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Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.13 10:01:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:No, I rarely see CPM conversing with the forumers on game related issues. Iron Wolf is probably the only one who keeps in contact with us but he doesnt really represent a majority of the community but more as an individual player who sees other people having a problem. Most of the stuff CPM do for CCP is hush hush or very discreet so we dont even know what they do for us.
CPM should be more open with the community and people should react to their tag like we do for CCP devs ( -SoxFour). Thats just my opinion.
Sounds like you should read some of the CPM Activity Reports Hans has put up in the Council's Chamber section. They do actually tell us what they've been up to in quite some detail. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.13 10:22:00 -
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Lol Buster, this has not turned out the way you thought, hey? You thought you'd get hundreds of people shouting, "No! The CPM doesn't represent s**t!" but what you actually got has been 4 pages and only a handful of people agreeing with you. Will you stop now? Doubt it.
What you should really take from all of this is that we don't need anyone representing us right now. We need someone to make a framework so that we can be represented in the future - that is what the CPM is doing. That is why they're called CPM0 and not CPM1 - they are not a 'real' CPM; they are pre-CPM.
When the CPM is eventually elected, I highly doubt anyone will be running with the thought that they want to spend their entire time trying to figure out how to interact effectively with CCP. I don't think anyone is going to want to be searching around to find out who in CCP to talk to about their electorate's concerns. CPM1 will be wanting to get things done and be able to represent the players effectively - they will not be able to even remotely do this without CPM0 setting up the framework for all this now like they are.
TL:DR - there is no point having representation when there's no way to represent and the people being represented to aren't there/listening. |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.08.13 10:24:00 -
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And just to answer the actual OP myself - yes, I think CPM0 represents me because they care about setting up a framework for future CPMs and that is something I greatly care about too. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:31:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:I do also see people saying exactly what I've said, and that is that the CPM should be working on getting an elected version in place.
I guess it's just more important to me than most. No biggie, I'm used to not being supported by the majority, and that isn't a bad thing.
I haven't seen a single person in this thread saying 'exactly what you've said' and no one calling for elections ASAP, so please direct me to anything I've missed here.
I appreciate that you're doing all this in at least a respectful and moderate manner (which is much more approachable than some other posters on these forums) but I think you're in a pretty small minority on this exact matter. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:38:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:See Captain-Awesome's quote. That's pretty much my viewpoint word for word. He's not the first in this thread either.
But he hasn't said anything about needing elections ASAP like you've been advocating. No one agrees with that. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:43:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Django Quik wrote:Buster Friently wrote:See Captain-Awesome's quote. That's pretty much my viewpoint word for word. He's not the first in this thread either.
But he hasn't said anything about needing elections ASAP like you've been advocating. No one agrees with that. My thought is that CPM0's job is to prepare for CPM1. Elections are a part of that. Shaping and balancing the playstyles/gamemodes/weapons of Dust isn't.
What do CPM0 have to do with elections? CCP will sort out the elections, not the CPM. CPM0 is preparing for CPM1 - anything else is just being done because it happens to be coinciding with their period in office and it needs to be done.
What exactly do you want? It seems like you want elections ASAP - am I wrong? |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:06:00 -
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Okay, so let's have an election for a new group of Dust514 player representatives today - they would be entirely representative of the playerbase. This new body has no power, no one at CCP who recognises them or will talk to them about anything. That sounds like just the thing you seem to want. Problem solved. |
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