And, this is for the OP, but if you're on a team like that, then either become HAMF and be better than the other team with whatever players are capping objectives or find another team to play with. It's always going to happen no matter how much CCP fiddles with the high spots.

I swear none of you read any of this post, just the title and decided to post. The last 3 posts are saying the same **** in different words. All of which has been addressed through to the post.

I've ignored talking in this subject for some time, as I believe this tactic is viable, but some issues arise because of this. I've seen other posts were people wanted ground access to rooftops, and I am against that. Access only by dropship gives them somewhat of a purpose, as well as cover from the onslaught of av on the field. I do believe there does need to be some balance though, as this tactic just encourages camping, usually half a team, with them not pushing any objectives. I have a few ideas that may help combat this issue.

First off, all rooftop spots should be within 2 types of ranges. The highest points should still be well within range of snipers on the ground, even more so than they are now. At the base the range to the top let's say 250 meters max.
The second range should be within sleek throwing grenade distance. Their should be no heights above or between these two ranges, but lower ones would be acceptable.

Second, none of the higher areas should have overhead cover whatsoever. This way orbitals can always deal with the rooftop dwellers and their equipment.

Third, there should be less room to completely hide from ground troops. As is players take a round or two, move back 1m and are instantly safe to self rep. Majority of the high ground should be slopped to prevent abuse, and encourage players to use the rooftops for a short while to gain a tactical advantage, but then move in to take objectives, or just jump down to find better cover.

Lastly, it it's too easy to move around massive parts of these massive rooftops and cover entire areas of the map. To combat this, roofs should have smaller sectioned off areas, so players that do get up there will be confined to smaller areas of field of views. This way, if a player's chosen spot isn't seeing much action, they either jump down or have to call in another dropship to relocate.

I agree. I put in a post last week about making sniping more difficult. Make them use dropshots like BF3 if they want to hug the rooftops, make it harder for them to land a shot. If it's an energy weapon like the charge sniper rifle, make it lose energy at greater distances, ,meaning by the time the shot hits you on the ground, it does half the damage or something like that.

I guess CCP could disallow spawn beacons above ground level, and nanohives. That would make them run out of bullets eventually.

Either way, something has to be done about it, I can name 4 users I see every weekend that do nothing but that same tactic over and over. People always remind me Dust is about risk. Well, what are they risking then by sitting way up there?

I'm assuming they're sniping and not AV... Counter snipe if you see their names in the lobby or use a dropship... and the snipers are rail guns, like the forge gun which shoots metal slugs at 7,000 m/s, so in the distances that the sniper rifle can engage at (definitely within 7 km) There would be little to no drop off of the projectile.

And if you keep running into the same people doing the same thing it should be easy for you to gat them back.

Ah the realism argument. Keep in mind that we're playing a game with clones, energy weapons, spaceships, etc. I think realism went out the window a while ago.

I do see your point, and understand the physics quite well. However, the point is something needs to be done. It was merely a suggestion to allow the people that do it to keep doing it, just make them work for it more. It is getting a bit tired and out of hand. And I do counter snipe, however, I don't regularly play as a sniper, I dabble in it only because i have the covenant rifle. I mainly run assault.

However, I think my no uplink/nanohive above a certain height idea is decent though. That way they have to come down at some point, or miss out on kills and become useless to their team.

Either way, something has to be done about it, I can name 4 users I see every weekend that do nothing but that same tactic over and over. People always remind me Dust is about risk. Well, what are they risking then by sitting way up there?

There are plenty of risks. Dropships can sneak up on me. Orbital strikes can be dropped on my head. Sniper teams can kill me before I have time to react. Forge gunners and railgun tanks can take me out in one shot. The list goes on.

Didn't know balancing terrain to encourage team play on objectives was a nerf. Obviously your one of those players to scared to attack an objective, so you sit somewhere safe to pad kdr. It's OK to admit you have no skills, I forgive you.

I'm a Heavy HMG that rushes the front line.

Access only by dropship gives them somewhat of a purpose

as well as cover from the onslaught of av on the field.

Ugggghhhhhh, Just thinking about that makes my tummy hurt

Hopefully the armor buff will make up for the lack of range/horrible dispersion the HMG has.

I don't need the armor buffs, I just need to be smart and stay in CQB.

I've ignored talking in this subject for some time, as I believe this tactic is viable, but some issues arise because of this. I've seen other posts were people wanted ground access to rooftops, and I am against that. Access only by dropship gives them somewhat of a purpose, as well as cover from the onslaught of av on the field. I do believe there does need to be some balance though, as this tactic just encourages camping, usually half a team, with them not pushing any objectives. I have a few ideas that may help combat this issue.

First off, all rooftop spots should be within 2 types of ranges. The highest points should still be well within range of snipers on the ground, even more so than they are now. At the base the range to the top let's say 250 meters max.
The second range should be within sleek throwing grenade distance. Their should be no heights above or between these two ranges, but lower ones would be acceptable.

Second, none of the higher areas should have overhead cover whatsoever. This way orbitals can always deal with the rooftop dwellers and their equipment.

Third, there should be less room to completely hide from ground troops. As is players take a round or two, move back 1m and are instantly safe to self rep. Majority of the high ground should be slopped to prevent abuse, and encourage players to use the rooftops for a short while to gain a tactical advantage, but then move in to take objectives, or just jump down to find better cover.

Lastly, it it's too easy to move around massive parts of these massive rooftops and cover entire areas of the map. To combat this, roofs should have smaller sectioned off areas, so players that do get up there will be confined to smaller areas of field of views. This way, if a player's chosen spot isn't seeing much action, they either jump down or have to call in another dropship to relocate.

while the rooftop camping is a problem to the ground players, there is an easy counter.

have an assault dropship (me) fly up there and terrorize them until they jump off or die, and I would suggest taking out the equipment first to prevent re-spawn and replenish ammo