CPM0 is not a represntative body, they are creating a framework for the first CPM to work in. Right now they are trying to fix the communication system between the CPM and the Devs, Because if that doesn't work, why spend resources, time, and money electing a CPM if they will not be able to get anything done.

These folks are not trying to represent you, they are trying to get a system in place so others can.

Funny thing is the CPM thing is taking a lot of time away from Eve as well. Kain is in the business mogul side of things though most of that is afk profits though. I retired to some quiet corner of high sec and I watch over a lab. Not sure where the others are in Eve. Hans is a Faction Warfare fanatic. So far its been pretty useful background knowledge when dealing with out counterparts when we have to talk about the link with them. At least we're knowledgeable enough to poke them about just anything involving everything involving Eve.

I wished I can say the same for our own counterparts in eve playing Dust 514 though... One guy insisted that the "Gallente Medic" among 3 other suits (amarr heavy, minmatar scout, and caldari assault) had to be nerfed first before fixing the link and the entire CPM was like

Don't get me wrong they are also trying to represent the Community the best they can to show why they need better communication. They work insanely hard. I know all of them. They work harder than any of us will ever know, on things we will probably never see. And they do in fact try to represent the community the best they can, but that's not their job. It's not what they were meant to be doing.

Honestly it is a broken record majority of the time or worse yet an Echo Chamber.

Lol Silly you.

Shaping the CPM is the primary goal of CPM 0 and every subsequent CPM from now on.
Shaping the entire council does NOT stop with CPM0 nor should it. Eve CSM is still being developed to this day and this is probably going to the the second hardest fight to battle for the CPM is to catch up to the CSM where they are in terms of relationship to the community and the developers.

Well there is this one change coming down the pipes. I among all other CPM members are doing our best to prevent it because if it does go through... we're predicting a bunch of pitchforks and torches. CPM raised enough hell that the post explaining the changes has been so far delayed a week. So far still no resolution though so I got my fingers crossed and would be happy to tell you all about it once it's resolution is made public.

The most notable change the CPM pushed forward from the community and did get through was the Planetary Conquest changes for '1.3' the re-attacking and successful defense portion.

There are bunch of other very small things that have been done because they been tunneled through the CPM

I for one would not let these things continue to rot the game when I can poke a dev about it and get something done. CPM are not designers we're just sanity checks.

Aye which is why we're getting a meeting with the CSM and CCP pretty soon about the link. I want something solid enough that a major eve powerhouse would try to invade Molden Heath for it thus forcing more regions to open up.

We're eons away from Null warfare.

Lol Buster, this has not turned out the way you thought, hey? You thought you'd get hundreds of people shouting, "No! The CPM doesn't represent s**t!" but what you actually got has been 4 pages and only a handful of people agreeing with you. Will you stop now? Doubt it.

What you should really take from all of this is that we don't need anyone representing us right now. We need someone to make a framework so that we can be represented in the future - that is what the CPM is doing. That is why they're called CPM0 and not CPM1 - they are not a 'real' CPM; they are pre-CPM.

When the CPM is eventually elected, I highly doubt anyone will be running with the thought that they want to spend their entire time trying to figure out how to interact effectively with CCP. I don't think anyone is going to want to be searching around to find out who in CCP to talk to about their electorate's concerns. CPM1 will be wanting to get things done and be able to represent the players effectively - they will not be able to even remotely do this without CPM0 setting up the framework for all this now like they are.

TL:DR - there is no point having representation when there's no way to represent and the people being represented to aren't there/listening.

Please, elaborate why not. Otherwise, it's just another QQ post by a child.

The CPM isn't here to represent you no matter who says how many times.

For them to represent you, you are meant to have voted them in, so this thread is pointless.

They are doing an ok job, some more than others but that's to be expected.

As long as they focus more on how to sort the CPM frame work I don't care, although I've not seen any discussion on that and we are nearly a 4 months into it?

Nope

Im a vehicle guy

LAVs/HAVs and loldropships

I am not represented at all

I haven't seen a single person in this thread saying 'exactly what you've said' and no one calling for elections ASAP, so please direct me to anything I've missed here.

I appreciate that you're doing all this in at least a respectful and moderate manner (which is much more approachable than some other posters on these forums) but I think you're in a pretty small minority on this exact matter.

But he hasn't said anything about needing elections ASAP like you've been advocating. No one agrees with that.

Buster Friendly:

Where were you during the initial CPM discussion? IMO, you are just roadblocking any progress by senselessly demanding representation within an incomplete system.

Also, by suggesting that only voting gives proper representation, then, if we were to vote tomorrow within our community of 5000-8000 ish players, then the player based doubled over the next year, would the CPM represent that added player base? Because by your logic, every new player to the game that doesn't get a chance to vote for the CPM is default, not represented by them.

What do CPM0 have to do with elections? CCP will sort out the elections, not the CPM. CPM0 is preparing for CPM1 - anything else is just being done because it happens to be coinciding with their period in office and it needs to be done.

What exactly do you want? It seems like you want elections ASAP - am I wrong?