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8213
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:13:00 -
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I personally have been saying these weapons have no place in DUST since Beta. Weapons that fire splash explosives in any/all FPS games have been getting nerfed for the last 5 years.
This isn't a monthly gripe, FPS players have been hating Noob Tubes in all their forms for quite some time now.
And, the players that exploit them. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:15:00 -
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Next will be OP REs(again)
This isn't AR514, no matter how much you purist want it to be. |
8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:24:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Next will be OP REs(again) This isn't AR514, no matter how much you purist want it to be.
It isn't AR514, MD514, LAV514, FLAYLOCK514, M8LOCUSGRENADE514, and eventually ForgeGun514...
Look at Noob Tubes in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 compared to Black Ops II. They went from game breaking OP to useless and not used, and NOBODY complained about it. Same as in Battlefield, Homefront, Halo... etc, etc, etc... Only scrub players want splash explosive anti-infintry launch weapons i.e.- NOOB TUBES
The noob tube has all but been extinct from FPS, then DUST came along and made it more OP than ever. 6 shots, with proficiencies and modules.
Its only real "balance" is that it almost can never kill in shot to a prototype player that has proper suit outfitted, or a heavy. |
8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:26:00 -
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And why does everyone assume that its an AR player that cries for the nerf?
Every DUST player is spec'd into AR at least a little bit. But HMG players, Forgies, SCRers, Shotgunners, and Snipers want this too. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:30:00 -
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8213 wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Next will be OP REs(again) This isn't AR514, no matter how much you purist want it to be. Look at Noob Tubes in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 compared to Black Ops II. They went from game breaking OP to useless and not used, and NOBODY complained about it.
LOL, actually read what you wrote there.
Nobody uses it and nobody complains about it.
Gee, you think?
Nobody complains about lasers or the plasma cannon either, so does that mean they are balanced or just really shiity?
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:31:00 -
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8213 wrote:And why does everyone assume that its an AR player that cries for the nerf?
Every DUST player is spec'd into AR at least a little bit. But HMG players, Forgies, SCRers, Shotgunners, and Snipers want this too.
The AR gets more than double the amount of usage of any gun in all game modes, please don't try to feed me that crap.
And a majority by a large margin said the MD was not OP in a recent poll. |
8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:35:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:8213 wrote:And why does everyone assume that its an AR player that cries for the nerf?
Every DUST player is spec'd into AR at least a little bit. But HMG players, Forgies, SCRers, Shotgunners, and Snipers want this too. The AR gets more than double the amount of usage of any gun in all game modes, please don't try to feed me that crap. And a majority by a large margin said the MD was not OP in a recent poll. Poll? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:39:00 -
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so what if they are? the LR and TAR tear them apart at range, just watch there will be a change to the FOTM to something with more range because MD is more a closer range weapon that has to fight with the high DPS ARs. plus the scope should draw some LR back to the fold and you'll see a nerfs to other weapon come up. there is no reason for CCP to change this or any of FOTM as it stands right now. |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:43:00 -
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8213 wrote:Justin Tymes wrote:Next will be OP REs(again) This isn't AR514, no matter how much you purist want it to be. It isn't AR514, MD514, LAV514, FLAYLOCK514, M8LOCUSGRENADE514, and eventually ForgeGun514... Look at Noob Tubes in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 compared to Black Ops II. They went from game breaking OP to useless and not used, and NOBODY complained about it. Same as in Battlefield, Homefront, Halo... etc, etc, etc... Only scrub players want splash explosive anti-infintry launch weapons i.e.- NOOB TUBES The noob tube has all but been extinct from FPS, then DUST came along and made it more OP than ever. 6 shots, with proficiencies and modules. Its only real "balance" is that it almost can never kill in shot to a prototype player that has proper suit outfitted, or a heavy.
Sorry but no, there were complains, but the community pretty much dealt with it.
And the MD in this game is different from the grenade launcher in that one.
And you can always tell a MD QQ thread, because the OP never brings up the other variants in the discussion, they just want to remove the weapon entirely.
The Assault MD is a true suppression weapon, it has serious flaws like never being able to kill stacked Shielded Assaults and Heavies with it in 1 clip, and you most likely will kill yourself in CQC with it. It's completely balanced
The Breach is actually underpowered, it needs to have the same firing rate as the standard.
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:50:00 -
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8213 wrote:I personally have been saying these weapons have no place in DUST since Beta. Weapons that fire splash explosives in any/all FPS games have been getting nerfed for the last 5 years.
This isn't a monthly gripe, FPS players have been hating Noob Tubes in all their forms for quite some time now.
And, the players that exploit them.
Yes it is, anything Teamplayers use to insta kill people is the FOTM: Mass Drivers, Forge Guns, Flux grenades. maybe not flux but the other 2. |
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8213
Grade No.2
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:54:00 -
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:8213 wrote:I personally have been saying these weapons have no place in DUST since Beta. Weapons that fire splash explosives in any/all FPS games have been getting nerfed for the last 5 years.
This isn't a monthly gripe, FPS players have been hating Noob Tubes in all their forms for quite some time now.
And, the players that exploit them. Yes it is, anything Teamplayers use to insta kill people is the FOTM: Mass Drivers, Forge Guns, Flux grenades. maybe not flux but the other 2.
TeamPlayers use ARs mostly. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:31:00 -
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8213 wrote:I personally have been saying these weapons have no place in DUST since Beta. Weapons that fire splash explosives in any/all FPS games have been getting nerfed for the last 5 years.
This isn't a monthly gripe, FPS players have been hating Noob Tubes in all their forms for quite some time now.
And, the players that exploit them. Hail king AR, hail AR 514.
The AR is the biggest noob tube in this game. It has been for a while. It's the flavor of the game.
Go AR or go home. |
RedZer0 MK1
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.11 02:00:00 -
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In other games a grenade launcher usually OHKO people, hence the complaints. Splash damage punishes people for stacking in a mass. The mass driver was better in chromosome than now, but there weren't as many nerf threads about it. Seems like if anything comes close to being on par with AR, nerf it. |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
849
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Posted - 2013.08.11 02:57:00 -
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8213 wrote:And why does everyone assume that its an AR player that cries for the nerf?
Every DUST player is spec'd into AR at least a little bit. But HMG players, Forgies, SCRers, Shotgunners, and Snipers want this too.
Would just like to say I have a grand total of 0SP into assault rifles. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:18:00 -
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Quake, Unreal, goldeneye*, TF, Firefall, shall I go on??? because I can! explosive weapons have been a major part of FPSs up until Halo** and that shaped a generation of FPS players to think that all fights should be fought with a bunch of identical guns. This is of course absolute stupidity, but most FPS players nowadays don't know any thing else and so freak out if they cant rely on the skills they learned in their first shooter, and say its because the game is bad and poorly balanced, instead of adapting and learning the skills the new game requires.
*this is not an elitist PC gamer post, well it is, but the fact of the mater is that games the emphasized explosives in combat existed on console too and were much loved, how ever halo was a real game changer for a whole generation of console players, despite the fact it was an incomplete game. Great for parties and the really casual gamer but other wise lacking.
**yes there was the rocket launcher in halo but it was severely under emphasized and OP and more akin to the redeemer in unreal |
Skihids
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:33:00 -
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Here we have yet another case of duelist disease.
The duelist will not abide any weapon that he can't dance with. If it steps on his toes he is extremely offended and demands it be ejected from the ball.
In the end his ideal game has but one basic weapon and no RPG skills to skew the duel from a player to player test of skill. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
491
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:40:00 -
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8213 wrote:HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:8213 wrote:I personally have been saying these weapons have no place in DUST since Beta. Weapons that fire splash explosives in any/all FPS games have been getting nerfed for the last 5 years.
This isn't a monthly gripe, FPS players have been hating Noob Tubes in all their forms for quite some time now.
And, the players that exploit them. Yes it is, anything Teamplayers use to insta kill people is the FOTM: Mass Drivers, Forge Guns, Flux grenades. maybe not flux but the other 2. TeamPlayers use ARs mostly. ReGnYuM... |
Viktor Zokas
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:46:00 -
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Don't forget the extra damage that armor tankers take from MD's. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:57:00 -
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Actually I read a recent thread that studied how much damage was received upon shield/armor from the Splash damage of a Massdriver, and it was the same. It seems the weapon is broken. My shields are acting like armor when a mass driver hits nearby. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1553
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Posted - 2013.08.11 05:29:00 -
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RedZer0 MK1 wrote:In other games a grenade launcher usually OHKO people, hence the complaints. Splash damage punishes people for stacking in a mass. The mass driver was better in chromosome than now, but there weren't as many nerf threads about it. Seems like if anything comes close to being on par with AR, nerf it.
This is the first rule of AR 514. |
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