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Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:19:00 -
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What are your thoughts on it in its current state?
With the HMG of course. Cause even as a heavy I am not a fan of the foge gun.
Would like to hear from both sides of the barrel.
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Nguruthos IX
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1047
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:21:00 -
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minus the forge gun***
They're alright and wouldn't hurt to gain small buffs or some more weapons
edit: with FG, it shows how terrible devs are at balancing this game. |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:22:00 -
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Why are you not a fan of the forge cannon? It one shots infantry and takes out tanks. What more do you want? |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
160
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:39:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:What are your thoughts on it in its current state?
With the HMG of course. Cause even as a heavy I am not a fan of the foge gun.
Would like to hear from both sides of the barrel.
All respect lost. |
Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
93
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:52:00 -
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Well ain't a fan of the forge gun mainly because I like being in the thick of it. Not hiding on a building or hill. Personal preference. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
230
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Posted - 2013.08.11 09:58:00 -
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Well, militia heavy+militia shotgun=fun as ****.
On a better note, 1v1 in my scout suit, If I ambush it, 8 times out of 10 I can kill it, but if not I'll be dead within a second.
So it seems alright. Needs more variety. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
316
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:05:00 -
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I've been absolutely tearing up with my boundless HMG this weekend. It has been so much fun I've even played a bit after I capped. The forge guns alright too you shouldn't be bias. We heavys only have so many choices for brute force.
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
516
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:08:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:Why are you not a fan of the forge cannon? It one shots infantry and takes out tanks. What more do you want?
Yeah but it needs skill to use correctly, something not everybody has.
IMO HMG needs buff
FG's are good.
im a FGunner / Scout SMG. |
Adelia Lafayette
DUST University
Ivy League
166
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:09:00 -
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I enjoy using the forge gun in the thick of it. It is terribly satisfying to land a direct hit on a moving target. Am I a bad person? Also enjoy sneaking behind snipers. Its so fun to see them get popped up into the air. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
657
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:13:00 -
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Extending the optimal of the base HMG by about 5m would be acceptable and, I think, do more for HMG Heavies than most people realize.
It doesn't have to be some massive 25% damage increase or anything crazy. Just a small tweak to the weapon's range.
I'm a big fan of small tweaks one at a time to enable effective tracking of said change's effect. |
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Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
317
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:13:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:CuuCH Crusher wrote:Why are you not a fan of the forge cannon? It one shots infantry and takes out tanks. What more do you want? Yeah but it needs skill to use correctly, something not everybody has. IMO HMG needs buff FG's are good. im a FGunner / Scout SMG.
Lol HMG needs a reload buff. But please don't touch it CCP, you have done enough.
The FG could use a splash buff 
-bazookah
(HMG for life) |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:14:00 -
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As a heavy, we aren't glass cannons, but we aren't really any more of a threat than other suit types..
I don't get why Heavies don't have more slots than the other suits. I mean, we're bigger and are able to hold a choice of 2 bigger weapons that are only good in certain situations, and besides that we're slow as fudge so someone with a SG or NK's can out strafe our turn speed to blap us before we can tear them apart. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
108
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:15:00 -
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Jade Dragonis wrote:Well ain't a fan of the forge gun mainly because I like being in the thick of it. Not hiding on a building or hill. Personal preference.
Same here, I like mowing people down with a HMG too much to pick up a forge. Nothing better than breaking through the hard shell of a Caldari suit...once you see their shield is depleted, you know they are done for. |
Blaze Ashra
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:20:00 -
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I think the kin cat HMG heavies can kick a lot of butt especially when they're driving LLAV's. Worst surprise ever... |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
108
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:22:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:As a heavy, we aren't glass cannons, but we aren't really any more of a threat than other suit types..
I don't get why Heavies don't have more slots than the other suits. I mean, we're bigger and are able to hold a choice of 2 bigger weapons that are only good in certain situations, and besides that we're slow as fudge so someone with a SG or NK's can out strafe our turn speed to blap us before we can tear them apart.
Yes, that is why I never go heavier than enhanced plates because the movement penalty isn't worth the extra armor. ~3.5 m/s is slow enough...I stick to 2 enhanced plates, complex dmg mod, and the boundless with my Dren sentinel suit. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
516
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:22:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:Jade Dragonis wrote:Well ain't a fan of the forge gun mainly because I like being in the thick of it. Not hiding on a building or hill. Personal preference. Same here, I like mowing people down with a HMG too much to pick up a forge. Nothing better than breaking through the hard shell of a Caldari suit...once you see their shield is depleted, you know they are done for.
Im a master of the SMG (been using them on scout suits since FOREVER) and its the only weapon i truly can use effectively,so the Forge gun suits my Play style a Lot better.
Contrary to what would make sense, i un around with my Six-Kin SMG and take out the forge gun if someone is shooting me out of SMG range or i see a vehicle.
Its called being ready for every situation. |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
108
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:26:00 -
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Back to the original post: the HMG has some issues with firing blanks, aka hit detection. Unless that little pinpoint reticle is within the enemy's hitbox, you are just barking dog with no teeth. CCP needs to take in account that your entire cone of fire is doing damage, not the few rounds that go down the center of fire. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:27:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:I think the kin cat HMG heavies can kick a lot of butt especially when they're driving LLAV's. Worst surprise ever...
Kin cat HMG heavies kick a lot of butt.
I use it for urban objective defense where there's a lot of cover and use it to run around cover before they realize I'm further than they thought I was. So it really makes them check their corners and less likely to rush into a potential Speed Heavy trap... a.k.a. their doom. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
427
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:29:00 -
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Like all suits it's how you play and fit them, even without the heavy weapons Heavies have sheer stand and take it ability, I fear most people feel they HAVE to use heavy weapons with heavy suits but the only real restriction to a heavy suit is that it's only built to destroy. |
castba
Penguin's March
75
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:25:00 -
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Been a forge gunner since open beta. Still love it and still getting better. Although I can proto it, there is no need.
Other than that, I played with ASCR/smg and AR/smg builds with my heavy suit. Not bad and did not like respectively.
Just started using the basic HMG and it is pretty damn effective killing people (and basic LAVs) with. So much so that I am not bothering to put any more SP into it but will continue to use it. I never use it outdoors unless I drive right into a hack point. If the dispersion was very slightly lessened, the HMG would be as delicious in CQ as my forge is at medium range.
Much like King Checkmate, Forge/smg is my bread and butter.
EDIT: I should note that skilling to lv 5 in biotics is very beneficial even if you are not looking to use Kin Cats or Regulators.. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1045
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:26:00 -
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I think heavies need more weapon choices |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
523
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I think heavies need more weapon choices
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:38:00 -
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We only have two weapons, but the HMG is impotent, and we only have one suit.
Meanwhile, in Assault land.... options galore.
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