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Rogatien Merc
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Posted - 2013.08.11 20:48:00 -
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Yeah dude, don't get too frustrated. Lots to learn in the game and we all have bad nights/weeks. And if you do, don't worry about taking a week off. The beauty of this game is that your SP will accrue passively and you'll be able to advance even if you don't play all next week - especially at the early stages.
Others have said some of the below, but I will chime in just to emphasize:
- You seem to have a pretty good idea where you want to go (Shield tanked AR Minmatar Assault) so your short term goals should be:
1) Advanced Medium Frame... the 3high 2 low setup is going to be your bread and butter for a long time.
2) Complex Shield Extenders ... slapping 3x of these on your advanced suit is going to nearly double the HP you have relative to where you currently sit in an M-1 suit ... for a shield tanking suit, it cannot be overemphasized how important these modules are.
3) Armor Plates & Repair to I / Biotics III / Cardiac Regulator I-III... once you're fitting a Gek on an ADV suit with complex extenders, you're probably going to run out of fitting for militia gear and will want to run any 2 of: Basic Plate / Basic or Enhanced Cardiac Regulator / Basic Armor Rep... plate gives you more frontline tank, card reg gives you more endurance for flanking maneuvers, and the rep gives you faster bounceback. The speed mods play to your suit's strength as a flanker, while the plate/rep lets you compensate for weaknesses and sit on the frontline next to other racial suits that have higher base HP than you.
3) Armor upgrades & Shield Upgrades both to at least II or III ... You want to start building up those core skills to increase your HP... it seems like you're having issues with your "Sturdy as a wet paper bag" standard suit and this will help... they are also really cheap skills.
3) AR Proficiency III (since you are already so close... the 9% bonus to your AR damage will serve you well long-term. You have NOT gimped yourself by speccing into your weapon this early; it is a strength. But run a standard/exile or a Gek *NOT* a duvolle until you get into a proto suit with solid solid core skills; Duvolle is prohibitively expensive. SIDENOTE: Really recommend trying out the Glu-5 tactical assault rifle on the advanced suit when you get it. Semi-auto longer range and a no-sway scope lets you harass the crap out of people from a distance beyond normal AR range. Give it a shot for 10 suits or so and if you like it, you will end up loving it. If you don't, no harm done.
4) Advanced ASSAULT Suit ... this will get your ISK costs down since the suit is cheaper than the basic frame, and with the 15% bonus to shield recharge and to sidearm clip size (works wonders with an SMG) the strength of the Min Assault will start to manifest.
5 and on) From there, keep building your core. Get your core fitting/tanking/module skills all to IV or V. Get your chosen equipment (nanohives and uplinks probably) to at least II or III so you can use K-2 hives and stable uplinks. Get Grenadier to III because standard locus grenades suck and the upgrade to M1 is really nice (also for Packed AV and C-7 Flux). Get your sidearm into proficiency III so that even using a Toxin (or other sidearm) it hits harder.
... only then would I really recommend pushing to get your proto assault suit TBQH. Opinions vary, but I'd focus on your core and learning to play the pub match environment in advanced gear before you start really needing focus on making sure you are ISK positive when using proto gear. This plan is several months long so it's not set in stone, but it's a good place to start. Good luck! |
Rogatien Merc
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Posted - 2013.08.11 20:54:00 -
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Megaman Trigger wrote:Dunk Mujunk wrote:I do have a fitting question. With the Minmatars small amount of low powered slots, what should my feelings be in regards to armor plating? I gained access to STD armor plating extremely early in an attempt to increase survivability. I had been thinking I would run an armor plate and whatever the mod is that increases sprint speed (to counter act the plates movement penalty) when I got my ADV suit. Im wondering though if the minimal protection of one plate is worth having to mod my sprint speed, or would I be using 2 high level mods and only be receiving average at best performance enhancement? If you have access to Basic Armor Plates, then you also have access to Basic Ferroscale Plates; roughly half the armor of the normal plates with with no speed penalty. Also, your minmatar assault has the fastest base speed of any suit except lights/scouts. The 3% reduction to movement is relatively minor for the 65hp bonus (% to total EHP is probably something like 30%? You'd have to check your own numbers). I recommend the basic plate if you are planning to act on the front lines and the ferroscale Megaman mentioned for when you need to run between objectives or to initial objective or if you are playing more of a flanker role. Kin Cat vs. Armor Repair vs. Cardiac Regulator gets into subjective situational analysis... all of the above will work well depending on what you can actually fit on your suit and as long as you tailor your play style to utilize the strengths of the modules you are fitting. i.e. make sure you sprint away from combat early if you have a kincat+cardreg setup whereas you can maybe try to burn down your opponent if you run a plate+rep setup. Lots of options. The 1hp/sec base repair built into the suit is awesome, but honestly helps you more between the end of one engagement and the start of the next and does not rep fast enough to make a huge difference in the middle of a firefight which is why I like a rep if I want to run as a 'frontline' guy. |
Rogatien Merc
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:53:00 -
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Depending on the role and tier, a min assault can get away with using a ferroscale or even basic plate instead of a rep (I agree with you generally) because of the suit's built in 1hp/sec armor repair. Really tough to squeeze anything else into the lows ... coming from a Cal Logi, Min Assault is a pain in the ass to fit properly lol. |
Rogatien Merc
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:53:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Depending on the role and tier, a min assault can get away with using a ferroscale or even basic plate instead of a rep (I agree with you generally) because of the suit's built in 1hp/sec armor repair. Really tough to squeeze anything else into the lows ... coming from a Cal Logi, Min Assault is a pain in the ass to fit properly lol. I should look at the ferroscale more closely. You say it has a built in repper? That could be more effective than the Armour repper, since it is really only there to rep you between fights anyway, at least when used on a shield tanked suit. I should have paid more attention when that was released. The Minmatar Assault suit itself has a built in 1hp/sec repair rate. Ferroscale are less HP but no movement penalty... reactive plates are the ones that add repair rate too, but I find them harder to fit. |
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