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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:36:00 -
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Revive their logis?
Looking at the cost of my proto gal logi suit with proto equipment, it is pretty damn expensive.. Plenty of people come on here complaining that logis don't logi. Well I am a logi that tries to logi , and I ask of you , why do you not have my back and revive me if I go down while keeping you alive?
Assaults should carry around an injector more often again as they used to. Logis can carry an array of equipment to take care of your ammunition and repair needs. But if they go down , they are completely useless and can not repair you nor supply ammo or provide cover fire while you refuel ammo.
So why do no assaults have their logibros backs as we are required to have yours?
It's gets to be an expensive war out there
and don't say ****** revive mechanics, learn to pull out your injector beforehand and not stand on body mashing circle |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:52:00 -
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lol , I wasn't really serious
but being a logi does get expensive
* when playing an infantry role |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:44:00 -
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some good points here.. but I don't care about logic and reasoning!
REVIVE ME!!!!
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Take away assaults equipment slot, see how they feel about us then:D We'll then we will hang around the Supply Depots and leave you guy's out there in the rain.
that's how alot of ambush used to be back in the day lol.. who could hold down the supply depot the longest |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2013.08.13 05:36:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Revive their logis?
Looking at the cost of my proto gal logi suit with proto equipment, it is pretty damn expensive.. Plenty of people come on here complaining that logis don't logi. Well I am a logi that tries to logi , and I ask of you , why do you not have my back and revive me if I go down while keeping you alive?
Assaults should carry around an injector more often again as they used to. Logis can carry an array of equipment to take care of your ammunition and repair needs. But if they go down , they are completely useless and can not repair you nor supply ammo or provide cover fire while you refuel ammo.
So why do no assaults have their logibros backs as we are required to have yours?
It's gets to be an expensive war out there
and don't say ****** revive mechanics, learn to pull out your injector beforehand and not stand on body mashing circle You are right. Assaults SHOULD revive their logis taht provide them with AMmo , repairs and revives.. The problem is , most logis are actually assaults in disguise. Me for example , i have a Scout/assault with a needle. And i never revive someone that is NOT in my squad, or hasn't revived me before,(Yeah , i pay attention to this, i even send THANK YOU messages to players that revive me sometimes LOL) MUCH LESS Logis that see you twitching in the middle of the road and stomp your head. Then get killed and post stuff on the forums on why they dont get revive and how good they are at logi-ing and how they are a true logi (yup ,EVERY player using a logi thinks hes a true logi) No offense. maybe.
I'm a Gallente Logi , the only true logi! :p |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2013.08.13 13:41:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Revive their logis?
Looking at the cost of my proto gal logi suit with proto equipment, it is pretty damn expensive.. Plenty of people come on here complaining that logis don't logi. Well I am a logi that tries to logi , and I ask of you , why do you not have my back and revive me if I go down while keeping you alive?
Assaults should carry around an injector more often again as they used to. Logis can carry an array of equipment to take care of your ammunition and repair needs. But if they go down , they are completely useless and can not repair you nor supply ammo or provide cover fire while you refuel ammo.
So why do no assaults have their logibros backs as we are required to have yours?
It's gets to be an expensive war out there
and don't say ****** revive mechanics, learn to pull out your injector beforehand and not stand on body mashing circle Proto Caldari Assault: - Missing One high slot - Missing One Equipment Slot - Not enough CPU and PG The Caldari Assault now is as good as the old Assault B-series. Why do most Caldari Assault users run Proto? - The advanced tier is just not what it used to be. But here in the forums all i hear is AR OP this AR OP that. QQ about LAV, LogiAR and so on... I've been a Caldari AR suit user since the beginning. How many AR QQ do i see here?
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2013.08.13 13:48:00 -
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Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Revive their logis?
Looking at the cost of my proto gal logi suit with proto equipment, it is pretty damn expensive.. Plenty of people come on here complaining that logis don't logi. Well I am a logi that tries to logi , and I ask of you , why do you not have my back and revive me if I go down while keeping you alive?
Assaults should carry around an injector more often again as they used to. Logis can carry an array of equipment to take care of your ammunition and repair needs. But if they go down , they are completely useless and can not repair you nor supply ammo or provide cover fire while you refuel ammo.
So why do no assaults have their logibros backs as we are required to have yours?
It's gets to be an expensive war out there
and don't say ****** revive mechanics, learn to pull out your injector beforehand and not stand on body mashing circle Get with an organized squad and run with them as frequent as possible making sure of course everybody knows their roles, that would be your best bet.
yeh this will help alot in keeping your ass alive that's for sure. There used to be a time when a lot of assaults would carry around injectors, me included when I used to play caldari assault when caldari assault was only assault. It actually helped alot and made ambushes turn into some fun games ( as long as the revive didn't kill both people ) what the french used to have a few squads that were near impossible to keep down due to them carrying injectors. I think at one point there used to be way more teamplay in the pubs, now it's just .. I don't know.
Could be because we didn't have corp battles yet ( damn , wait they took them from us!! aghghhh) and we didn't have PC. so people put more oganization into their fights I guess.
Now it seems like ambush is more about just get it done and over fast, collect cash, rinse and repeat.. no care really of what direction the battle goes :\
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
875
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:14:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Theres a few factors i can think of;
CCP nerfed the basic and Militia hives to replen less and slower.
Not enough people have specced into Adv hives (Apart from logis) And for good reason, if i was assault adv hives would be the last thing on the list to train.
Scout/Assault suits lost the second equipment slot, less equipment slots = less equipment on the field.
Conclusion; This means there is not enough ammo on the battlefield anymore, thus no one apart from Logis will run an injector, even they have the option of fitting and uplink and repair tool which could be considered a better use of an equipment slot.
How to improve the situation?
Easy fixes. Increase the amount of ammo in the hives, so we dont have to drop one every 10 seconds. But keep the rate of replenishement the same. Increase the max amount of hives carried by 1 upto adv. (So 2xMLT, 3xBasic, 3xAdvanced) Logis use better hives.
More complicated fix but will require a balance pass; Give the Assault/Scout Suits there second equipment slot back.
I really like your hive idea |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:11:00 -
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KaTaLy5t-87 wrote:I an assault and I always carry an injector on my suits, always have, always will. The only time I won't be carrying an injector is when I have to switch to my AV suit or when I swap to my sniper suit because I have hives fitted on those suits, other than that every other suit I have has an injector. I like being able to revive team and squad mates, having more guys fighting beside me helps me be more effective so I'll always revive someone provided it is safe to do so. The only time I won't revive someone is when there are still enemies nearby because: A) I don't wana pick someone up to have them die again before they are even off theground. B) I don't wana die trying to pick someone up in the middle of a firefight and C) I hate getting rambo revived and then gunned down so instead of only "dying" once you have now died twice in the one go (which I think needs to be looked at BTW)
I do agree that there is now a shortage of ammo on the field since they removed loads of the supply depots though and this is probably a reason why not many people are carrying injectors.
I've also found that it is much easier to be killed while you are bleeding out now. If you go down in the middle of a firefight you willuusually get shot again while you're bleeding out which then kills you obviously. I'm not sure if this problem is related to the hitbox or whether it is related to the fact that people now often bleed out while they are still standing in the exact position they were shot in. I'm assuming that the last issue is an unexpected error from one of the updates but I haven't seen anything from CCP about it. I would like to name it "The Rigor Mortise Glitch" because it is like someone goes stiff the instant they die and remain standing until their body disappears.
Lol, Rigor Mortise glitch , nice!
I havn't seen any mention from ccp about that either. Damn does it look wierd soemtimes, and I don't know how many dead snipers I have shot at either.. still sitting there in crouch looking down their sights dead as fk.
Tank drivers and gunners look pretty funny too when the tanks go boom.
Some of them positions make it hard to revive, and it just looks frikin weird, I hope it one day goes away |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
879
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:08:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Lol, Rigor Mortise glitch , nice!
I havn't seen any mention from ccp about that either. Damn does it look wierd soemtimes, and I don't know how many dead snipers I have shot at either.. still sitting there in crouch looking down their sights dead as fk.
Tank drivers and gunners look pretty funny too when the tanks go boom.
Some of them positions make it hard to revive, and it just looks frikin weird, I hope it one day goes away I guess you never shot down a dropship before and see half a dozen people floating in mid air.
haha no not that I have noticed, I have shot down lots of DS though.. but usually they crash down somewhere and then blow up out of my line of sight.. so i'm missing out I guess |
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
887
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:44:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:gbh08 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:gbh08 wrote:Assault suit only has one equip slot, thats for ammo.....
Yet you don't throw it down anyway. I'm running around with just an SMG, trying to find a supply depot, while no assaults respond to my gestures for ammo. LoL you guys presume a ******* lot i get through both my hives, then end up driving to supply depo also heres a idea, carry your own ******* hives I run out. And why is it that you idiots only throw down hives right next to supply depots? Destroys the point of it.
I have had to do this a couple times because currently there is a bug or something that won't let you fill any of your ammo at the supply depot. sometimes running away from it 30m or so and going back works, other times it's a ***** or you just don't have the time so you toss your last hive at your feet by the supply depot.
It doesn't happen to me often, but it has.. |
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