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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:47:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
Wish to be more like Cubs. A area denial is just another crutch scrubs way of trying to give it purpose. It still rewards you in 1v1 far more than any gun. It's the only gun that teaches it's users that you don't need to shoot the target you just need to keep shooting grenades in the area.
Its an AOE weapon, do you even understand the concept of AOE?? It means Area of Effect, no one goes into a game with a mass driver with the intentions of direct hitting everything. You should focus your tears on truely OP weapons like contact nades, AV nades or Forgeguns
A weapon that can kill 4 guys just as easily as it wins 1v4 I am sorry but that is OP if I ever heard of any OP weapon. It has absolutely NO drawbacks. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
809
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:52:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Sir Meode wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
Wish to be more like Cubs. A area denial is just another crutch scrubs way of trying to give it purpose. It still rewards you in 1v1 far more than any gun. It's the only gun that teaches it's users that you don't need to shoot the target you just need to keep shooting grenades in the area.
Its an AOE weapon, do you even understand the concept of AOE?? It means Area of Effect, no one goes into a game with a mass driver with the intentions of direct hitting everything. You should focus your tears on truely OP weapons like contact nades, AV nades or Forgeguns A weapon that can kill 4 guys just as easily as it wins 1v4 I am sorry but that is OP if I ever heard of any OP weapon. It has absolutely NO drawbacks.
It takes 4-5 rounds to kill with splash damge, you only get 6 in a clip. You only get 12 spare to reload with. You spend most of your time running from nanohive to nanohive, I would call that a drawback.
If your enemy is above you you're dead. massive drawback
If your enemy is 3-5m from you your going to be killing yourself if you're not carfull. massive drawback |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
65
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:54:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Your scientific approach lacks validity. One sample is not enough. Im sorry Xero. I was doing games like this all day yesterday I just didn't wanna flood 10 different pics if you like I can do it again and post 20 pics?
But two threads on the same topic is okay? Or dose your ego need that much stroking? |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:56:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Sir Meode wrote:mikegunnz wrote:Mass Driver: A weapon where you can literally miss with ALL your shots,and STILL kill the opponent.
LOL thats what a mass driver is designed for It's a gun that is designed to miss ALL your shots and still be a effective killer? Get real. There's a reason why your corp died. Rofl again you still have no valid argument. You're still ignoring that with the assault rifle you don't have to worry about the elevation, distance and the area. with the mass driver there's many things that come to place. Your ignoring the fact that the assault rifle still is more effective in all situations. I've people snipe with the AR, it's good for long range mid range and even cqc hip fire. but youre mad because a grenade launcher isnt design to be "direct damage" ha funny. So you're also ignoring that the fact that armor is under powered. It's not the mass driver faults. And yet your little post you did going 31-2 or whatever it was still doesn't prove shyt. Just proves that you're a pubstomper and I bet you used proto gear and mods lol. Okay. just stop crying its making you look so bad. And please don't say I look bad because I use the mass driver because I already shown everyone countless times that I'm speced into almost alll of the weapons in dust. Mass driver is just level 3. And now my new main is the nova knife. But again you're implying that it's a noob move to use the mass driver? Ha Okay, and um you don't miss all shots you dumb fk. You still have to aim. The grenades don't magically follow you, and the farther the range the harder unlike the assault rifle. Did I mentiom that it has slowed travel time and slow rof and low ammo. You have to rely on nano hives. Also everyone can outlive the ammo supply of the mass driver. So um yeah? You were saying |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
92
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:56:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:mikegunnz wrote:Mass Driver: A weapon where you can literally miss with ALL your shots, and STILL kill the opponent. And yet, it's defenders adamantly swear that its not OP. It's hilarious isn't it? These guys are the worst players in Dust and know once it's taken away they will have to latch onto a new FOTM. Actually, this isn't true some of them are using tactics (squad level) to beat you. I purposely run the Scrambler Rifle to strip the shield of our opponents, while my squad-mate then finishes them with the Mass Driver. Its not our fault that a lot of the player base expects their shields to save them, or are armor tanks.
We came up with the tactic to keep each other safe, and make up for the weaknesses of our chosen weapons. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:57:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Your scientific approach lacks validity. One sample is not enough. Im sorry Xero. I was doing games like this all day yesterday I just didn't wanna flood 10 different pics if you like I can do it again and post 20 pics? But two threads on the same topic is okay? Or dose your ego need that much stroking?
The point requires much attention is all. Crutches need to be taken away. Shooters should require skill. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:58:00 -
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Vin Mora wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:mikegunnz wrote:Mass Driver: A weapon where you can literally miss with ALL your shots, and STILL kill the opponent. And yet, it's defenders adamantly swear that its not OP. It's hilarious isn't it? These guys are the worst players in Dust and know once it's taken away they will have to latch onto a new FOTM. Actually, this isn't true some of them are using tactics (squad level) to beat you. I purposely run the Scrambler Rifle to strip the shield of our opponents, while my squad-mate then finishes them with the Mass Driver. Its not our fault that a lot of the player base expects their shields to save them, or are armor tanks. We came up with the tactic to keep each other safe, and make up for the weaknesses of our chosen weapons.
What you just said has nothing to do with the MD conversation. GO HOME! You're drunk! |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.08.08 15:59:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Sir Meode wrote:mikegunnz wrote:Mass Driver: A weapon where you can literally miss with ALL your shots,and STILL kill the opponent.
LOL thats what a mass driver is designed for It's a gun that is designed to miss ALL your shots and still be a effective killer? Get real. There's a reason why your corp died. Rofl again you still have no valid argument. You're still ignoring that with the assault rifle you don't have to worry about the elevation, distance and the area. with the mass driver there's many things that come to place. Your ignoring the fact that the assault rifle still is more effective in all situations. I've people snipe with the AR, it's good for long range mid range and even cqc hip fire. but youre mad because a grenade launcher isnt design to be "direct damage" ha funny. So you're also ignoring that the fact that armor is under powered. It's not the mass driver faults. And yet your little post you did going 31-2 or whatever it was still doesn't prove shyt. Just proves that you're a pubstomper and I bet you used proto gear and mods lol. Okay. just stop crying its making you look so bad. And please don't say I look bad because I use the mass driver because I already shown everyone countless times that I'm speced into almost alll of the weapons in dust. Mass driver is just level 3. And now my new main is the nova knife. But again you're implying that it's a noob move to use the mass driver? Ha Okay, and um you don't miss all shots you dumb fk. You still have to aim. The grenades don't magically follow you, and the farther the range the harder unlike the assault rifle. Did I mentiom that it has slowed travel time and slow rof and low ammo. You have to rely on nano hives. Also everyone can outlive the ammo supply of the mass driver. So um yeah? You were saying
With MD you don't have to worry about Elevation at all... I was destroying people 3v1 flat ground.... Try again mudalover! |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3527
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:01:00 -
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Time for change?
Yes we can?
Obama, is that you? |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
65
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:03:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Your scientific approach lacks validity. One sample is not enough. Im sorry Xero. I was doing games like this all day yesterday I just didn't wanna flood 10 different pics if you like I can do it again and post 20 pics? But two threads on the same topic is okay? Or dose your ego need that much stroking? The point requires much attention is all. Crutches need to be taken away. Shooters should require skill.
1 9 page thread along with all the others on forums inst attention enough? CCP collects kill data, if they see an unbalance the will fix it. They don't need you screaming like a petulant child to see something is wrong. Making the same tread two days in a row isnt going to accomplish anything when its going to be a couple of months until MD's could be tweaked anyway. |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:09:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Sir Meode wrote:mikegunnz wrote:Mass Driver: A weapon where you can literally miss with ALL your shots,and STILL kill the opponent.
LOL thats what a mass driver is designed for It's a gun that is designed to miss ALL your shots and still be a effective killer? Get real. There's a reason why your corp died. Rofl again you still have no valid argument. You're still ignoring that with the assault rifle you don't have to worry about the elevation, distance and the area. with the mass driver there's many things that come to place. Your ignoring the fact that the assault rifle still is more effective in all situations. I've people snipe with the AR, it's good for long range mid range and even cqc hip fire. but youre mad because a grenade launcher isnt design to be "direct damage" ha funny. So you're also ignoring that the fact that armor is under powered. It's not the mass driver faults. And yet your little post you did going 31-2 or whatever it was still doesn't prove shyt. Just proves that you're a pubstomper and I bet you used proto gear and mods lol. Okay. just stop crying its making you look so bad. And please don't say I look bad because I use the mass driver because I already shown everyone countless times that I'm speced into almost alll of the weapons in dust. Mass driver is just level 3. And now my new main is the nova knife. But again you're implying that it's a noob move to use the mass driver? Ha Okay, and um you don't miss all shots you dumb fk. You still have to aim. The grenades don't magically follow you, and the farther the range the harder unlike the assault rifle. Did I mentiom that it has slowed travel time and slow rof and low ammo. You have to rely on nano hives. Also everyone can outlive the ammo supply of the mass driver. So um yeah? You were saying With MD you don't have to worry about Elevation at all... I was destroying people 3v1 flat ground.... Try again mudalover! Flat around is easy. Lol but if you're lower than the red it'd harder. If you're higher it easier if where they are standing is leveled. Your agreement still blows and again you was going against randoms and you had a full squad. Put it this way a squad of assault rifle users and a mass driver can be deadly because the mass driver will finish them off. Support weapon or as I call it the kill stealing machine.
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
900
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:11:00 -
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It's a gun that is designed to miss ALL your shots and still be a effective killer? Get real. There's a reason why your corp died.[/quote] Rofl again you still have no valid argument. You're still ignoring that with the assault rifle you don't have to worry about the elevation, distance and the area. with the mass driver there's many things that come to place. Your ignoring the fact that the assault rifle still is more effective in all situations. I've people snipe with the AR, it's good for long range mid range and even cqc hip fire. but youre mad because a grenade launcher isnt design to be "direct damage" ha funny. So you're also ignoring that the fact that armor is under powered. It's not the mass driver faults. And yet your little post you did going 31-2 or whatever it was still doesn't prove shyt. Just proves that you're a pubstomper and I bet you used proto gear and mods lol. Okay. just stop crying its making you look so bad. And please don't say I look bad because I use the mass driver because I already shown everyone countless times that I'm speced into almost alll of the weapons in dust. Mass driver is just level 3. And now my new main is the nova knife. But again you're implying that it's a noob move to use the mass driver? Ha Okay, and um you don't miss all shots you dumb fk. You still have to aim. The grenades don't magically follow you, and the farther the range the harder unlike the assault rifle. Did I mentiom that it has slowed travel time and slow rof and low ammo. You have to rely on nano hives. Also everyone can outlive the ammo supply of the mass driver. So um yeah? You were saying[/quote]
With MD you don't have to worry about Elevation at all... I was destroying people 3v1 flat ground.... Try again mudalover![/quote] Flat around is easy. Lol but if you're lower than the red it'd harder. If you're higher it easier if where they are standing is leveled. Your agreement still blows and again you was going against randoms and you had a full squad. Put it this way a squad of assault rifle users and a mass driver can be deadly because the mass driver will finish them off. Support weapon or as I call it the kill stealing machine. [/quote]
Face it. Your weapon of choice is so easy. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
0uter.Heaven EoN.
275
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:11:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Your scientific approach lacks validity. One sample is not enough. Im sorry Xero. I was doing games like this all day yesterday I just didn't wanna flood 10 different pics if you like I can do it again and post 20 pics? But two threads on the same topic is okay? Or dose your ego need that much stroking? The point requires much attention is all. Crutches need to be taken away. Shooters should require skill. 1 9 page thread along with all the others on forums inst attention enough? CCP collects kill data, if they see an unbalance the will fix it. They don't need you screaming like a petulant child to see something is wrong. Making the same tread two days in a row isnt going to accomplish anything when its going to be a couple of months until MD's could be tweaked anyway.
Um, well I think it's kind of the community's fault for giving him so much attention (that he clearly so deeply desires). Commonly referred to as 'feeding the troll'. I know I'm not really practicing that by posting this, but it'd probably be best if we just let his threads die (but then again, he relentlessly self bumps). |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:16:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
It's a gun that is designed to miss ALL your shots and still be a effective killer? Get real. There's a reason why your corp died.
Rofl again you still have no valid argument. You're still ignoring that with the assault rifle you don't have to worry about the elevation, distance and the area. with the mass driver there's many things that come to place. Your ignoring the fact that the assault rifle still is more effective in all situations. I've people snipe with the AR, it's good for long range mid range and even cqc hip fire. but youre mad because a grenade launcher isnt design to be "direct damage" ha funny. So you're also ignoring that the fact that armor is under powered. It's not the mass driver faults. And yet your little post you did going 31-2 or whatever it was still doesn't prove shyt. Just proves that you're a pubstomper and I bet you used proto gear and mods lol. Okay. just stop crying its making you look so bad. And please don't say I look bad because I use the mass driver because I already shown everyone countless times that I'm speced into almost alll of the weapons in dust. Mass driver is just level 3. And now my new main is the nova knife. But again you're implying that it's a noob move to use the mass driver? Ha Okay, and um you don't miss all shots you dumb fk. You still have to aim. The grenades don't magically follow you, and the farther the range the harder unlike the assault rifle. Did I mentiom that it has slowed travel time and slow rof and low ammo. You have to rely on nano hives. Also everyone can outlive the ammo supply of the mass driver. So um yeah? You were saying[/quote]
With MD you don't have to worry about Elevation at all... I was destroying people 3v1 flat ground.... Try again mudalover![/quote] Flat around is easy. Lol but if you're lower than the red it'd harder. If you're higher it easier if where they are standing is leveled. Your agreement still blows and again you was going against randoms and you had a full squad. Put it this way a squad of assault rifle users and a mass driver can be deadly because the mass driver will finish them off. Support weapon or as I call it the kill stealing machine. [/quote] Your quote is broken.... And elevation doesn't matter? Lawl ignorant fool. Try taking someone out that's on a hill sniping you with his assault rifle. Please your just a attention wh'ore that died to many times because you decided to stand still while shooting.
Face it. Your weapon of choice is so easy.[/quote]
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
584
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:21:00 -
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Jesus, Xero. I'm withholding my personal opinion on the matter at hand, not enough MD experience, but you absolutely do not sprinkle any and all attempts at refutation and discourse with ad hominem if you want the majority (and the people you're actually trying to convince) to take you seriously. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
903
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:24:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:And elevation doesn't matter? Lawl ignorant fool. Try taking someone out that's on a hill sniping you with his assault rifle. Please your just a attention wh'ore that died to many times because you decided to stand still while shooting
And my weapon if choice is easy? Ha. This coming from a assault rifle user. Guess what I also use the nova knife. Is that easy as well?
If the enemy is at elevation why would you waist you time on him? It's clear that with your gun you can't do anything avoiding ONE guy and leaving him for a teammate is not something worth trying to use as a defense. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:27:00 -
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He just fails. He tried showing off that he went 31- 2 with he md but yet he had a whole sqaud vs randoms. Nova corp which usee scouts lol. I bet most of his kills were stolen |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
115
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:28:00 -
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I have never ran a fully dispersion-damped, proficiency-amped duvolle. Were i to pubstomp with a full squad and then post pics to "prove" it is easy -mode me thinks you would be just as defensive as these guys... |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
903
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:31:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:I have never ran a fully dispersion-damped, proficiency-amped duvolle. Were i to pubstomp with a full squad and then post pics to "prove" it is easy -mode me thinks you would be just as defensive as these guys...
No troll aside. Nomatter what I do they will still defend it. They won't admit that it's a easy gun to use. Even if I run solo and have good games, they will always bring up some more hurdles. Well maybe you were camping, maybe you avoided the good players. If I had record equipment and got video. Well maybe it was edited. It will ALWAYS be something. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:32:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:And elevation doesn't matter? Lawl ignorant fool. Try taking someone out that's on a hill sniping you with his assault rifle. Please your just a attention who've that died to many times because you decided to stand still while shooting
And my weapon if choice is easy? Ha. This coming from a assault rifle user. Guess what I also use the nova knife. Is that easy as well? If the enemy is at elevation why would you waist you time on him? It's clear that with your gun you can't do anything avoiding ONE guy and leaving him for a teammate is not something worth trying to use as a defense. Same with the mass driver. Instead of staying still like a dumb azz MOVE or double team him but don't run in a pack. Because if u see people coming at me in a group me or someone will throw a flux. while assault rifle users pick off most of their health and I'll finish them off. It's called tatcis just saying |
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2013.08.08 16:36:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:pseudosnipre wrote:I have never ran a fully dispersion-damped, proficiency-amped duvolle. Were i to pubstomp with a full squad and then post pics to "prove" it is easy -mode me thinks you would be just as defensive as these guys... No troll aside. Nomatter what I do they will still defend it. They won't admit that it's a easy gun to use. Even if I run solo and have good games, they will always bring up some more hurdles. Well maybe you were camping, maybe you avoided the good players. If I had record equipment and got video. Well maybe it was edited. It will ALWAYS be something. So if your only defense is "its a easy gun to use" that itself says that the assault rifle is also OP BECAUSE ITS THE EASIEST GUN IN THE GAME. YOU IGNORANT FK. THE ASSAULT RIFLE HAS MORE ADVANTAGES THAN MOST GUNS IN THE GAME ANS YET YOU CRY ABOUT ONE THAT WAA RECENTLY FIXED.... fail |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
131
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:53:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6fVHZFjnmAThis is an Extra Credits video about balancing for skill. It really touches on the points you're trying to make. I don't particularly agree with you, but there certainly is a need for a sort of "noob tube" weapon in Dust. If the MD was that, then the game should really point players in that direction. Not just let them incidentally drift towards it. ^^^^^^ This would solve so much, but no the mass driver isnt a noob tube which is why so many players follow the next OP weapon. There is no way for some one who is new to complete with vets.
I dont think the mass driver is OP because i have done decent at times and very horrible at others and unbelievable a few games but that is with every weapon. I am not ai good player and i find the mass driver difficult to use at moments so i doubt it is the easy win weapon some people like to say it is. i just think the reason so many people use mass drivers is because they are currently one of the few weapons that are effective right now let alone capable of surviving against a AR. No offense to the AR users but that and the assault scrambler rifle are the best weapons in the game.
i write this calmly and with a open mind but sadly somebody is just going to read this and say something like "get good, GTFO" or post that they died 10 times to a mass driver so it is OP.
off topic but forge guns arent OP..... coming from a dropship pilot and not even that great. |
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