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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1172	Posted - 2013.08.11 15:34:00 - [1] - Quote One of the objectives is completing the mission within your limited clone supply. Your team obviously wasn't playing that objective very well.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1172	Posted - 2013.08.11 15:45:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: One of the objectives is completing the mission within your limited clone supply. Your team obviously wasn't playing that objective very well. So why is there a NULL Cannon placed in the game? Is it basically an Ambush game with a secondary/optional objective put into it? Maybe you didn't noticed, but the New Eden universe has a big focus on resources. Just like we don't have a magical infinite supply of our guns and weapons, the clones are not infinite. It may be hard to see the bigger picture when all we have now is match making (aside from the small group of corps in PC) but outside of matchmaking in the real world of New Eden these clones have to be manufactured and transported to each district. The instant battles are getting you used to that fact. Also I'd hardly call the null cannons a secondary/optional objective since that is how the battle is won the vast majority of the time. It is more like the clone reserves is the secondary objective, and as long as you aren't playing foolishly or using bad battle tactics you will almost never have to worry about the clone reserves.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1172	Posted - 2013.08.11 15:46:00 - [3] - Quote 8213 wrote: Mad Mav wrote: We are being contracted to protect/attack those objectives. The contractors pay for a certain amount of clones and once those have been extinguished we can't return to the battle. If you consider FW, it makes a bit more since. So WHY is there a NULL Cannon in the game? You don't need to touch it to win the match. So we basically have 1 game mode in DUST 514 Good luck killing 150 clones in the small amount of time it would take all the null cannons to destroy your MCC.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1173	Posted - 2013.08.11 15:54:00 - [4] - Quote 8213 wrote: Skirmish wins by Objective most of the time. But Domination comes down to Clone Count more than Objective 99% of the time. So what's the point of having Ambush and Domination game modes, when they are both won the same way? Funny, I have yet to see a Domination come done to clone count. I'm thinking whoever you are playing with in Domination keeps spamming units into the choke points in hopes that you will eventually overpower them and take the objective, but that is a terrible tactic and I'm glad it's discouraged.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1174	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:01:00 - [5] - Quote 8213 wrote: Adding Clone count to an Objective game actually does the opposite of what I think CCP was trying to achieve, instead of adding more depth to the game, it actually took depth away. From now on, my team will just sit somewhere and spam Forge Guns and Mass Drivers until we kill 150 clones... which should take only about 5 minutes(faster than the NULL Cannon can destroy our MCC) No clone counts would only encourage more zerge tactics, and I'm sorry but those are extremely dull and shallow. And I would love to see you camp 150 clones in 5 minutes when the other team has all the null cannons. Pardon me if I appear skeptic, but I have never seen a team getting redlined win via clone count.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1174	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:03:00 - [6] - Quote 8213 wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: 8213 wrote: Skirmish wins by Objective most of the time. But Domination comes down to Clone Count more than Objective 99% of the time. So what's the point of having Ambush and Domination game modes, when they are both won the same way? Funny, I have yet to see a Domination come done to clone count. I'm thinking whoever you are playing with in Domination keeps spamming units into the choke points in hopes that you will eventually overpower them and take the objective, but that is a terrible tactic and I'm glad it's discouraged. Are you seriously joking? Or have you only played one game of Domination? MOST games (by most I mean 9/10) cmoe down to clone count because eventually the other gives up trying to take the objective and they just sit back go for kills. 150 kills takes about 5 minutes for a good team (even if the other team whips out the Nanite Injectors in full force). Well considering I play a ton of Domination and have never seen it, my only conclusion is you and whoever frequently tags along with you must die about 50 times a match.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1175	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:13:00 - [7] - Quote 8213 wrote: trolling.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1175	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:15:00 - [8] - Quote 8213 wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: That amarr guy is one hardcore RPlayers so I don't think he can troll... Seriously do you play solo or with squads? Name some corps you play domination with. Mine, Team Players, GIANT, and sometimes just a squad of scattered people. I almost never Domination solo, because I value my sanity. But don't worry, I'm going to do what Nyain San does, just spam mass drivers the whole game until we win. F*ck PTFO, who needs it? Go get some of your buddies to attest to these statements.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1177	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:34:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry, but right now based on this thread the vote is 1 against everyone else. Only suggesting that if you have any real evidence to make some eye witnesses would help your case. (yes I know you're trolling, still fun to play along)
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1177	Posted - 2013.08.11 16:56:00 - [10] - Quote 8213 wrote: Cy Clone1 wrote: I play lots of domination and I only ever see clone victory when the other team is unwisely spamming the objective. Also you can stop hacks without dying. Nobodies trolling you. Yup, those stupid teams that try to play the objective in an objective game mode. Why don't they just stay off the objective and just go for kills? Ambush players should just play Domination, since its like a double version of OMS Spamming the objective isn't exactly the same thing as playing the objective. Try using some real battle tactics.

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