is your attitude? No doubt if the shoe was on the other foot, you would be singing a different tune, the site was easy to register on, it's a poor excuse and my final point will be on lag, I heard on more then one occasion that you had lag on losses, be it in pc matches or this tourney, but hey ho, you only have yourselves to blame. I dont see at all why being CPM should change anything at my opinion. This has nothing to do with what i do as CPM and wont change anything at the way i do it. Second, i dont deny the technicality. I'm just criticizing the attitude around it trying to pass us for what we arent when you have no idea neither why nor in which state of mind we used those players. At no point we ever thought we were doing anything wrong here. And at no point was it an attempt to cheat our way to a win as our top players were the ones registered. So yeah. Whatever dude. In the end, i actually dont give a damn about this tourney nor its prizes. There are just things i just cant stand. WTFR whipped asses and that's it. I don't agree with the point but I would like to point out the 'rules' did change mid sign up process without good communication to participants. Although the rules should be followed the fact they changed messed over a number of us. Hopefully next time their are clear and simple rules at the outset with ALL corp members allowed to participate, if not we will not be involved.