DUST Search - Ferroscale Armor Plates

Knightshade Belladonna wrote:

I'm an armor tanker.. before I go any further I want that to be known in case this is not intended.

According to ferroscale plates description they do not alter your speed.

However when looking earlier as I switched a ferroscale plate out for an armor repper I became slower. I was like wtf, armor repair mods make you slower o.o

But upon further investigating I noticed it was not the armor repair module that made me slower, it was the removal of the ferroscale. Apparently if you have any module that does give a penalty to speed with armor and a ferroscale plate on, your overal penalty is reduced. Take off the ferro and your speed becomes slower. This is because the 0% is getting averaged in with the % reduction in speed from other plates. so with 3 enhanced armor plates , at 15% reduction in speed + 2 ferroscale ( doesn't matter what lvl ) at 0% each, your speed reduction is now 5%+5%+5%+0%+0% / 5 = 3% reduction.

I tried this on my gal pro logi earlier. It's base speed is 4.7ms , with the 3 enhanced plates no ferro my speed is 4.15ms, once adding the 2 ferroscale with them it becomes 4.48. Quite a nice boost I must say.

When using 2 enhanced plates + 3 ferroscale your speed only drops to 4.68

This is epic news to me as an armor tanker, and I hope it is meant to be that way and description just doesn't let you know that well..

If this is already widely known, and I am way late on finding out.. my bad , feel free to call me a scrub noob

also. I suck at maths.. so that might not be how it works, but they do decrease the speed penalty and by doing so increase your speed.

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Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 822	Posted - 2013.08.10 03:44:00 - [1] - Quote I'm an armor tanker.. before I go any further I want that to be known in case this is not intended. According to ferroscale plates description they do not alter your speed. However when looking earlier as I switched a ferroscale plate out for an armor repper I became slower. I was like wtf, armor repair mods make you slower o.o But upon further investigating I noticed it was not the armor repair module that made me slower, it was the removal of the ferroscale. Apparently if you have any module that does give a penalty to speed with armor and a ferroscale plate on, your overal penalty is reduced. Take off the ferro and your speed becomes slower. This is because the 0% is getting averaged in with the % reduction in speed from other plates. so with 3 enhanced armor plates , at 15% reduction in speed + 2 ferroscale ( doesn't matter what lvl ) at 0% each, your speed reduction is now 5%+5%+5%+0%+0% / 5 = 3% reduction. I tried this on my gal pro logi earlier. It's base speed is 4.7ms , with the 3 enhanced plates no ferro my speed is 4.15ms, once adding the 2 ferroscale with them it becomes 4.48. Quite a nice boost I must say. When using 2 enhanced plates + 3 ferroscale your speed only drops to 4.68 This is epic news to me as an armor tanker, and I hope it is meant to be that way and description just doesn't let you know that well.. If this is already widely known, and I am way late on finding out.. my bad , feel free to call me a scrub noob also. I suck at maths.. so that might not be how it works, but they do decrease the speed penalty and by doing so increase your speed.
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 1819	Posted - 2013.08.10 03:49:00 - [2] - Quote Just a bug. It should get fixed soon. So no worries.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 822	Posted - 2013.08.10 03:51:00 - [3] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Just a bug. It should get fixed soon. So no worries. if this is true.. I am now a sad Gallente
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 355	Posted - 2013.08.10 03:53:00 - [4] - Quote yup ppl found thisa while ago but again all the good bugs must die :(
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2504	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:20:00 - [5] - Quote I think it might be because the ferroscale has a speed reduction value of 0, meaning that it would be put into the module stacking penalty equation since it does still reduce your speed. By 0%.
Mother Facker Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 17	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:20:00 - [6] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: I'm an armor tanker.. before I go any further I want that to be known in case this is not intended. According to ferroscale plates description they do not alter your speed. However when looking earlier as I switched a ferroscale plate out for an armor repper I became slower. I was like wtf, armor repair mods make you slower o.o But upon further investigating I noticed it was not the armor repair module that made me slower, it was the removal of the ferroscale. Apparently if you have any module that does give a penalty to speed with armor and a ferroscale plate on, your overal penalty is reduced. Take off the ferro and your speed becomes slower. This is because the 0% is getting averaged in with the % reduction in speed from other plates. so with 3 enhanced armor plates , at 15% reduction in speed + 2 ferroscale ( doesn't matter what lvl ) at 0% each, your speed reduction is now 5%+5%+5%+0%+0% / 5 = 3% reduction. I tried this on my gal pro logi earlier. It's base speed is 4.7ms , with the 3 enhanced plates no ferro my speed is 4.15ms, once adding the 2 ferroscale with them it becomes 4.48. Quite a nice boost I must say. When using 2 enhanced plates + 3 ferroscale your speed only drops to 4.68 This is epic news to me as an armor tanker, and I hope it is meant to be that way and description just doesn't let you know that well.. If this is already widely known, and I am way late on finding out.. my bad , feel free to call me a scrub noob also. I suck at maths.. so that might not be how it works, but they do decrease the speed penalty and by doing so increase your speed. Can you try 3 complex armor plates with 2 complex ferroscale plates and tell me what the movement speed becomes?
Cryius Li-Moody Bragian Order Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:33:00 - [7] - Quote i got it the are made of Skittles or at least inject ii into you.
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1452	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:34:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Just a bug. It should get fixed soon. So no worries. Because armor tankers aren't allowed to be happy.
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 718	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:42:00 - [9] - Quote I run 2 complex ferroscale and 2 basic armor plates + 1 enhanced. I get 590 armor and can have 330 shields..But then again you can't fit **** for equipment. also that fit moves at 4.56 I think, or .14 off from the base 4.7, which is pretty damn good. I've known this for awhile, It's the only reason armor tanking is semi relevant.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. League of Infamy 449	Posted - 2013.08.10 04:49:00 - [10] - Quote You can't fit 3 complex plates and 2 complex ferroscale plates on a suit. Too much CPU and PG. Also the OP is correct. This is a well known bug with the ferroscale plates. I should point out that there is no combination of plates and ferroscale plates that returns your movement rate to the base rate.

Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 719	Posted - 2013.08.10 05:20:00 - [11] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: You can't fit 3 complex plates and 2 complex ferroscale plates on a suit. Too much CPU and PG. Also the OP is correct. This is a well known bug with the ferroscale plates. I should point out that there is no combination of plates and ferroscale plates that returns your movement rate to the base rate. Yes you can. And they shouldn't change it similar to the 3x armor reps till they fix armor tanking. THANKS CCP!! I get about 740 armor and 112 shield with my setup I just made. Duvolle, M1's, and 2 complex dps mods. the move speed sucks though. 4.26 6.26 sprint speed. and don't forget we get the lowest stamina.... To clarify though, I'd rather wear 2 complex ferroscale, a basic armor, one enhanced, and one complex. you get 650 armor 185 shields and 2 damage mods along with core locus, duvolle, and a proto hive....if making the gallente run assault is your desire. that ones moves at 4.51 and sprints at 6.62....still no stamina.
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 824	Posted - 2013.08.10 12:06:00 - [12] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I think it might be because the ferroscale has a speed reduction value of 0, meaning that it would be put into the module stacking penalty equation since it does still reduce your speed. By 0%. I thought that's what I said :p sad to find out is a bug. how do they not see this stuff :\ I never bothered to look because it says does not affect speed lol
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 825	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:35:00 - [13] - Quote bump , in case some other armor guys running around this fine saturday do not know about this. Don't want to miss out on it while it's still here!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1102	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:41:00 - [14] - Quote Yup, just a bug I'm afraid. You say you're a sad Gallente, does that mean you were ever happy?
Knightshade Belladonna Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 825	Posted - 2013.08.10 14:44:00 - [15] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Yup, just a bug I'm afraid. You say you're a sad Gallente, does that mean you were ever happy? good question.. Only when flying my Vindicator or Ishtar back to being a sad Gallente Merc


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