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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:14:00 -
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A simple question CCP. When you already have a minor presence on Playstation Home (the Event Horizon Lounge, and four drop suits), what has limited you from selling products on the Home platform? Despite initial appearances, Playstation Home seems to be a very strong, albeit quiet money maker. Several companies run exclusively with Home producing digital assets with a high profit margin on these goods. I am not sure how difficult it is to render your current art and model assets into PS Home; however, as a PS Home user myself I would certainly purchase what you produce.
Dust Logistics Costume
Event Horizon Lounge
Dust community, please discuss what assets you would like to see introduced to Home. For instance, these assets might be concept art posters, racial themed quarters, or corporation conference spaces.
PS: I would love to see a Gallente and Amarr Assault Drop Suits added to PS Home. Currently only the Gallente Scout, Minmatar Logi, Amarr Heavy, and Caldari Assault are available with access to the Slay minigame. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
22
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:37:00 -
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After some more thought, I would certainly be interested in seeing a fully futuristic casino. If only there could be full integration with one's merc account on this. |
HeroicShot
DUST University
Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:43:00 -
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lol i like the idea of playing poker with isk and actually taking your winnings to be used towards gear in dust 514. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1218
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:44:00 -
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The PS Home players do seem like the type of players that have interest in a free to play product while still showing they are willing to dish out a lot of money for virtual goods, aren't they? |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
22
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The PS Home players do seem like the type of players that have interest in a free to play product while still showing they are willing to dish out a lot of money for virtual goods, aren't they?
Seems like a target market indeed. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:47:00 -
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why would i care how CCP is making money? |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
22
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:03:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:why would i care how CCP is making money?
Well Sir, more money in the developers hands usually equates to an ability to produce more content for a title. Especially a free to play one. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
22
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:12:00 -
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HeroicShot wrote:lol i like the idea of playing poker with isk and actually taking your winnings to be used towards gear in dust 514.
Ideally, winnings in the PS Home casino should equate to unlocking tiers of both freely awarded items and discounts on in-game arrum items such as the Store Bundles and Legacy M.A.G. suits. A skilled player could have the ability to grind these games for a decent discount on these bundle packs. To play in the casino a player would be provided a low amount of starter funds, onto which the player would then have to place down real-world funds once their initial holdings ran out. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
22
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:39:00 -
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Sneak Peak of Minmatar Heavy Quarters on PS4 Home |
FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
51
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:02:00 -
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I could see that happening :) Already have the war-barge. With some re-tooling of the interior, would make a good atmosphere for a casino. Although would most likely have to be enlarged, or multiple ones set up. |
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:03:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:why would i care how CCP is making money? Well Sir, more money in the developers hands usually equates to an ability to produce more content for a title. Especially a free to play one.
then go buy some AURUM
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Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:24:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:why would i care how CCP is making money? Well Sir, more money in the developers hands usually equates to an ability to produce more content for a title. Especially a free to play one. then go buy some AURUM
Sure. I'm only proposing an additional outlet for revenue generation. As was discussed in the Gamasutra article, micro-transactions with models and art assets are quite profitable with regards to the ease with which these goods can be created and distributed on a digital market, vs, the higher investment of developing a full fledged game title.
Additionally, a general feeling within the community appears to be that people want more meaningful and varied content to spend their aurum on; not simply buying aurum for the sake of more aurum. The appeal of buying mercenary and veteran packs seem to lose their edge when you accumulate 4 to 5 copies of the Toxin AR. |
FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:32:00 -
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... The appeal of buying mercenary and veteran packs seem to lose their edge when you accumulate 4 to 5 copies of the Toxin AR.[/quote]
Agreed. CCP should really swap out all but the aurum for other gear/equipment periodically.
Oops, I guess I hacked too much out of that quote.. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
663
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:43:00 -
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PS Home Arena where you can watch battles and bet on them. Or something.
I just want new rewards for Slay  |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
26
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:50:00 -
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Not to say that we should have a repeat of the monocle-gate pricing fiasco, yet Eve online has a tremendous amount of clothing and vanity items already. Why not port such content over and cut into a market of non-eve players who still enjoy the sci-fi spacer style.
Eve Incarna Clothes 1
Eve Incarna Clothes 2
Eve Incarna Clothes 3
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Flux Raeder
WarRavens
League of Infamy
143
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:00:00 -
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I was thinking just this exact thing a couple weeks ago. I know a lot of dust users use home and would even pay a couple bucks here and there for home items alone. The rest of the home community likes the look of the dust suits too and would probably shell out a lot over time, as it is I have already been asked where I got my suite several times.
And integrating pshome spaces/gambling/social networking with dust would be a HUGE step towards the direction I think CCP wants to take dust, being a widespread, very accessible universe focused on new eden
Edit: seriously, the more I think about it the more I realize CCP could make BANK off of this if they push for it, I hope they do because they seem to be lagging on funds considering how hard they are pushing aurum lately |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1215
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:29:00 -
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They shouldn't have to do anything with Home at all.
They have their own assets they can use for doing stuff in the game itself, they just refuse to do it.
Hilmar is worried it will cause another riot and people will blame him, so he's holding both games back from having that kind of social content. It will be a cold day in hell before they put that content on Home, however. That would be admitting they don't have what it takes to see their vision through to the end.
So the content will stay in limbo and you will see nothing, until Hilmar has finally had enough sulking in the corner over the Jita riots and decides to get back on the horse. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
28
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:59:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:They have their own assets they can use for doing stuff in the game itself, they just refuse to do it.
From that point, all I am wondering is how much server space would be needed to expand such social aspects of the game. It seems like quite a lot. On the other hand, the infrastructure is mostly already in place on the PS Home. By releasing assets to PS Home, CCP would be outsourcing this aspect of Dust 514 to at least get the ball rolling on more MMO metagaming. Honestly, what's wrong with dual game integration. If PS Home moves onto the playstation 4 I could see this becoming a major force with social gaming.Sony's discussion about instant-on games appears to be moving in a direction of being able to move between games, or having the option of having a game-lobby shard of PS Home always on and ready to step into from another game in order to meet up with other people. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7223
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:01:00 -
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Why have it in home? when you can have it ingame? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1222
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Why have it in home? when you can have it ingame?
While I would like it in game, the people in game don't really need to be advertised to download Dust now do they? There's a bunch of potential customers in Home. |
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Funky Chunky
FunkyStars
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:42:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Why have it in home? when you can have it ingame? While I would like it in game, the people in game don't really need to be advertised to download Dust now do they? There's a bunch of potential customers in Home.
They could have a different version in both |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens
League of Infamy
145
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:28:00 -
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Funky Chunky wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Why have it in home? when you can have it ingame? While I would like it in game, the people in game don't really need to be advertised to download Dust now do they? There's a bunch of potential customers in Home. They could have a different version in both
Exactly, and as it was said earlier, the infrastructure is already there. It seems like the work/profit margin would be greatly in CCPs favour, and if they combined both at some point then that would be excellent.
As it stands now though from what I have heard it sounds like CCPs servers are already pretty tight, glad a CPM is here though, maybe this could be brought up at one of your future meetings. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
30
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:23:00 -
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Can Home Survive on the PS4?
A good and quick read from PlayStation Magazine provides several points on extending Home into the next-generation ecosystem. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
31
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:20:00 -
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I would really find it kind of fitting to see a game of five finger fillet in the Minmatar Gambling Den.
Although, 20000 years into the future somebody likely has an implant and pneumatic actuators to win this game in a heartbeat.
In all honesty, this five finger fillet also oddly works in a context where you can replace out your old body if it gets damaged. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
Better Academy.
531
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:40:00 -
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I feel that CCP could turn a profit from offering their Incarna clothes line for sale from the dust 514 catina by giving it the same name as their current line of real-world store clothing: The Zero.Zero collection.
Perhaps they could sell various collectibles, such as the dust 514 weapons, I wouldn't mind running around with a forge gun or hmg on my heavy that I have in home. They could even put the dust 514 vehicles for sale as decorations, so I could have a methana or madrugar (with preset racial turret) in either a full-size vehicle or scale model. |
Jadek Menaheim
WarRavens
League of Infamy
32
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:01:00 -
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I think it would also be tremendously meaningful to see a digital version of H+Šttuspil, or the "Danger Game" which helped fund the production of Eve Online. |
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