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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.08 23:36:00 -
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To unify Man in the name of God, and to ensure His word is spread to the furthest stars.... is what I might say....
The Matar are a chosen people, as dictated by God and the Empire, to fulfil the Empires Immortal destiny and also the destiny of the Matar. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.08 23:37:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:Another faction,is it bcause your coverment say "you are caldari,you have to fight against gallente" or you have to bcause you feel its your holy mission to do so.So what is your reason to fight another faction? And another question do you ever fight to help another faction, i mean gallente helping minmatar or ammarian helping caldari faction? And last question do you ever fight against your own faction or against your alliance faction? I do help the Minmatar against the Amarr. It is not right that they are enslaved.
Yet another ignorant Gallentean that does not understand what we do for the Matar. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.08 23:58:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:I'm a gallente who fights for the amarr because I like scrambler pistols. I like you |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.08.09 02:52:00 -
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Arc-08 wrote:the only reason i fight you treacherous Caldari, is because of the multitude, and magnitude of your terrorist attacks agaisnt the Gallente. I'm inspired by Orto Garushi (leader of ishukone corporation) because he wanted to end the war, but you evil Caldari killed him because he wasn't part of the dictatorship. I have always helped the Minmatar, and to prove my willingness to help them, i have skilled into their assault suits just so they know, i have their backs. And i will continue to fight the Amar for the fact that slavery is wrong, Amar if you would just give up slavery, and your constant obsession over relegion, i believe we could become great allies (possibly). That would destroy our very way of life. We are God's chosen people, and his divine mandate to us was to bring his word to the furthest stars or New Eden.
And the Lord spoke, and said, Lo, my people, Witness, for I have made the worlds of Heaven; And these worlds I give to you, My Chosen, So Amarr shall rule the worlds of the Heavens.
None shall stand higher than you save the Sefrim, Who serve Me as others shall serve you, For all things under Me serve one higher; So Amarr shall rule the worlds of the Heavens.
As Garrulor rules the skies; as Frisceas rules the sea; As Emperor rules Holder; as Holder rules Serf; Yet all under Heaven serve Me; So shall Amarr rule the worlds of the Heavens. - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 3.19 - 3.21
Slavery is a test. It tests the character of a people to see if they are worthy of becoming the chosen as well.
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 00:18:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:And adamance one more question if slavery is test to see if the people is chosen,how come you ammarians dont have to be slaves,are ammarians never been slaves if not,should you also put in test of slavery?
In our histories the Amarrian people suffered greatly during their time of Athra. As such we passed our divine test of Faith and God proclaimed us his Chosen.
"For forty millennia we struggled in the desert. Time of infinity to grief our misgivings. Time of eternity to stray without God's guidance. One can repent and pray for forgiveness. But true meekness is one that has penetrated and laid its roots in the very heart of a man. The stars above will not weep for us parting. The air we breathe won't notice our disappearance. The dirt of the earth will embrace our decadence.v Only in God can we thrive and grow. Only in God." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria 4:23
Our time suffering has passed, and we proved our Faith. Now we seek to ensure that the other peoples of New Eden know what it is to toil in God's name.
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
This is a truth, and that is why we take slaves. We seek to bring them closer to God so that they too may know of His love for them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 00:23:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Ok i have couple of questions,who rule all the land,and do us "heathens"has same god as you ammarians have,you say you are chosen people and you have devine right to rule and educate us lesser beings,so how long ammarians have tried this and how come they have not succeeded in this,is ammarian people`s faith and belive so weak that your maker don`t want rule the new eden.Why your maker diden`t help you against jove,is jove god stronger than yours?
The Jove to my knowledge do not have a unified Faith. So little is known about them that we can only speculate on what their culture may have been like.
The Amarrians have warred and sought to teach the unenlightened the ways for God for many millienia, our Faith has brought us this far, it is not weak, it is not lacking. It is cemented in the knowledge that we have an immortal destiny to achieve. It is the peoples of Athra who will Reclaim the star and unite humanity.
As to why our God has not aided us... all I can say is that it is not his way to do such things. We Amarr are his divine instruments in this universe, we Templars are his Avenging Angels, our citizens His flock, our ships his divine will. However as you say we have not yet achieved the destiny he set before us. You must remember that flesh is fallible, but Faith is not. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:28:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:A little more detailed, several thousand years ago the first Amarrians were exiled from the continent of Assimia on Athra, now known as Amarr Prime. They were sent to a harsh island where they suffered many hardships and labors. And from the Udorians and Khanid of Athra to the races of distant stars such as the Ni-Kunni, all Amarrian bloodlines can be traced back to slavery. I wouldn't exactly call our practice hypocritical. Difficult to explain? Yes, but at least we don't have problems of prejudice in our society. Correction, all but True Amarr. If you are say that there is no prejudice among the Amarr then you are dead in my eyes, for all you would be to me is a blind puppet for a race that has swindled its way into power by feeding off humanities hopes of faith.
Our faith is not some means to control the masses it is our strength of will, and what unifies us as a collective people. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 06:38:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Remember you know just that,what they want you to know.
They who? As I said before our Faith is not a tool for control. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:38:00 -
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Xavier Hastings wrote:True Adamance wrote:Xavier Hastings wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:Another faction,is it bcause your coverment say "you are caldari,you have to fight against gallente" or you have to bcause you feel its your holy mission to do so.So what is your reason to fight another faction? And another question do you ever fight to help another faction, i mean gallente helping minmatar or ammarian helping caldari faction? And last question do you ever fight against your own faction or against your alliance faction? I do help the Minmatar against the Amarr. It is not right that they are enslaved. Yet another ignorant Gallentean that does not understand what we do for the Matar. Spare me, Adamance! Do you truly think I do not know of your reasons? Your reasons of righteousness? Ha! In a nutshell, the Amarr enslave the Minmatar because the suffering they endure allow them to be "closer to God". Part of the "chosen'. This is true, is it not? True Adamance wrote:Slavery is a test. It tests the character of a people to see if they are worthy of becoming the chosen as well. You see, I do understand your reasons. But I also disagree. It is simply incomprehensible to enslave someone with the justification of religious belief. It is appalling. Absolutely appalling. Of course, you will point out how the "Minmatar are being discriminated against" in Gallentean society. This discrimination is inherently wrong, if this in in fact true. These are just reports, not facts. Of course, they are being investigated as we speak. Whether it be the Free Market at work, such as Private Businesses stating who they want in or out of their restaurants, or in fact Racial Discrimination, we will get to the bottom of this. And if it is racism, I assure you that it will be dealt with swiftly and surely.
Appalling? To seek unity, understanding, and peace for the children of God?
As for reports... nay sir these Matari refugees in the Federation have long been known to be discriminated against such is the insular nature the enthic Gallentean people have. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:47:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:Has the thought ever occurred that perhaps not everyone is meant to be unified? And I don't just mean the apostates. Could you ever consider the possibility that there can be those who are not compatible with unity, to be their own person, and have the right to live?
This is probably the very definition of blasphemy, but it sometimes best to let a thing be what it is. Let an apple be an apple, don't try to turn it into a mango because apples are against your religion. Those who are not willing to accept God's love, his laws, and the unity He would bring to the universe will be cleansed. This is a truth, there are no exceptions. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:53:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jedah McClintock wrote:Has the thought ever occurred that perhaps not everyone is meant to be unified? And I don't just mean the apostates. Could you ever consider the possibility that there can be those who are not compatible with unity, to be their own person, and have the right to live?
This is probably the very definition of blasphemy, but it sometimes best to let a thing be what it is. Let an apple be an apple, don't try to turn it into a mango because apples are against your religion. Those who are not willing to accept God's love, his laws, and the unity He would bring to the universe will be cleansed. This is a truth, there are no exceptions. What's he waiting for? Bring it. I'm right here. Smite my smug face.
We Amarr are his diving instruments under the heavens. Justice will be done unto you, but not by His divinity, but by His mandate.
"So the Lord sent forth the Chosen, to bring forth the light of faith And those who embrace his love Shall be saved by his grace For we are his shepherds in the darkness His Angels of Mercy. But those who turn away from his light, And reject his true word Shall be struck down by his wrath For we are his retribution incarnate His Angels of Vengeance" - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 4:45 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:57:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:This reminds me of the bozos who think that by exhorting what can be done through unity that everyone will instantly sign up under their banner. Though I have to admit the religion angle isn't a bad touch and you got prettier poetry than those losers with ambitions far beyond their ability. I have to ask from which Matari tribe do you hail? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.11 00:11:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:Vherokior, but my family was into piracy. I didn't care for that way of life and decided to separate myself from that. Hence changing my name to something you would never associate with a native of Matar.
Then I pity your tribe.
However and this will be of more interest to you. We have had recent increases from 17%-19% in the number of Vherikior converts at the three year mark.
God is good and has graced your people with the will power and knowledge to understand the universal truths. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.13 04:36:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:I fight the Ammar so that fewer of my fellow Minmatar will have to die in this horrible war. Every Ammarian I kill now is one less who will be there to shoot my brethren. The sooner it is over, the sooner we can become the great civilization we were meant to be.
Truth is I will work for anyone and any side as long as it either hurts the Ammar war effort, I don't consider it immoral, or doesn't help the Ammar directly. I have no qualms with the Ammar people, just the fanatics and slavers who claim they kill and enslave us in the name of a "benevolent" god. A War you started. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:43:00 -
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XANDER KAG wrote:True Adamance wrote: A War you started.
2 things: 1. The original war your government started when you invaded Minmatar space hundreds of years ago. 2. Our current war was started by the Elders a group you spend those hundreds of years trying to make us forget. They had no official support from our government at any time, in fact we did not even know they existed. They were only aided by a miniscule amount of our captains who went rogue and have all long since died in the war or been detained. I was not aware you were allowed to hold grudges?
Its not war if we seek it help your people. Its humanitarian effort. |
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